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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
27
16%
No
61
36%
I Don't Know
36
21%
Too Early to Say
44
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:45 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:When the doomsday cult is beyond our borders, it's not our problem.


A shame that their propaganda and followers don't respect borders.

True, but our aim should be to hand anti-terror efforts to foreign governments where it's a much bigger problem. At the same time, we can keep defenses up at home.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:46 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A shame that their propaganda and followers don't respect borders.

True, but our aim should be to hand anti-terror efforts to foreign governments where it's a much bigger problem. At the same time, we can keep defenses up at home.


You can't stop lone wolf attacks. You need to directly attack the source and shatter their legitimacy.
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:50 pm

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Northern Davincia wrote:True, but our aim should be to hand anti-terror efforts to foreign governments where it's a much bigger problem. At the same time, we can keep defenses up at home.


You can't stop lone wolf attacks. You need to directly attack the source and shatter their legitimacy.


Get ready, Davincia is about to fucking solve terrorism right here right now man, shiiiiiit.
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Postby US-SSR » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:56 pm

The Rich Port wrote:From what I understand, if Trump dies and his amazing team of non-crooks don't cover it up, it's up to the Republican Party to nominate someone to run in his place, it doesn't automatically default to Pence, only the remaining months. Pence could say no, and frankly, yeah he probably would because he is unpopular and too lazy to be President.

If they do cover it up and Trump wins as a corpse, Pence gets his next 4 years as the President Nobody Asked For.

If both of them die because Pence and Trump spend too much time cuddling while taking turns coughing in each others mouths as a dare, the chain of command would go in it's usual order, both before and after the election.


The thing is most if not all of the ballots have been printed. We have voted as have an unprecedented number of others. If Biden wins as expected the point is moot whatever happens to Trump. If Trump wins, having died in the meantime, well, there is no precedent. There are no effective laws requiring electors to vote for any candidate so it's possible some unforeseen split within the Republican Party will throw the election into the House.

My working hypothesis is that Trump's demise would be a wash electorally. The number of Trumpists who would simply stay home would roughy balance the number of "soft Republicans" who would turn out to support Pence or whoever. But that's just a guess really.

As for the clown in the Oval Office I don't feel the least bit sorry. He's spent most of the last year sacrificing the health and lives of the people he theoretically governs to serve the interests of his own reelection. It's only just -- not to mention predictable -- that he has contracted the disease that has killed nearly 210,000 Americans. And I hope it goes through the White House staff like gangrene through a Civil War hospital.
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Postby Loben III » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:58 pm

US-SSR wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:From what I understand, if Trump dies and his amazing team of non-crooks don't cover it up, it's up to the Republican Party to nominate someone to run in his place, it doesn't automatically default to Pence, only the remaining months. Pence could say no, and frankly, yeah he probably would because he is unpopular and too lazy to be President.

If they do cover it up and Trump wins as a corpse, Pence gets his next 4 years as the President Nobody Asked For.

If both of them die because Pence and Trump spend too much time cuddling while taking turns coughing in each others mouths as a dare, the chain of command would go in it's usual order, both before and after the election.


The thing is most if not all of the ballots have been printed. We have voted as have an unprecedented number of others. If Biden wins as expected the point is moot whatever happens to Trump. If Trump wins, having died in the meantime, well, there is no precedent. There are no effective laws requiring electors to vote for any candidate so it's possible some unforeseen split within the Republican Party will throw the election into the House.

My working hypothesis is that Trump's demise would be a wash electorally. The number of Trumpists who would simply stay home would roughy balance the number of "soft Republicans" who would turn out to support Pence or whoever. But that's just a guess really.

As for the clown in the Oval Office I don't feel the least bit sorry. He's spent most of the last year sacrificing the health and lives of the people he theoretically governs to serve the interests of his own reelection. It's only just -- not to mention predictable -- that he has contracted the disease that has killed nearly 210,000 Americans. And I hope it goes through the White House staff like gangrene through a Civil War hospital.


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Postby No State Here » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:02 pm

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Gravlen wrote:By a surprising quirk of fate, you get BoJo instead.


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Jorgensen’s platform actually does have reduction of the debt

Also she isn’t a rapist, you can’t say the same with 100% confidence for the two frontrunners
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 pm

US-SSR wrote:As for the clown in the Oval Office I don't feel the least bit sorry. He's spent most of the last year sacrificing the health and lives of the people he theoretically governs to serve the interests of his own reelection. It's only just -- not to mention predictable -- that he has contracted the disease that has killed nearly 210,000 Americans. And I hope it goes through the White House staff like gangrene through a Civil War hospital.


