2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[The Black Forrest]

Ok. A challenge to both of you. Log what he has done right.

I cant speak for the other fellow nation, it is not one of my nations,

I have already done so many times, which you all dismiss anyway, and it is not just with me. This is a private back and forth between us. But it is a public one, and you are more than welcomed to quote it, as it is your right to do so and you just did. I have already answered those questions more than a few times on NS. It is my right to not answer any questions I wish, just as the questions I asked you and you have not answered.

1 - Are you always biased?
2 - Have you ever been biased?
3 - Are you always unbiased?

Here is a link to my interesting regional poll opened to all nations, related to this thread, Trump, Biden the elections the Democrats and the Republicans, I know I can share.

You are all welcomed to vote if you wish, if not I cant force you.

18 Persons so far have voted on it, more than I expected, Please read the OP introduction Post first.
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... ami_shores

The sad thing. I already expected a non-answer from you.

It was really simple. You only had to list out what you think trump did that was good.

You couldn’t.

It only makes you look rather pathetic. Just saying......

[The Black Forrest]

Hmmm. Not going to worry about as it will take an amendment.

Term limits aren’t going to solve the problem.

Actually it might not. The constitution doesn’t explicitly say that judges have to serve for life and besides it wouldn’t apply to any justice currently on the bench.

It’s been pretty much agreed it’s a lifetime deal. It makes sense as you really don’t owe anybody anything after you are appointed.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Non-American here:

I was originally pro Trump because I thought “Here’s someone who could shake up the system and political class of career politicians, here’s someone who goes against PC. If someone like a Trump can win, that’s an inspiration for every day Joes to achieve great things with their lives, excel, and do amazing things.”

Fast forward to 2020:

He’s excessively anti-Chinese; he tries to undermine HK’s economy with sanctions that will hurt the HK people to “support the HK people.” This whole Blame China for the virus situation in the USA Is absolutely pathetic.

Also, he has the commissions look into investigating/possibly banning League of Legends (threatening the majority of the NA Server), affecting millions of players.

Every day I turn on the TV or watch the news I have to see this guy (or Pompeo) make some anti-Chinese posturing.

...

So with all of this said.

Biden.

It’s time for Biden to win.

He may continue the anti-Chinese policies but I think he’ll at least be more classy about it and also have the sense not to go after video games.

I’ve already convinced my brother and his group of friends from Silicon Valley to go Biden.

Don’t tell me you actually like the Chinese Communists

They are no different from the National Socialist Worker’s Party of Germany at this point, with the sterilization of the Uyghur people and the concentration camps, not to mention during the cultural revolution, their people "killed people for fun," according to my grandfather who was a survivor and fled to the US.

Nothing makes me angrier than people (usually leftists, but anti-American right wingers as well) say they support China just because "it’s a better alternative to America"

[Kexholm Karelia]

Non-American here:

I was originally pro Trump because I thought “Here’s someone who could shake up the system and political class of career politicians, here’s someone who goes against PC. If someone like a Trump can win, that’s an inspiration for every day Joes to achieve great things with their lives, excel, and do amazing things.”

Fast forward to 2020:

He’s excessively anti-Chinese; he tries to undermine HK’s economy with sanctions that will hurt the HK people to “support the HK people.” This whole Blame China for the virus situation in the USA Is absolutely pathetic.

Also, he has the gaming commissions look into investigating/possibly banning League of Legends (threatening the majority of the NA Server), affecting millions of players.

Every day I turn on the TV or watch the news I have to see this guy (or Pompeo) make some anti-Chinese posturing.

...

So with all of this said.

Biden.

It’s time for Biden to win.

He may continue the anti-Chinese policies but I think he’ll at least be more classy about it and also have the sense not to go after video games.

I’ve already convinced my brother and his group of friends from Silicon Valley to go Biden.

For once we are in agreement. Hopefully you convinced them to vote blue all the way downballot.

You agree that the Chinese Communists are good?

[The Black Forrest]

Honest to God because the number is so low, and that so many bad things have happened, I literally cannot remembered those three good things I actually approved of. Something involving a foreign deal, one with the military, and something about China - I think.

His EO on rent and forcing Medicare/Medicaid to buy drugs at the same rates as the Europeans do are two good things he’s done

The question is was it followed through. He promised lower drug prices and that fell apart after he expected the pharmis to give out 100$ Trump cards to the seniors.

[The Black Forrest]

Honestly, if Trump wins he'll essentially just be golfing all day from then on, his only real focus has been on gaining re-election and dismantling anything Obama did. If the Senate essentially ties he's a lame duck president with nothing to fight for other than his handicap.

He won't care about China or anything else.

China gave him a great deal of money. Of course he will over look many things.

[Rusozak]

Non-American here:

I was originally pro Trump because I thought “Here’s someone who could shake up the system and political class of career politicians, here’s someone who goes against PC. If someone like a Trump can win, that’s an inspiration for every day Joes to achieve great things with their lives, excel, and do amazing things.”

Fast forward to 2020:

He’s excessively anti-Chinese; he tries to undermine HK’s economy with sanctions that will hurt the HK people to “support the HK people.” This whole Blame China for the virus situation in the USA Is absolutely pathetic.

