2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[Aclion]

What do the cops carry which classifies as a machine gun?

cops get fun buttons on their ar15s :c

[Helwys]

Trump is not a supporter of the Ku Klux Klan, lol.

He just says there are some very fine people in it...

Video evidence or it didn't happen.

[Celritannia]

I think the police would have less work on their hands once the citizenry take action with machine guns.

You mean like that woman I saw who took it on herself to “stop” a shop lifter (food) and emptied her gun in a parking lot as he fled in his car? Luckily she didn’t hit anybody. Now if she had a machine gun......

Or the 7 year old child at a shooting range with an Uzi.

[Greater Miami Shores]

He just says there are some very fine people in it...

Video evidence or it didn't happen.

I have heard say it did not happen.

[Wizlandia]

In regards to the poll on who wins the debates,

50/50 between Harris and Pence on winning the VP debate.

I think Biden has a significant advantage over Trump in the presidential debate. He's shown well in the 1v1 no live audience style debate against Bernie, and I think Trump sounds a lot less funny and a lot more deranged the last year or two than he did in 2016. Plus the lack of a live audience will hurt Trump.

I'll say Biden/Harris 3 - 1 Trump/Pence.

As for the general election, I think its 70% chance of Biden win, 30% chance of Trump win. The polls are much more unfavourable towards Trump this time round than in 2016; Biden is nowhere near as hated as Hillary was.

[Northern Davincia]

I think the police would have less work on their hands once the citizenry take action with machine guns.

You mean like that woman I saw who took it on herself to “stop” a shop lifter (food) and emptied her gun in a parking lot as he fled in his car? Luckily she didn’t hit anybody. Now if she had a machine gun......

I don't think I need to mention my stances on property rights, and the defense thereof. A point can be made if the woman did not own the shop or work there.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Think of it in another way. If the civilians get free access to machine guns; then the police would have to start carrying them.

Makes you wonder how many casualties there would have been in the Brianna Taylor case.....

I think the police would have less work on their hands once the citizenry take action with machine guns.

You may be anti-abortion but you are NOT pro-life.

You're in favor of innocent civilians dying when gun owners up their firepower with weapons intended to kill multiple people without having to aim carefully. Or maybe that's their fault for living in a city?

I bet Ron Paul was for unlimited guns too. A fucking doctor in favor of more death! I maybe understated it when I said he was "crazy", that doesn't properly describe his malign ideology.

[San Lumen]

It will not.

Well, the polling there is still really close.

It is. There is a chance Biden wins it but wouldn’t bet on it.

[Northern Davincia]

I think the police would have less work on their hands once the citizenry take action with machine guns.

You may be anti-abortion but you are NOT pro-life.

You're in favor of innocent civilians dying when gun owners up their firepower with weapons intended to kill multiple people without having to aim carefully. Or maybe that's their fault for living in a city?

I bet Ron Paul was for unlimited guns too. A fucking doctor in favor of more death! I maybe understated it when I said he was "crazy", that doesn't properly describe his malign ideology.

I am pro-life in the sense that I believe innocent life should be protected, especially those of children. Should a deranged individual use a gun, I intend for the people to shoot back.
It is absurd to believe that an armed populace is synonymous with murder.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

You mean like that woman I saw who took it on herself to “stop” a shop lifter (food) and emptied her gun in a parking lot as he fled in his car? Luckily she didn’t hit anybody. Now if she had a machine gun......

I don't think I need to mention my stances on property rights, and the defense thereof. A point can be made if the woman did not own the shop or work there.

Well at least. If the woman trusted her own judgement to know crime was in progress, and fired multiple times to "defend property" that wasn't even hers, and she had no authority from the owner to protect, you'd agree that she was attempting murder?

Or did she cross that line when she shot at someone who had completed the crime and was only trying to escape?

[West Leas Oros 2]

You may be anti-abortion but you are NOT pro-life.

You're in favor of innocent civilians dying when gun owners up their firepower with weapons intended to kill multiple people without having to aim carefully. Or maybe that's their fault for living in a city?

I bet Ron Paul was for unlimited guns too. A fucking doctor in favor of more death! I maybe understated it when I said he was "crazy", that doesn't properly describe his malign ideology.

I am pro-life in the sense that I believe innocent life should be protected, especially those of children. Should a deranged individual use a gun, I intend for the people to shoot back.
It is absurd to believe that an armed populace is synonymous with murder.

*strokes mustache* An armed populace is synonymous with class consciousness. Seize the munitions of production.

[Kowani]

Rick Scott proposes bill requiring states to only count all ballots within 48 hours after the polls close.

[Northern Davincia]

I don't think I need to mention my stances on property rights, and the defense thereof. A point can be made if the woman did not own the shop or work there.

Well at least. If the woman trusted her own judgement to know crime was in progress, and fired multiple times to "defend property" that wasn't even hers, and she had no authority from the owner to protect, you'd agree that she was attempting murder?

Or did she cross that line when she shot at someone who had completed the crime and was only trying to escape?