This whole bit is just trashy. Maybe take some cues from your candidate instead cuz Biden at least is earning peoples respect.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:08 pm

US-SSR wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:From what I understand, if Trump dies and his amazing team of non-crooks don't cover it up, it's up to the Republican Party to nominate someone to run in his place, it doesn't automatically default to Pence, only the remaining months. Pence could say no, and frankly, yeah he probably would because he is unpopular and too lazy to be President.

If they do cover it up and Trump wins as a corpse, Pence gets his next 4 years as the President Nobody Asked For.

If both of them die because Pence and Trump spend too much time cuddling while taking turns coughing in each others mouths as a dare, the chain of command would go in it's usual order, both before and after the election.


The thing is most if not all of the ballots have been printed. We have voted as have an unprecedented number of others. If Biden wins as expected the point is moot whatever happens to Trump. If Trump wins, having died in the meantime, well, there is no precedent. There are no effective laws requiring electors to vote for any candidate so it's possible some unforeseen split within the Republican Party will throw the election into the House.

My working hypothesis is that Trump's demise would be a wash electorally. The number of Trumpists who would simply stay home would roughy balance the number of "soft Republicans" who would turn out to support Pence or whoever. But that's just a guess really.

As for the clown in the Oval Office I don't feel the least bit sorry. He's spent most of the last year sacrificing the health and lives of the people he theoretically governs to serve the interests of his own reelection. It's only just -- not to mention predictable -- that he has contracted the disease that has killed nearly 210,000 Americans. And I hope it goes through the White House staff like gangrene through a Civil War hospital.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:08 pm

Trump is having trouble breathing. White House Advisors told Jim Acosta that it’s serious.

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... serious%2F

This isn’t good y’all
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:11 pm

To double up on my last post I wanna say I have earned some more respect for Biden over his response to Trump getting the virus. I still think Biden won't be a good president by any means but stepping back from campaigning and showing some civility, even when it's someone you dislike as much as Trump, is an admirable thing. Especially nowadays.
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Postby Loben III » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:13 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Trump is having trouble breathing. White House Advisors told Jim Acosta that it’s serious.

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... serious%2F

This isn’t good y’all


well, that sucks.

bet the people who a few years ago wished something like this happened are laughing, eh?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:13 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Trump is having trouble breathing. White House Advisors told Jim Acosta that it’s serious.

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... serious%2F

This isn’t good y’all


The problem? After all the lies; why is to be trusted without question? Is he really sick? Is this a campaign stunt?

He does have several things against him. Obesity, bad health and old age.

If he is in a bad way; Pence would be in charge.

I just don’t know.....then again. Maybe I am just speaking calmly.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:14 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:To double up on my last post I wanna say I have earned some more respect for Biden over his response to Trump getting the virus. I still think Biden won't be a good president by any means but stepping back from campaigning and showing some civility, even when it's someone you dislike as much as Trump, is an admirable thing. Especially nowadays.

Hopefully it can go a good bit towards mending the hyperpartisanship this country has but I’m not sure it will
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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:15 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Trump is having trouble breathing. White House Advisors told Jim Acosta that it’s serious.

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... serious%2F

This isn’t good y’all


The problem? After all the lies; why is to be trusted without question? Is he really sick? Is this a campaign stunt?

He does have several things against him. Obesity, bad health and old age.

If he is in a bad way; Pence would be in charge.

I just don’t know.....


Technically, the Vice President only takes over when the President is otherwise indisposed to make decisions. He only takes over when it becomes otherwise extremely inconvenient to have Trump continue to be in a leadership position.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:16 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Trump is having trouble breathing. White House Advisors told Jim Acosta that it’s serious.

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... serious%2F

This isn’t good y’all


The problem? After all the lies; why is to be trusted without question? Is he really sick? Is this a campaign stunt?

He does have several things against him. Obesity, bad health and old age.

If he is in a bad way; Pence would be in charge.

I just don’t know.....then again. Maybe I am just speaking calmly.

It’s not a campaign stunt. Campaign and being in front of people is his life blood. He has to give that up and spend at least 5 days in a hospital.

That’s not a campaign stunt that’s a deathnell for a campaign
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:17 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
The problem? After all the lies; why is to be trusted without question? Is he really sick? Is this a campaign stunt?

He does have several things against him. Obesity, bad health and old age.

If he is in a bad way; Pence would be in charge.

