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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
27
16%
No
61
36%
I Don't Know
36
21%
Too Early to Say
44
26%
 
Total votes : 168

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Postby Picairn » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:28 am

Zurkerx wrote:nearly 500 national security experts, with the inclusion of nearly 200 retired Generals & Admirals, have endorsed Biden.

Several served well into the Trump Administration, including Retired Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who was the second-highest ranking officer in the military as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff until August 2019. That will certainly continue to irk Trump and his supporters, whom I suspect will label them as "traitors".

Biden is finally winning the troops' vote, which used to be a Republican stronghold.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:31 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:The higher unemployment rate caused by the virus crisis has fallen in the last 4 months to 8.4 % and falling.

Not even one of you leftists posted about this good news for the American people, should I guess why? I don't have to guess why, I know why.

The jobless numbers have grown. And a lot are permanent. 8.4% permanent unemployment isn’t going to be a good look especially when you sacrificed what amounts to half the US deaths in World War 2 to reopen the economy but it did nothing
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:32 am

Picairn wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:nearly 500 national security experts, with the inclusion of nearly 200 retired Generals & Admirals, have endorsed Biden.

Several served well into the Trump Administration, including Retired Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who was the second-highest ranking officer in the military as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff until August 2019. That will certainly continue to irk Trump and his supporters, whom I suspect will label them as "traitors".

Biden is finally winning the troops' vote, which used to be a Republican stronghold.

The military has always been spilt down the middle. The idea that the military is majority republican is a lie
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:37 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:To be honest with all of you, I have seen a lot worst on NS, even towards me. They even have used the F word towards me and all Cubans.

They a few of them, once talked about Trump s genitals in the present tense as I was talking dirty about Trump s genitals. I reported it them, and the Mods basically said, I did not prove my case against them. I have to accept the Mods decisions on all reports and move on, which I did.

No one cares. You not assessing what I said. His comments about the election are not even remotely funny and the fact that you call it trolling shows just what a cultist you really are.

ok, they are not funny comments, but like it or not.

I think he is baiting and trolling you guys, and you guys are falling for it. I am being honest about it. That does not mean I am a real cultist. His baiting and trolling you guys, that you guys are falling for, has nothing to do with me, it has to do with all of you.

There I have addressed it. Like my answers or not.

I keep telling you all we Republicans supporters of President Trump and the Republicans, support and love President Trump because we strongly agree with him and the Republicans on most issues.

That does not make me a cultist.

That does not make Republicans supporters of President Trump a cultist.

That does not make Black African Americans supporters of President Trump, mentally ill Persons as a few leftist poster on here have posted, they think differently than you guys on the issues, no matter your so called facts and evidence.

Like it or not and I know you all don't like it.

You all strongly disagree with us Republicans on those most issues.

This is a Fact.

Like it or not and I know you all don't like it.

It does not change those Facts.

Re read my post in full context without taking it out of context to fit your premises and views, this goes for all of you.

Most Republicans do agree with me.

I do speak for most of them.

Like it or not and I know you all don't like it.

These are Facts.
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:41 am

Picairn wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:nearly 500 national security experts, with the inclusion of nearly 200 retired Generals & Admirals, have endorsed Biden.

Several served well into the Trump Administration, including Retired Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who was the second-highest ranking officer in the military as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff until August 2019. That will certainly continue to irk Trump and his supporters, whom I suspect will label them as "traitors".

Biden is finally winning the troops' vote, which used to be a Republican stronghold.


I'm not entirely sure if he's "winning" the troop vote per se given these are officer types endorsing Biden. But needless to say, I think these endorsements will sway a few troops.

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Picairn wrote:Biden is finally winning the troops' vote, which used to be a Republican stronghold.