I could agree that the woman's actions were not ideal. However, I have never understood the purpose of letting a criminal escape after they have done the deed.
I have also never understood the obligation to retreat.

[The Black Forrest]

You mean like that woman I saw who took it on herself to “stop” a shop lifter (food) and emptied her gun in a parking lot as he fled in his car? Luckily she didn’t hit anybody. Now if she had a machine gun......

I don't think I need to mention my stances on property rights, and the defense thereof. A point can be made if the woman did not own the shop or work there.

It wasn’t her property. she was just passing by.

People get stupid when they think they have the upper hand. There is also the problem of thugs with guns. Such as the bitch who threatened my mother with a gun. She is 4’11 and looks like the wind would blow her over.

[Northern Davincia]

I don't think I need to mention my stances on property rights, and the defense thereof. A point can be made if the woman did not own the shop or work there.

It wasn’t her property. she was just passing by.

People get stupid when they think they have the upper hand. There is also the problem of thugs with guns. Such as the bitch who threatened my mother with a gun. She is 4’11 and looks like the wind would blow her over.

The stupidity of our fellow man is exactly why I prefer to be armed.

[The Black Forrest]

It wasn’t her property. she was just passing by.

People get stupid when they think they have the upper hand. There is also the problem of thugs with guns. Such as the bitch who threatened my mother with a gun. She is 4’11 and looks like the wind would blow her over.

The stupidity of our fellow man is exactly why I prefer to be armed.

The problem with your view? It arms the stupid man.

[The Black Forrest]

Rick Scott proposes bill requiring states to only count all ballots within 48 hours after the polls close.

*flush*

[Rusozak]

The stupidity of our fellow man is exactly why I prefer to be armed.

The problem with your view? It arms the stupid man.

Arm everyone! Mutually assured destruction, coming soon to a sidewalk near you.

[West Leas Oros 2]

The stupidity of our fellow man is exactly why I prefer to be armed.

The problem with your view? It arms the stupid man.

Worse. It arms the stupid, but not the smart.

[Northern Davincia]

The stupidity of our fellow man is exactly why I prefer to be armed.

The problem with your view? It arms the stupid man.

And democracy lets him vote, which is much more dangerous. I will take my chances with his gun.

[West Leas Oros 2]

The problem with your view? It arms the stupid man.

And democracy lets him vote, which is much more dangerous. I will take my chances with his gun.

Ah yes, libertarians hate democracy, don’t they... wait.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

You may be anti-abortion but you are NOT pro-life.

You're in favor of innocent civilians dying when gun owners up their firepower with weapons intended to kill multiple people without having to aim carefully. Or maybe that's their fault for living in a city?

I bet Ron Paul was for unlimited guns too. A fucking doctor in favor of more death! I maybe understated it when I said he was "crazy", that doesn't properly describe his malign ideology.

I am pro-life in the sense that I believe innocent life should be protected, especially those of children. Should a deranged individual use a gun, I intend for the people to shoot back.
It is absurd to believe that an armed populace is synonymous with murder.

Machine guns are far more likely to kill or injure an innocent in the back range. Throwing a lot of bullets quickly makes "sweeping" over the target a viable way of hitting them, when you don't have time to aim properly (which will be pretty much always if you're firing in self-defense). Obviously that poses a risk to others, in a suburb or city.

The people who currently own machine guns, I'm guessing, do not go for the machine gun when they need a weapon for self-defense. Probably mostly, because only a responsible gun owner or a hard-core criminal would spend that much on a gun. But repeal the Hughes act and a lot more people would be getting a machine-gun specifically for self-defence. And if they have to use them, simply not having the time to check there are no innocents behind their intended target.

The Hughes act IS protecting innocent life, including lives of children. But you want to get rid of it, only because you think a machine-gun would be more effective to protect YOUR OWN life. That's quite hypocritical. You have taken on board a pro-gun position that is actually incompatible with your fundamental principle that innocent life should be protected. You really need to rethink that.

At least admit you went too far in saying there would be less work for the police. Citizens gunning down criminals they "catch in the act", so government is spared the expense of trial and imprisonment, is absolutely contrary to "pro life".

[The Black Forrest]

The problem with your view? It arms the stupid man.

And democracy lets him vote, which is much more dangerous. I will take my chances with his gun.

Hmmm? The odds of you dying by the stupid man voting.....

Poor argument dude.

[Washington Resistance Army]

But repeal the Hughes act and a lot more people would be getting a machine-gun specifically for self-defence. And if they have to use them, simply not having the time to check there are no innocents behind their intended target.

Almost certainly not, no. They'd still be NFA items and it's standard procedure to tell newbies to avoid using these things for self defense because even if it's justified they're scary to the common folk and a DA will happily try to crucify you for it. There's only been a handful of times it's ever happened.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

The problem with your view? It arms the stupid man.

And democracy lets him vote, which is much more dangerous. I will take my chances with his gun.

The power of a vote is infinitesimal. That you think it is dangerous (to you?) just boggles the mind.