2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[No State Here]

I think the number is exaggerated. Many libertarians are falsely labeled as auth-right once they become skeptical of democracy, but then they just join the ranks of Ancaps.

Probably not given the amount of dictator worship among many right "libertarians".

Higher than Castro and Chavez apologists among self proclaimed libsocs?

Not trying to go for a tu quoque, but both sides have closet authoritarians pretending to be libs. Many times they say the silent part out loud

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... rump-rally

Crowd chants lock her up about Whitmer at Trump's rally in Michigan and the President says lock them all up. He is openly encouraging violence by his supporters and he did nothing to tell them that was inappropriate. I hope he and the Republicans lose in a absolute blowout.

[Arlenton]

http://stpetepolls.org/files/StPetePolls_2020_Hillsborough_October16_L4BSI.pdf

Biden leafs 53-44 in Hillsborough county, Florida. Tampa is the county seat.

That's a 9 point margin. Clinton won it by a 7 point margin in 2016, so that's an improvement for Biden, but both Gillum and Nelson won Hillsborough by 9% in 2018 yet still lost the state. Looks like Florida will go down to the wire, as usual.


Also there needs to be more county polls. I don't see them very often, yet I think they are very useful, even more so than statewide polls.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521563-crowd-chants-lock-her-up-about-whitmer-at-michigan-trump-rally

Crowd chants lock her up about Whitmer at Trump's rally in Michigan. He is openly encouraging violence by his supporters and he did nothing to tell them that was inappropriate. I hope he and the Republicans lose in a absolute blowout.

Last I checked, Whitmer's lockdown was fairly popular. 60% or so. But now that's gone, it will come down to the Republican state management rather than whatever dumb shit Trump says at a rally.

New daily cases are going up quite steeply; it looks like they will exceed the height of the first wave. That would prang the Republicans worse than anything Trump does or says.

[United States of Devonta]

Probably not given the amount of dictator worship among many right "libertarians".

Higher than Castro and Chavez apologists among self proclaimed libsocs?

Not trying to go for a tu quoque, but both sides have closet authoritarians pretending to be libs. Many times they say the silent part out loud

I'd argue many libsocs acknowledge both are authoritarians (or at least Castro), but recognize they had successful policies regarding healthcare and education.

[Sanghyeok]

He is openly encouraging violence by his supporters and he did nothing to tell them that was inappropriate.

Delightful. Someone should send him back to grade school and teach him empathy, and perhaps basic spelling alongside it.

[Sanghyeok]

New daily cases are going up quite steeply; it looks like they will exceed the height of the first wave.

I hope that if elected, Biden can institute a national mask policy and 2-week lockdown.

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521563-crowd-chants-lock-her-up-about-whitmer-at-michigan-trump-rally

Crowd chants lock her up about Whitmer at Trump's rally in Michigan. He is openly encouraging violence by his supporters and he did nothing to tell them that was inappropriate. I hope he and the Republicans lose in a absolute blowout.

Last I checked, Whitmer's lockdown was fairly popular. 60% or so. But now that's gone, it will come down to the Republican state management rather than whatever dumb shit Trump says at a rally.

New daily cases are going up quite steeply; it looks like they will exceed the height of the first wave. That would prang the Republicans worse than anything Trump does or says.

The state senate isn't up till 2022 as the terms are four years. They could lose the House though.

He is openly endorsing violence by saying nothing. I wouldn't be shocked if one his cult like followers tries something since hes giving the ok to talk like this.

[San Lumen]

New daily cases are going up quite steeply; it looks like they will exceed the height of the first wave.

I hope that if elected, Biden can institute a national mask policy and 2-week lockdown.

He can't. He doesnt have the authority. Biden himself said this.

[Picairn]

He can't. He doesnt have the authority. Biden himself said this.

What about Congress?

[San Lumen]

He can't. He doesnt have the authority. Biden himself said this.

What about Congress?

Its questionable. Plus i dont think democrats want to enshrine masks into law.

[Sanghyeok]

I hope that if elected, Biden can institute a national mask policy and 2-week lockdown.

He can't. He doesn't have the authority. Biden himself said this.

A shame, really. I've been arguing that the US needs a stronger central government for some time now, and I feel this is one case where it really could help.

[San Lumen]

He can't. He doesn't have the authority. Biden himself said this.

A shame, really. I've been arguing that the US needs a stronger central government for some time now, and I feel this is one case where it really could help.

The president cannot make law and both things would be doing so.

[Sanghyeok]

A shame, really. I've been arguing that the US needs a stronger central government for some time now, and I feel this is one case where it really could help.

The president cannot make law and both things would be doing so.

I understand your point. But I am arguing what I think would be ideal.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Looks like Florida will go down to the wire, as usual.

Groan, bloody Florida. FL and PA are the tipping point states. Trump could lose PA but still win if he gets FL.

[San Lumen]

The president cannot make law and both things would be doing so.

I understand your point. But I am arguing what I think would be ideal.

Its not going to happen.

[Northern Davincia]

He can't. He doesn't have the authority. Biden himself said this.

A shame, really. I've been arguing that the US needs a stronger central government for some time now, and I feel this is one case where it really could help.

A stronger central government is the last thing any nation needs.

[Arlenton]

Looks like Florida will go down to the wire, as usual.

Groan, bloody Florida. FL and PA are the tipping point states. Trump could lose PA but still win if he gets FL.

I really doubt that, given Trump is polling worse in Wisconsin and Michigan than he is in Pennsylvania.

[San Lumen]

Groan, bloody Florida. FL and PA are the tipping point states. Trump could lose PA but still win if he gets FL.

I really doubt that, given Trump is polling worse in Wisconsin and Michigan than he is in Pennsylvania.

If he wins both those states hes likely winning Pennsylvania.

[Kanadorika]

A shame, really. I've been arguing that the US needs a stronger central government for some time now, and I feel this is one case where it really could help.

A stronger central government is the last thing any nation needs.

Until you realize that 50 states handling covid in 50 different ways means we are doomed to be stuck in the same first wave for ages.

[Sanghyeok]

Until you realize that 50 states handling covid in 50 different ways means we are doomed to be stuck in the same first wave for ages.

Exactly. A government needs to have stronger emergency powers in some cases.

[San Lumen]

A stronger central government is the last thing any nation needs.

Until you realize that 50 states handling covid in 50 different ways means we are doomed to be stuck in the same first wave for ages.

It wont be ages. Plus the president doesnt and shouldnt have the authority to make law. I could say the same about governors. what do you need a legislature for if the President or governor can simply make policy with the stroke of a pen?

[Arlenton]

I really doubt that, given Trump is polling worse in Wisconsin and Michigan than he is in Pennsylvania.

If he wins both those states hes likely winning Pennsylvania.

For sure. Pennsylvania is by far the easiest for Trump to win of the three.

Rural Appalachian whites are much more conservative and much less elastic than rural whites in the upper Midwest.

[Picairn]

Until you realize that 50 states handling covid in 50 different ways means we are doomed to be stuck in the same first wave for ages.

A pandemic should be treated as an invasion. The virus doesn't care which state or person it's gonna infect. With the federal government empowered to fight the pandemic same as fighting a war, we would handle the pandemic much better with a unified response.

[Northern Davincia]

A stronger central government is the last thing any nation needs.

Until you realize that 50 states handling covid in 50 different ways means we are doomed to be stuck in the same first wave for ages.

Freedom is inherently unsafe.