2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[Major-Tom]

They were always going to ram it through.

For some reason I expected Democrats to be more opposed to it. Shouldn't have gotten my hopes up, I suppose.

They're opposed, they just don't want to cause a scene before a major election. It's a little cynical, definitely, but I understand the reasoning. The Kavanaugh hearings arguably knee-capped candidates like McCaskill and Donnelly back in 2018, and they don't want the negative publicity shone on them, particularly in key swing states.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I've witnessed too much racism to think it's gone. America is still a hostile place for black people, Arabs and Hispanics.

Ditto, and I say this as a white dude. Even in ordinary conversations, it's pretty easy to pick up on the racist attitudes of others when they feel that you will turn a blind eye or even agree.

Had a guy rant to me about how some guy we know who is Albanian is "a foreigner and he's not welcome here. He should be sent back from where he came with his fucking little brother." That made me uncomfortable to say the least. Like damn what does he think about me?

[Necroghastia]

Modern day companies can’t cause a genocide like the Chinese cultural revolution, governments can. I will take my chances with companies

Funny how the companies do business with the Chinese government. You're comparing two sides of the same coin.

Also, modern companies absolutely can carry out genocides. Let's not forget that some people have been forced to ration out lifesaving medications because they can't afford as many doses as they actually need.

[Dominioan]

Wow Trump. Nice Town Hall so far...

[Jerzylvania]

They were always going to ram it through.

For some reason I expected Democrats to be more opposed to it. Shouldn't have gotten my hopes up, I suppose.

They're playing it as well as it can be played. Especially with a federal election in 19 days. I feel a majority of voters will deliver a decisive answer to the GOP for this maneuver. However, those voting third parties will sacrifice any role in that rebuke.

[The Caleshan Valkyrie]

Wow Trump. Nice Town Hall so far...

My sarcasmometer pinged.

[Dominioan]

Wow Trump. Nice Town Hall so far...

My sarcasmometer pinged.

I decided to leave since when he refused to call out people calling Dems pedos, I knew it was just gonna be him spouting crap.,

[Cannot think of a name]

My sarcasmometer pinged.

I decided to leave since when he refused to call out people calling Dems pedos, I knew it was just gonna be him spouting crap.,

I'm not watching for a few reasons, you can decide what's the biggest driver:

1. No, you don't get my attention. You spazzed out and refused to face your opponent. If you wanted me to hear what you had to say, you would have shown up.
2. The Lincoln Project, Biden campaign, and hand wringing news casters will tell me all the insane bullshit he'll say without me having to endure an hour and half of it.
3. I don't have a convenient way to stream it while ABC streams on HULU.

This works better, they're asking pointed questions about Biden's history and he's allowed to articulate an in depth answer and on more than one occasion has checked if the town hall member had a follow up or in one case offered to have a conversation with the guy afterward because he sensed that he didn't get the answer he wanted. That's not going to grab any headlines, but it's better than another set of headlines about two old men haranguing each other.

[Jerzylvania]

I decided to leave since when he refused to call out people calling Dems pedos, I knew it was just gonna be him spouting crap.,

I'm not watching for a few reasons, you can decide what's the biggest driver:

1. No, you don't get my attention. You spazzed out and refused to face your opponent. If you wanted me to hear what you had to say, you would have shown up.
2. The Lincoln Project, Biden campaign, and hand wringing news casters will tell me all the insane bullshit he'll say without me having to endure an hour and half of it.
3. I don't have a convenient way to stream it while ABC streams on HULU.

This works better, they're asking pointed questions about Biden's history and he's allowed to articulate an in depth answer and on more than one occasion has checked if the town hall member had a follow up or in one case offered to have a conversation with the guy afterward because he sensed that he didn't get the answer he wanted. That's not going to grab any headlines, but it's better than another set of headlines about two old men haranguing each other.

The correct answer... is number 1.

Next issue!

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Ice Cube defends advising Trump on plan for Black America

I am glad more people of color are starting to realize the Democrats don’t care about us and are just using us as a vote bank

Ice Cube's Contract with Black America has affirmative action in the second section.

Congrats to the President if he did really consult with the far leftist, but don't hold your breath for Trump or the Republicans to actually do a damn thing. At most Trump will harvest some jargon, use that like Black people are stupid and only respond to buzzwords ... then probably, say that isn't what the words really mean.

Also, you're black? Maybe I shouldn't be surprised, but I could have sworn you identified as Asian. You might be relying too much on the "people of color" label and actually being a bit racist, if you're asserting that Blacks and Asians have common cause just by not being white. Are you actually claiming "white privilege" ..?

[Cannot think of a name]

I'm not watching for a few reasons, you can decide what's the biggest driver:

1. No, you don't get my attention. You spazzed out and refused to face your opponent. If you wanted me to hear what you had to say, you would have shown up.
2. The Lincoln Project, Biden campaign, and hand wringing news casters will tell me all the insane bullshit he'll say without me having to endure an hour and half of it.
3. I don't have a convenient way to stream it while ABC streams on HULU.