Also, he has the commissions look into investigating/possibly banning League of Legends (threatening the majority of the NA Server), affecting millions of players.

Every day I turn on the TV or watch the news I have to see this guy (or Pompeo) make some anti-Chinese posturing.

...

So with all of this said.

Biden.

It’s time for Biden to win.

He may continue the anti-Chinese policies but I think he’ll at least be more classy about it and also have the sense not to go after video games.

I’ve already convinced my brother and his group of friends from Silicon Valley to go Biden.

Don’t tell me you actually like the Chinese Communists

They are no different from the National Socialist Worker’s Party of Germany at this point, with the sterilization of the Uyghur people and the concentration camps, not to mention during the cultural revolution, their people "killed people for fun," according to my grandfather who was a survivor and fled to the US.

Nothing makes me angrier than people (usually leftists, but anti-American right wingers as well) say they support China just because "it’s a better alternative to America"

You're awfully misguided if anti-China is one of your main points for backing Trump. Trump is hardly an enemy of China. He's had numerous personal business investments in the country, and until it became election year the Trump administration has quietly played right into Xi's hands, and even gone as far to praise China.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Don’t tell me you actually like the Chinese Communists

They are no different from the National Socialist Worker’s Party of Germany at this point, with the sterilization of the Uyghur people and the concentration camps, not to mention during the cultural revolution, their people "killed people for fun," according to my grandfather who was a survivor and fled to the US.

Nothing makes me angrier than people (usually leftists, but anti-American right wingers as well) say they support China just because "it’s a better alternative to America"

You're awfully misguided if anti-China is one of your main points for backing Trump. Trump is hardly an enemy of China. He's had numerous personal business investments in the country, and until it became election year the Trump administration has quietly played right into Xi's hands, and even gone as far to praise China.

He doesn't wanna come to grips with the fact that not only did his vote not stop china, it actually weakened the United States, which helps China.

[Greater Miami Shores]

You're awfully misguided if anti-China is one of your main points for backing Trump. Trump is hardly an enemy of China. He's had numerous personal business investments in the country, and until it became election year the Trump administration has quietly played right into Xi's hands, and even gone as far to praise China.

He doesn't wanna come to grips with the fact that not only did his vote not stop china, it actually weakened the United States, which helps China.

Republican President Trump on Russia, China and Taiwan, which I call Taiwan China, the one and only True China:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... uxbndlbing
and you guys are so Pro USA, USA, USA on your posts, lol. I should be having a lol attack,

[Xmara]

So, the fact that Trump is not conceding to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses is very alarming. If he loses and chooses not to leave the White House, what will happen then? Court battles? Actual battles?

[Geneviev]

So, the fact that Trump is not conceding to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses is very alarming. If he loses and chooses not to leave the White House, what will happen then? Court battles? Actual battles?

I would expect court battles. Actual battles are pretty unlikely.

[Bombadil]

So, the fact that Trump is not conceding to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses is very alarming. If he loses and chooses not to leave the White House, what will happen then? Court battles? Actual battles?

There will absolutely be a court battle..

“I can assure you it will be peaceful. Now we may have litigation about who won the election, but the [supreme] court will decide and if the Republicans lose, we will accept that result. But we need a full court.”

In Lindsay Graham language that means 'we need to get the Supreme Court position filled to decide the case in our favour'.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

So, the fact that Trump is not conceding to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses is very alarming. If he loses and chooses not to leave the White House, what will happen then? Court battles? Actual battles?

Riots, maybe terrorist attacks too.

[Rusozak]

So, the fact that Trump is not conceding to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses is very alarming. If he loses and chooses not to leave the White House, what will happen then? Court battles? Actual battles?

I would expect court battles. Actual battles are pretty unlikely.

Would there even be that much? I mean, there isn't even anything to contest other than the election results. I'm imagining on Inauguration day he'll be ordering the secret service to keep Biden out and they'll promise to remove the tresspasser from the White House and start dragging Trump out of the office much to his own confusion.

[Bombadil]

One thing I've learned during this administration is that with a compliant Senate at his side a president can do whatever the fuck he wants.

[Xmara]

So, the fact that Trump is not conceding to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses is very alarming. If he loses and chooses not to leave the White House, what will happen then? Court battles? Actual battles?

There will absolutely be a court battle..

“I can assure you it will be peaceful. Now we may have litigation about who won the election, but the [supreme] court will decide and if the Republicans lose, we will accept that result. But we need a full court.”

In Lindsay Graham language that means 'we need to get the Supreme Court position filled to decide the case in our favour'.

It’s honestly hypocritical that they’re trying to fill the Supreme Court vacancy less than two months before the election. Because I remember when they freaked out when Obama tried to replace Scalia like 6+ months before the 2016 election.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

So, the fact that Trump is not conceding to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses is very alarming. If he loses and chooses not to leave the White House, what will happen then? Court battles? Actual battles?

I would expect court battles. Actual battles are pretty unlikely.

You really think Trump going onstage and yelling "they stole the election" to a crowd full of guys with guns and camouflage isnt gonna cause violence?

