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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
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No
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I Don't Know
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Too Early to Say
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:15 am

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That sounds bad. How are we supposed to quote opinions from before the day, to make insightful replies like "I told you so!" ..?

Maybe locking the next thread early (at 300 pages or whatever) would ensure some continuity over Election Day, for the thread after that?


Well, last time around, the Mods just made a special final thread because they figured it would take the full 500 pages just for the few days from the election onward.


I don't think there's any technical reason for the 500 page limit. The longer the thread the worse, theoretically, but in practice posters hardly ever read the thread from the start when they're new to it, or quote early posts a hundred pages later. As I understand it, the Mods picked 500 because it seemed more than generous and was a round number.

Probably the only bad thing about letting a thread run to 1000 instead of 500 would be the precedent it would set.

Apparently Gaia Online uses a version of phpBB which they have modified up the wazoo. So it's not proof of anything that they had a thread about making a million page thread. Which succeeded. It's just funny.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:28 am

Six more pages until we reached 500.
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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:13 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Six more pages until we reached 500.

I gotta say that was rather quick :lol:
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:45 am

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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Six more pages until we reached 500.

I gotta say that was rather quick :lol:


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Postby North American Imperial State » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:04 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Well, last time around, the Mods just made a special final thread because they figured it would take the full 500 pages just for the few days from the election onward.


I don't think there's any technical reason for the 500 page limit. The longer the thread the worse, theoretically, but in practice posters hardly ever read the thread from the start when they're new to it, or quote early posts a hundred pages later. As I understand it, the Mods picked 500 because it seemed more than generous and was a round number.

Probably the only bad thing about letting a thread run to 1000 instead of 500 would be the precedent it would set.

Apparently Gaia Online uses a version of phpBB which they have modified up the wazoo. So it's not proof of anything that they had a thread about making a million page thread. Which succeeded. It's just funny.

I think there is a tech reason the Mods lock at page 500, iirc something to do with the servers.
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Postby Forsher » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:22 am

North American Imperial State wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
I don't think there's any technical reason for the 500 page limit. The longer the thread the worse, theoretically, but in practice posters hardly ever read the thread from the start when they're new to it, or quote early posts a hundred pages later. As I understand it, the Mods picked 500 because it seemed more than generous and was a round number.

Probably the only bad thing about letting a thread run to 1000 instead of 500 would be the precedent it would set.

Apparently Gaia Online uses a version of phpBB which they have modified up the wazoo. So it's not proof of anything that they had a thread about making a million page thread. Which succeeded. It's just funny.

I think there is a tech reason the Mods lock at page 500, iirc something to do with the servers.


That's what they said, yeah.

Used to be threads ran forever.

Then it was 1000 pages.

Then it was 500.

There may have been a period of 5000 pages... certainly TET did hit page 5000 way back when (not sure if this was a limit or just where they eventually made a new thread??). In any case, you can see the development by looking at old TETs. The first one was chunked from an old bigger thread... still 1000 pages long. That continues until Part 7 which is 618 pages, which was when they made TET 2. And TET 2 was cut down at 1000, as was TET 3... but TET 4? Only allowed 500 and it's been that way ever since. People were confused in TET 4.

EDIT: I think TET topped out at 5618 pages, give or take.
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:33 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Nuroblav wrote:I gotta say that was rather quick :lol:


Time flies when you're pointing out the president's flaws.


But 500 pages in less than a month? I think that's a record.
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Postby Picairn » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:35 am

Rusozak wrote:But 500 pages in less than a month? I think that's a record.

5 days left. Let's see if we can fill up the rest before that. :)
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:36 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Six more pages until we reached 500.

I'm prepared to be there early for the next one.
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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:37 am

Geneviev wrote:I'm prepared to be there early for the next one.

Hopefully I can get there as well, although I'm not always on here so who knows.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:41 am

Rusozak wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Time flies when you're pointing out the president's flaws.


But 500 pages in less than a month? I think that's a record.


The 2nd Covid thread only lasted 2 weeks.

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Postby Exalted Inquellian State » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:16 am

Well, I won't be seeing you there.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:20 am

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Citigroup executive Ray McQuire has entered the democratic mayoral primary in New York to succeed de blasio who is term limited.

The election isn’t until next year but if victorious would be the cities second black mayor.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:23 am

San Lumen wrote:https://abc7ny.com/7062087/?ex_cid=TA_WABC_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3Oowta-jziKXQOMYj0seU51Apw-3nR5FBYVoFO8WQGbJ2w2_p2DQvvoJ0
Citigroup executive Ray McQuire has entered the democratic mayoral primary in New York to succeed de blasio who is term limited.