The military has always been spilt down the middle. The idea that the military is majority republican is a lie


Perhaps but I do think they do generally lean Republican and will vote Republican though this year might be a bit different.
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Postby Picairn » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:44 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I think he is baiting and trolling you guys, and you guys are falling for it. I am being honest about it. That does not mean I am a real cultist. His baiting and trolling you guys, that you guys are falling for, has nothing to do with me, it has to do with all of you.

Trolling the libs while the country burns.

I keep telling you all we Republicans supporters of President Trump and the Republicans, support and love President Trump because we strongly agree with him and the Republicans on most issues.

You all strongly disagree with us Republicans on those most issues.

This is a Fact.

Like it or not and I know you all don't like it.

It does not change those Facts.

Re read my post in full context without taking it of context, to fit your premises and views, this goes for all of you.

Most Republicans do agree with me.

I do speak for most of them.

Like it or not and I know you all don't like it.

These are Facts.

Ugh, stop with the copy-pasted self-righteous arguments already. It's annoying to see the word "Fact" being uttered a gazillion times just to serve as a useless backup of your posts.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:46 am

Picairn wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I think he is baiting and trolling you guys, and you guys are falling for it. I am being honest about it. That does not mean I am a real cultist. His baiting and trolling you guys, that you guys are falling for, has nothing to do with me, it has to do with all of you.

Trolling the libs while the country burns.

I keep telling you all we Republicans supporters of President Trump and the Republicans, support and love President Trump because we strongly agree with him and the Republicans on most issues.

You all strongly disagree with us Republicans on those most issues.

This is a Fact.

Like it or not and I know you all don't like it.

It does not change those Facts.

Re read my post in full context without taking it of context, to fit your premises and views, this goes for all of you.

Most Republicans do agree with me.

I do speak for most of them.

Like it or not and I know you all don't like it.

These are Facts.

Ugh, stop with the copy-pasted self-righteous arguments already. It's annoying to see the word "Fact" being uttered a gazillion times just to serve as a useless backup of your posts.

There is no getting through to people like him. Trump could say the Earth is flat and dinosaurs are a hoax and they would find a way to defend it.
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Postby Maineiacs » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:51 am

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Corrian wrote:Fucking Christ, this is really going to be the ugliest election in modern US history by far.


Possibly. Led by the maga man himself. He has already refused committing to a peaceful transfer.



He refused to agree to any transfer of power, peaceful or otherwise.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:53 am

Maineiacs wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Possibly. Led by the maga man himself. He has already refused committing to a peaceful transfer.



He refused to agree to any transfer of power, peaceful or otherwise.

Multiple republicans already shot down his comments as unacceptable including McConnell.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:54 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Picairn wrote:Biden is finally winning the troops' vote, which used to be a Republican stronghold.


I'm not entirely sure if he's "winning" the troop vote per se given these are officer types endorsing Biden. But needless to say, I think these endorsements will sway a few troops.

Thermodolia wrote:The military has always been spilt down the middle. The idea that the military is majority republican is a lie


Perhaps but I do think they do generally lean Republican and will vote Republican though this year might be a bit different.

A recent poll said 48% of the military supported Biden with 49% supporting Trump
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:54 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
I'm not entirely sure if he's "winning" the troop vote per se given these are officer types endorsing Biden. But needless to say, I think these endorsements will sway a few troops.



Perhaps but I do think they do generally lean Republican and will vote Republican though this year might be a bit different.

A recent poll said 48% of the military supported Biden with 49% supporting Trump

That’s very bad news for him.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:01 am

Picairn wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I think he is baiting and trolling you guys, and you guys are falling for it. I am being honest about it. That does not mean I am a real cultist. His baiting and trolling you guys, that you guys are falling for, has nothing to do with me, it has to do with all of you.

Trolling the libs while the country burns.

I keep telling you all we Republicans supporters of President Trump and the Republicans, support and love President Trump because we strongly agree with him and the Republicans on most issues.

You all strongly disagree with us Republicans on those most issues.

This is a Fact.

Like it or not and I know you all don't like it.

It does not change those Facts.