[Xmara]

I would expect court battles. Actual battles are pretty unlikely.

You really think Trump going onstage and yelling "they stole the election" to a crowd full of guys with guns and camouflage isnt gonna cause violence?

I mean, I can definitely see that happening, especially with the growing number of QAnon supporters who practically worship him.

[Greater Miami Shores]

So, the fact that Trump is not conceding to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses is very alarming. If he loses and chooses not to leave the White House, what will happen then? Court battles? Actual battles?

I saw the article or an article on that, President Trump did not say that, it is a perfect leftist spin in this case.

What President Trump means he is concerned of leftist Liberal Democrat voter fraud with mail in ballots and other dirty political tricks, the Democratic Party is capable of, I said capable of not actual as in will do.

For the record, I have also stated many times, the Republican Party plays politics, The Democratic Party plays politics too, neither are political saints.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... -dhp-feeds

Either that and or, he is I think, baiting and trolling you Pro Leftist Liberal Democrats and Biden supporters, and you guys are falling for it, as a I posted earlier.

[Bombadil]

There will absolutely be a court battle..

“I can assure you it will be peaceful. Now we may have litigation about who won the election, but the [supreme] court will decide and if the Republicans lose, we will accept that result. But we need a full court.”

In Lindsay Graham language that means 'we need to get the Supreme Court position filled to decide the case in our favour'.

It’s honestly hypocritical that they’re trying to fill the Supreme Court vacancy less than two months before the election. Because I remember when they freaked out when Obama tried to replace Scalia like 6+ months before the 2016 election.

I mean, technically, I'm fine with it, a sitting president should be able to fill a seat, they have a 4 year term and whatever falls within that term is theirs to own.. however that means Obama should have been able to put Garland forward. That was a fucking travesty. I saw a documentary on how McConnell saw what happened with.. amm.. the one who wasn't confirmed back in the early 90's and vowed it would never happen again. The Supreme Court is a personal crusade for him.

[Rusozak]

It’s honestly hypocritical that they’re trying to fill the Supreme Court vacancy less than two months before the election. Because I remember when they freaked out when Obama tried to replace Scalia like 6+ months before the 2016 election.

I mean, technically, I'm fine with it, a sitting president should be able to fill a seat, they have a 4 year term and whatever falls within that term is theirs to own.. however that means Obama should have been able to put Garland forward. That was a fucking travesty. I saw a documentary on how McConnell saw what happened with.. amm.. the one who wasn't confirmed back in the early 90's and vowed it would never happen again. The Supreme Court is a personal crusade for him.

I could at least respect if they were consistent. But the argument changes with whether they serve to benefit. Congress is spinelessly morally bankrupt.

[Geneviev]

I would expect court battles. Actual battles are pretty unlikely.

Would there even be that much? I mean, there isn't even anything to contest other than the election results. I'm imagining on Inauguration day he'll be ordering the secret service to keep Biden out and they'll promise to remove the tresspasser from the White House and start dragging Trump out of the office much to his own confusion.

The election will probably be decided by the courts.

I would expect court battles. Actual battles are pretty unlikely.

You really think Trump going onstage and yelling "they stole the election" to a crowd full of guys with guns and camouflage isnt gonna cause violence?

Maybe, although I definitely hope not. But it wouldn't go so far as to be a battle.

[Bombadil]

So, the fact that Trump is not conceding to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses is very alarming. If he loses and chooses not to leave the White House, what will happen then? Court battles? Actual battles?

I saw the article or an article on that, President Trump did not say that, it is a perfect leftist spin in this case.

He basically did, the only way he wins is if mail in votes are not counted, and he's said they're fraudulent with zero evidence whatsoever. Given he's already stated this then he certainly won't concede to a peaceful transfer.

So he's created the parameters around which he would not concede and they're set, he won't concede.

[Greater Miami Shores]

It’s honestly hypocritical that they’re trying to fill the Supreme Court vacancy less than two months before the election. Because I remember when they freaked out when Obama tried to replace Scalia like 6+ months before the 2016 election.

I mean, technically, I'm fine with it, a sitting president should be able to fill a seat, they have a 4 year term and whatever falls within that term is theirs to own.. however that means Obama should have been able to put Garland forward. That was a fucking travesty. I saw a documentary on how McConnell saw what happened with.. amm.. the one who wasn't confirmed back in the early 90's and vowed it would never happen again. The Supreme Court is a personal crusade for him.

The Democrats would do it too, if it wear a Hillary President.

[Bombadil]

I mean, technically, I'm fine with it, a sitting president should be able to fill a seat, they have a 4 year term and whatever falls within that term is theirs to own.. however that means Obama should have been able to put Garland forward. That was a fucking travesty. I saw a documentary on how McConnell saw what happened with.. amm.. the one who wasn't confirmed back in the early 90's and vowed it would never happen again. The Supreme Court is a personal crusade for him.

The Democrats would do it too, if it wear a Hillary President.

..and they'd have every right to, the Republicans stated that the precedent was set in 2016, no appointments in the final term, Lindsay Graham said if they tried the Democrats could use his words that this was now precedent against him.

Turns out he doesn't give a flying fuck what he said in 2016.