The election isn’t until next year but if victorious would be the cities second black mayor.


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Postby San Lumen » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:29 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://abc7ny.com/7062087/?ex_cid=TA_WABC_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3Oowta-jziKXQOMYj0seU51Apw-3nR5FBYVoFO8WQGbJ2w2_p2DQvvoJ0
Citigroup executive Ray McQuire has entered the democratic mayoral primary in New York to succeed de blasio who is term limited.

The election isn’t until next year but if victorious would be the cities second black mayor.


Oh fuck anything Shitigroup running government.

I might vote for him. New York City has ranked choice voting in the primary next year for the first time.

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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:57 am

San Lumen wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Oh fuck anything Shitigroup running government.

I might vote for him. New York City has ranked choice voting in the primary next year for the first time.


You live in NYC?
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Postby Aureumterra III » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:05 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Nuroblav wrote:I gotta say that was rather quick :lol:


Time flies when you're pointing out the president's flaws.

Well yes, this is a Trump bashing thread, an echo chamber you will. That’s further affirmed by the fact that whenever someone calls the echo chamber out, everyone dogpiles said person
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:06 am

Aureumterra III wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Time flies when you're pointing out the president's flaws.

Well yes, this is a Trump bashing thread


Trump does make it easy.
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Postby Geneviev » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:07 am

Aureumterra III wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Time flies when you're pointing out the president's flaws.

Well yes, this is a Trump bashing thread, an echo chamber you will. That’s further affirmed by the fact that whenever someone calls the echo chamber out, everyone dogpiles said person

I wouldn't call it an echo chamber. People with different opinions post here just as much.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:07 am

Aureumterra III wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Time flies when you're pointing out the president's flaws.

Well yes, this is a Trump bashing thread, an echo chamber you will. That’s further affirmed by the fact that whenever someone calls the echo chamber out, everyone dogpiles said person


Hmmmm? Of course weak arguments and general fabrications aren’t the reason?

You have a chance; why should I vote for Trump?
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Postby Kiu Ghesik » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:09 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Aureumterra III wrote:Well yes, this is a Trump bashing thread, an echo chamber you will. That’s further affirmed by the fact that whenever someone calls the echo chamber out, everyone dogpiles said person


Hmmmm? Of course weak arguments and general fabrications aren’t the reason?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:11 am

Kiu Ghesik wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Hmmmm? Of course weak arguments and general fabrications aren’t the reason?

You have a chance; why should I vote for Trump?

You get a free orange and an "I Voted" sticker.


:eyebrow: That orange better not have the vaccine in it...does it?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:14 am

Aureumterra III wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Time flies when you're pointing out the president's flaws.

Well yes, this is a Trump bashing thread, an echo chamber you will. That’s further affirmed by the fact that whenever someone calls the echo chamber out, everyone dogpiles said person


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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:14 am

Aureumterra III wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Time flies when you're pointing out the president's flaws.

Well yes, this is a Trump bashing thread, an echo chamber you will. That’s further affirmed by the fact that whenever someone calls the echo chamber out, everyone dogpiles said person


The GOP is the echo chamber of corrupted yes men. People are sick of it. This thread is merely a reflection of that disgust.
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Postby Luminesa » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:17 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Shrillland wrote:We now have the menu, if you will, for the Second Debate: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/us/elections/climate-change-is-on-the-agenda-for-the-final-biden-trump-debate.html

The six issues shall be:
The Virus
National Security
Racial Issues
Leadership
American Families
Climate Change


Climate Change last is interesting. But I'm quite annoyed that Immigration hasn't been on the agenda for either debate: it's barely going to get a mention in the heated category of "Racial Issues" but it should be talked about. It was the major plank of Trump's election and until this year it was debated a lot.

How does Biden bring up that skilled worker visas take jobs off college graduates in the US, while farmers are crying out for more low-skilled labor? Or the US being a meaner and less worthy world citizen by taking fewer refugees or locking up asylum seekers in bad conditions.

It's neither necessary nor desirable to mention race to get those issues on the table. One is on the subject of jobs. The other is on the subject of human rights. There really should be a separate Immigration debate.

He doesn’t, because the wrong answer will cost him a big chunk of his base. Hence why this issue is being ignored.

Honestly it’s just going to be another shouting match, so I don’t see why they’re so worried about the topics.
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