Re read my post in full context without taking it of context, to fit your premises and views, this goes for all of you.

Most Republicans do agree with me.

I do speak for most of them.

Like it or not and I know you all don't like it.

These are Facts.

Ugh, stop with the copy-pasted self-righteous arguments already. It's annoying to see the word "Fact" being uttered a gazillion times just to serve as a useless backup of your posts.

Many times:

I have explained in details, the violent protests, burnings of businesses, buildings, lootings, tearing down statues and monuments, killing innocent persons, killing cops that have not participated on certain incidents against blacks,

Throwing projectiles against the Cops, the defund the police movement, the abolish the police movement, the abolish Ice movement, mostly in Democrat run cities, by Democrat mayors and their police departments, many of them run by black chiefs of Police, even in certain cities where blacks are a minority, have nothing to do with Trump.

They did not start with Trump, which you all, Biden and the non partisan, political saint Democrats Politicians love to blame Trump for.

President Trump has offered them his help, and they have refused his help because he is a Republican President, especially during an election season. If it weare President Hillary Clinton, they would have accepted the help of the President of the USA, lets admit it, lets all admit it.

Trump has not encouraged anyone to commit violence, has not forced anyone to commit violence. These persons made a personal decision to commit violence. They are responsible for the violence and crimes they commit.

Many of them are whites of Euro descent.

You and I and others here who support them, have made a personnel decision not to commit those crimes.

They don't deserve the support, excuses and justifications on anyone on NS or the nation.

They are breaking the laws all nations have, not Trump.

But you all love to blame everything and anything on Trump and the Republicans.

These are Facts.

Now all of you know how I feel when many of you guys use the word facts, too me. You all don't have a problem when your friends you agree with use it on me and us Republicans, the word Facts.

I rest my case again, but it is a figure of speech, :) lol.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:12 am

Zurkerx wrote:nearly 500 national security experts, with the inclusion of nearly 200 retired Generals & Admirals, have endorsed Biden.

Several served well into the Trump Administration, including Retired Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who was the second-highest ranking officer in the military as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff until August 2019. That will certainly continue to irk Trump and his supporters, whom I suspect will label them as "traitors".

If Trump plays the "I'm not leaving" card too hard, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a military coup.
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Postby Picairn » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:14 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Now all of you know how I feel when many of you guys use the word facts, too me. You all don't have a problem when you friends you agree with use it on me and us Republicans, the word Facts.

I rarely ever inserted the affirmative "Facts" into my arguments - links, evidence and logical argumentation speak for themselves. If anything, adding the word into an argument makes your case weaker, as it means your arguments are so poor they need the "magic" word to strengthen themselves.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:15 am

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:nearly 500 national security experts, with the inclusion of nearly 200 retired Generals & Admirals, have endorsed Biden.

Several served well into the Trump Administration, including Retired Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who was the second-highest ranking officer in the military as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff until August 2019. That will certainly continue to irk Trump and his supporters, whom I suspect will label them as "traitors".

If Trump pushes the "I'm not leaving" card too hard, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a military coup.


If Trump loses the election and tries that, then it wouldn't be much a coup, would it? By all means Biden would be the legitimate President of the United States, if he doesn't stand down by inauguration then his hypothetical arrest and removal wouldn't be a coup, it would be a prevention of one. If Trump wins then that's just what happened in 2016, he tries to delegitimize the results in front of an election he's expected to lose but rolls with it after.

The USAF won't act sooner than the election, if you mean to imply they go after him before then.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:15 am

San Lumen wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

He refused to agree to any transfer of power, peaceful or otherwise.

Multiple republicans already shot down his comments as unacceptable including McConnell.

Republicans say a lot of shit they don't mean, McConnell chief among them.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:16 am

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San Lumen wrote:Multiple republicans already shot down his comments as unacceptable including McConnell.

Republicans say a lot of shit they don't mean, McConnell chief among them.


