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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
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16%
No
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I Don't Know
36
21%
Too Early to Say
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Total votes : 168

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:34 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Cisairse wrote:538 says Purdue has a 72 in 100 chance at winning.

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I see no reason not to trust 538.

The chances simulator means nothing. Need I remind you that Hillary had the same chances.

Also the 538 model hasn’t been updated since the first

That’s a pretty bad misinterpretation of how probabilities work.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:35 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Andsed wrote:Is Trump still trying to do that? I thought we all agreed at this point that was just a dumb idea.

All of you leftists and anti Trump persons agreed that was just a dumb idea, so that doesn't make it so.

But I mean, it is a dumb idea. Even if your opposed to immigration its a dumb idea. Like come on lets not kid ourselves on this.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:39 pm

Andsed wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:All of you leftists and anti Trump persons agreed that was just a dumb idea, so that doesn't make it so.

But I mean, it is a dumb idea. Even if your opposed to immigration its a dumb idea. Like come on lets not kid ourselves on this.


Many Trump fans think everything he does is smart. That's different than 90% of those voting for Biden who know Biden isn't exactly bright.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:41 pm

Andsed wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:All of you leftists and anti Trump persons agreed that was just a dumb idea, so that doesn't make it so.

But I mean, it is a dumb idea. Even if your opposed to immigration its a dumb idea. Like come on lets not kid ourselves on this.

Many of us Republicans supported a tax on the family remittances and on the exports, those are not bad and dumb ideas. Those are not bad and dumb ideas because leftist Liberal Democrats and Democrat supporters say so. We strongly disagree, say it and leave it there like I do.

Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected as passed by the House and Senate and signed into law by any President. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is this easy to understand.

Many of us Republican Trump supporters strongly agree with me. what a coincidence most if not all who strongly disagree with me, are Democrats and Democrats supporters.

I rest my case.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:51 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Andsed wrote:But I mean, it is a dumb idea. Even if your opposed to immigration its a dumb idea. Like come on lets not kid ourselves on this.

Many of us Republicans supported a tax on the family remittances and on the exports, those are not bad and dumb ideas. Those are not bad and dumb ideas because leftist Liberal Democrats and Democrat supporters say so. We strongly disagree, say it and leave it there like I do.

Legal immigration is legal immigration with all their rights respected as passed by the House and Senate and signed into law by any President. Illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, it is this easy to understand.

Many of us Republican Trump supporters strongly agree with me. what a coincidence most if not all who strongly disagree with me, are Democrats and Democrats supporters.

I rest my case.

Okay but how is building a fucking wall along the border not an insanely stupid idea? Like come on. Can you really look me in the eye and say that spending massive amounts of time and resources on a wall(a solution which will in no way stop all immigration) is really a good idea?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:54 pm

Didnt know the italian anthem was a former president of the US.
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So in other words thousands of Cuban american Republicans cast their vote for a Castro supporting con artist and all those covid deaths were in vain cause Trump won't actually take on Cuba or China or any dictatorial regime he has business ties to.
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:56 pm

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:58 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Didnt know the italian anthem was a former president of the US.

My mistake lol, wrong link :lol2:
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Postby Andsed » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:58 pm

I do be tired


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:59 pm

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More Americans voted for Hillary, the crooked politician, and please don't try and get sarcastic. You support a guy who demonized Somalians, Arabs and Mexican Americans, which is racist and toxic as fuck my guy.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:01 pm

How much does Biden lead Trump by? 15 points?

Trump pushed this idea that Biden was senile. So I gotta ask, how does it feel getting bodied in the polls by a guy who allegedly has dementia?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:02 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:How much does Biden lead Trump by? 15 points?

Trump pushed this idea that Biden was senile. So I gotta ask, how does it feel getting bodied in the polls by a guy who allegedly has dementia?

I would kill for a live feed of the oval office to see his reactions to current trajectory of this election.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:03 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:How much does Biden lead Trump by? 15 points?

Trump pushed this idea that Biden was senile. So I gotta ask, how does it feel getting bodied in the polls by a guy who allegedly has dementia?

I would kill for a live feed of the oval office to see his reactions to current trajectory of this election.


I'm 99% sure that behind closed doors, Trump knows he's sinking in the polls and he's mad.

Sometimes I wonder if some of the stuff he's done in the last month has been some sick act of revenge against America for not liking him.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:04 pm

One of my biggest worries about this election was the Democrats would get complacent as they gained a lead in the polls, possibly allowing trump to close the gap and increase his chances of winning, but i think they have done a decent enough job at constantly going after him this time around.

The rioting and coronavirus response have also helped monumentally in proving tonnes of ammunition to use against him for his incompetence and failure of leadership.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:04 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I would kill for a live feed of the oval office to see his reactions to current trajectory of this election.


I'm 99% sure that behind closed doors, Trump knows he's sinking in the polls and he's mad.

Sometimes I wonder if some of the stuff he's done in the last month has been some sick act of revenge against America for not liking him.


Just wait until he's a lame duck.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:05 pm

Telconi wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I'm 99% sure that behind closed doors, Trump knows he's sinking in the polls and he's mad.

Sometimes I wonder if some of the stuff he's done in the last month has been some sick act of revenge against America for not liking him.


Just wait until he's a lame duck.


I thought you liked him?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:06 pm

Trump's covid herd immunity announcement pushed me 100% into voting for Biden. I'm not just likely to vote for Biden. I will. I have no choice when this embarrassment to the Republic is actively trying to cause mass death.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:06 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Just wait until he's a lame duck.


I thought you liked him?


That's your fault.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:06 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Just wait until he's a lame duck.


I thought you liked him?


I think he was in the hated Trump less than Clinton camp.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:07 pm

Telconi wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I'm 99% sure that behind closed doors, Trump knows he's sinking in the polls and he's mad.

Sometimes I wonder if some of the stuff he's done in the last month has been some sick act of revenge against America for not liking him.


Just wait until he's a lame duck.


So he's going to actually channel the big H and demand the country be burned to the ground for failing him?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:07 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I thought you liked him?


I think he was in the hated Trump less than Clinton camp.


Indeed he was.
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