This works better, they're asking pointed questions about Biden's history and he's allowed to articulate an in depth answer and on more than one occasion has checked if the town hall member had a follow up or in one case offered to have a conversation with the guy afterward because he sensed that he didn't get the answer he wanted. That's not going to grab any headlines, but it's better than another set of headlines about two old men haranguing each other.

The correct answer... is number 1.

Next issue!

Or right...probably right.

[Cannot think of a name]

I have to admit, though, it feels a bit like I went to a lecture that a professor recommended but didn't offer any extra credit instead of going down to Greek row where we don't know what's gonna happen but the phi beta guys rented a pool truck, half a ton of gelatin powder and a circus cannon.

[Dominioan]

The correct answer... is number 1.

Next issue!

Or right...probably right.

It is all of the above?

[Jerzylvania]

The correct answer... is number 1.

Next issue!

Or right...probably right.

Bye bye!

[Valrifell]

I have to admit, though, it feels a bit like I went to a lecture that a professor recommended but didn't offer any extra credit instead of going down to Greek row where we don't know what's gonna happen but the phi beta guys rented a pool truck, half a ton of gelatin powder and a circus cannon.

I have never related to anything less.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

However, those voting third parties will sacrifice any role in that rebuke.

That's the "a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump" fallacy, recycled.
Third party votes demonstrate "neither" and are a rebuke to both Biden and Trump.
That's not "no role in the rebuke" more like "half strength rebuke".

It remains true that Not Voting is not a meaningful rebuke.
What can be sufficiently explained by laziness will never be dignified as rebuke!

[Cannot think of a name]

Alright, I more or less understand people who don't really get what Biden's position on fracking is. It kind of sounds like "I'm not going to ban fracking, but you'll have to fix the consequences of fracking and also I'm going to work towards eventually making it obsolete by promoting and developing other sources of energy."

Or, "I'm not going to ban fracking but make it too complicated and expensive to compete with other forms of energy so that eventually it will ban itself."

But answering the question so as to annoy people who want fracking stopped AND people who don't.

[Albrenia]

So Trump finally explicitly denounced white supremacy, only to immediately fail to denounce the maniacs who believe that Democrats are satanists.

Also, Biden needs to be clearer in his refuse to pack the courts. I know he's said so already but he should do so several times more just to get the point across.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

So Trump finally explicitly denounced white supremacy, only to immediately fail to denounce the maniacs who believe that Democrats are satanists.

Also, Biden needs to be clearer in his refuse to pack the courts. I know he's said so already but he should do so several times more just to get the point across.

Did he do it on TV or behind closed doors to a reporter? His whole campaign was a white supremacist campaign.

[Albrenia]

So Trump finally explicitly denounced white supremacy, only to immediately fail to denounce the maniacs who believe that Democrats are satanists.

Also, Biden needs to be clearer in his refuse to pack the courts. I know he's said so already but he should do so several times more just to get the point across.

Did he do it on TV or behind closed doors to a reporter? His whole campaign was a white supremacist campaign.

Just saw it on CNN, I think he was in his Town Hall or something.

[Jerzylvania]

Alright, I more or less understand people who don't really get what Biden's position on fracking is. It kind of sounds like "I'm not going to ban fracking, but you'll have to fix the consequences of fracking and also I'm going to work towards eventually making it obsolete by promoting and developing other sources of energy."

Or, "I'm not going to ban fracking but make it too complicated and expensive to compete with other forms of energy so that eventually it will ban itself."

But answering the question so as to annoy people who want fracking stopped AND people who don't.

I say frick it.

[Rusozak]

So Trump finally explicitly denounced white supremacy, only to immediately fail to denounce the maniacs who believe that Democrats are satanists.

Also, Biden needs to be clearer in his refuse to pack the courts. I know he's said so already but he should do so several times more just to get the point across.

An actual denouncement or a "I have to say this so I don't get cancelled but we all know the truth so stand back and stand by *wink wink*" denouncement?

[Cannot think of a name]

So Trump finally explicitly denounced white supremacy, only to immediately fail to denounce the maniacs who believe that Democrats are satanists.

Also, Biden needs to be clearer in his refuse to pack the courts. I know he's said so already but he should do so several times more just to get the point across.

An actual denouncement or a "I have to say this so I don't get cancelled but we all know the truth so stand back and stand by *wink wink*" denouncement?

And how loud are we supposed to applaud when it takes two swings at the t-ball before he hits it?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Did he do it on TV or behind closed doors to a reporter? His whole campaign was a white supremacist campaign.

Just saw it on CNN, I think he was in his Town Hall or something.

Tfw it takes 18 attempts to get it right.

[Thermodolia]

Germany tried one too, and see what happened to that.

That wall wasn't to keep people out, it was to keep people in.

All walls are meant to keep people in. Or they can be. Why do you think I’m against a continuous border wall?