McConnell treats politics as a game to gain and maintain power, if he thought it was possible for Trump to fake it through the election he absolutely would support it. Right now he doesn't see it as viable but he could be convinced.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:17 am

Valrifell wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:If Trump pushes the "I'm not leaving" card too hard, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a military coup.


If Trump loses the election and tries that, then it wouldn't be much a coup, would it? By all means Biden would be the legitimate President of the United States, if he doesn't stand down by inauguration then his hypothetical arrest and removal wouldn't be a coup, it would be a prevention of one. If Trump wins then that's just what happened in 2016, he tries to delegitimize the results in front of an election he's expected to lose but rolls with it after.

The USAF won't act sooner than the election, if you mean to imply they go after him before then.

It depends on what the military decides to do. If they have a caretaker government and then transfer power to the winner of the election, one could consider that a maintenance of law and order.

If they establish a military dictatorship, I'd consider that a coup.
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Postby No State Here » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:17 am

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Zurkerx wrote:nearly 500 national security experts, with the inclusion of nearly 200 retired Generals & Admirals, have endorsed Biden.

Several served well into the Trump Administration, including Retired Air Force Gen. Paul Selva, who was the second-highest ranking officer in the military as vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff until August 2019. That will certainly continue to irk Trump and his supporters, whom I suspect will label them as "traitors".

If Trump plays the "I'm not leaving" card too hard, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a military coup.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:24 am

Picairn wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Now all of you know how I feel when many of you guys use the word facts, too me. You all don't have a problem when you friends you agree with use it on me and us Republicans, the word Facts.

I rarely ever inserted the affirmative "Facts" into my arguments - links, evidence and logical argumentation speak for themselves. If anything, adding the word into an argument makes your case weaker, as it means your arguments are so poor they need the "magic" word to strengthen themselves.

In your case I agree with you, you have not used the word Facts, but many here use it towards me and us Republicans, all the time, directly and in directly.

Now all of you know how it feels to me and us Republicans.

There is a good reason why at least 90 % of the posters on these related threads are Democrats and Democrat supporters. I keep posting about.

According to my conversations with them on discord, Breitbart and other reliable right wing sources to US Republicans, many of them ignore you guys on these threads, because they feel they cant argue with you guys. I am not lying.

Its called Facts.

I post proudly on Breitbart from time to time, and we agree with each other. Just like you guys agree with each other on your reliable leftist and anti Trump sources, sites.

Have I made any sense to any of you on any of my posts and points?
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:25 am

No State Here wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:If Trump plays the "I'm not leaving" card too hard, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a military coup.

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I sincerely hope we make it through this election without incident. Whoever wins fair and square should take office.

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:25 am

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Eukaryotic Cells wrote:If Trump plays the "I'm not leaving" card too hard, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a military coup.

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What you don't trust the military? :roll:

Specially considering Trump has the power to appoint generals.

Ah, but that's the thing innit. They're sworn to defend the American Republic, not Trump.

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Postby Picairn » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:25 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Breitbart and other reliable right wing sources to US Republicans,

No, let me stop you right there.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:25 am

Valrifell wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Republicans say a lot of shit they don't mean, McConnell chief among them.


McConnell treats politics as a game to gain and maintain power, if he thought it was possible for Trump to fake it through the election he absolutely would support it. Right now he doesn't see it as viable but he could be convinced.

The list of reasons to not trust these people is ridiculously long, but any day now they're going to force through a Supreme Court nomination after just a few years ago saying that no such thing should happen in an election year. Their word means nothing to them, this should be obvious.

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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:28 am

The Rich Port wrote:
No State Here wrote:The one thing worse than Trump


What you don't trust the military? :roll:

Specially considering Trump has the power to appoint generals.

Ah, but that's the thing innit. They're sworn to defend the American Republic, not Trump.

I don't know what their intentions would be, necessarily. Violence in the streets would also be guaranteed at that point, although I suppose it would already be occuring if Trump refuses to go.

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