I just don’t know.....


Technically, the Vice President only takes over when the President is otherwise indisposed to make decisions. He only takes over when it becomes otherwise extremely inconvenient to have Trump continue to be in a leadership position.


If he goes on a ventilator; we probably won’t hear about it.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:17 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
The problem? After all the lies; why is to be trusted without question? Is he really sick? Is this a campaign stunt?

He does have several things against him. Obesity, bad health and old age.

If he is in a bad way; Pence would be in charge.

I just don’t know.....


Technically, the Vice President only takes over when the President is otherwise indisposed to make decisions. He only takes over when it becomes otherwise extremely inconvenient to have Trump continue to be in a leadership position.

If it’s as bad as they say Pence might be acting President by Saturday afternoon
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Postby Rusozak » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:18 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Trump is having trouble breathing. White House Advisors told Jim Acosta that it’s serious.

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... serious%2F

This isn’t good y’all


The problem? After all the lies; why is to be trusted without question? Is he really sick? Is this a campaign stunt?

He does have several things against him. Obesity, bad health and old age.

If he is in a bad way; Pence would be in charge.

I just don’t know.....then again. Maybe I am just speaking calmly.


If this is a campaign stunt, all the more reason to hate him. It's like pretending you have cancer.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:18 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Technically, the Vice President only takes over when the President is otherwise indisposed to make decisions. He only takes over when it becomes otherwise extremely inconvenient to have Trump continue to be in a leadership position.


If he goes on a ventilator; we probably won’t hear about it.

We’ll hear about it. Everyone will. The idea that they’ll try to cover it up is stupid and completely disregards the fact that they’ll have to keep thousands quiet
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:19 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
The problem? After all the lies; why is to be trusted without question? Is he really sick? Is this a campaign stunt?

He does have several things against him. Obesity, bad health and old age.

If he is in a bad way; Pence would be in charge.

I just don’t know.....then again. Maybe I am just speaking calmly.

It’s not a campaign stunt. Campaign and being in front of people is his life blood. He has to give that up and spend at least 5 days in a hospital.

That’s not a campaign stunt that’s a deathnell for a campaign


And yet the debate results were rather dismal. He will not improve as he is a one trick pony and people know what is coming. I wonder if this is to get out of the other debate(s).

If he is sick; he will be in there longer as he has the three strikes against him.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:19 pm

Now Kellyanne has reported she has covid.

Also, Thom Tillis.

News showed a gathering with 50+ people sitting next to each other and they highlighted people wearing masks. A grand total of two.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:32 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It’s not a campaign stunt. Campaign and being in front of people is his life blood. He has to give that up and spend at least 5 days in a hospital.

That’s not a campaign stunt that’s a deathnell for a campaign


And yet the debate results were rather dismal. He will not improve as he is a one trick pony and people know what is coming. I wonder if this is to get out of the other debate(s).

If he is sick; he will be in there longer as he has the three strikes against him.

He didn’t pull this to get out of the debates. He’s seriously sick.

White House officials said the reason they took him on Marine One and earlier is because if they waited they feared they would have to bring him out on a gurney.

The guy isn’t faking it. He’s in bad shape. Washington Post article on the above

Also with Conway now confirmed to have it means that Amy Barrett possibly has it.
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Postby Rusozak » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:38 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Now Kellyanne has reported she has covid.

Also, Thom Tillis.

News showed a gathering with 50+ people sitting next to each other and they highlighted people wearing masks. A grand total of two.


I seriously hope this shuts down the anti-masker argument. Very doubtful, but one can hope.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:38 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Trump is having trouble breathing. White House Advisors told Jim Acosta that it’s serious.

https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/stat ... serious%2F

This isn’t good y’all

People can deteriorate very quickly with this disease. Not good at all.

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Postby The Rich Port » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:38 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
If he goes on a ventilator; we probably won’t hear about it.

We’ll hear about it. Everyone will. The idea that they’ll try to cover it up is stupid and completely disregards the fact that they’ll have to keep thousands quiet


Because the Trump presidency have been nothing but paragons of transparency and honesty, right? :roll:

I think the only reason this has gotten out is because Trump isn't at the helm anymore and whoever is in charge of information flow in the White House is sick of his shit, or like some people say, this is another one of Trump's big 6D chess moves that'll pay off in the long run like denying Coronavirus was a serious issue and destroying foreign relations and not condemning extremism.

Nevermind that it was probably Trump's irresponsible, prideful denial of science that probably landed him in this shit to begin with, if it is true.
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