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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:49 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:Kennedy was assassinated almost a full year before Election Day. Back then, the campaign wasn't near beginning. There wouldn't have been a thread on the 1964 election.

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=464444

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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:06 pm

Oh dear. How will he react? Will he even recover? Will he try to spend an entire day under a UV lamp, to 'cure' himself from coronavirus? Stay tuned for the next episode of My Little President Can't Be This Stupid!
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Postby Glorious Hong Kong » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:06 pm

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Glorious Hong Kong wrote:
Feel free to point out where at any point I have stated that peaceful protests should be suppressed,

Pretty much anytime you hear propaganda about Antifa and BLM and spout it without a second thought just like CCP goons about HK protestors, or have you already forgotten how the CCP media and police tried to portray them as depraved psychopaths?
I support the police, I oppose any kind of institutional reform,

Really? You don't think there's anything that should be done like demilitarizing them, removing qualified immunity, anything to make it harder for them to get away with murder?
and Blue Lives Matter.

Fun fucking fact: There's no such thing as a goddamn "Blue Life."
I'll wait. In the meantime, how about comparing the BLM CRT Marxist riots in America with the 1967 leftist riots in Hong Kong that aimed to destabilize Hong Kong and turn it into yet another communist city like the rest of China that the British luckily managed to suppress, buying us precious years of freedom?

Well, the former doesn't even exist, so I think I'll pass. Also, what did cathode ray tubes do to you?



Guess I can add ABC News to the list of fake news organizations.

Kyle Rittenhouse is a national hero who should be given a medal. All of the talking points are absolutely spot on.

Whether or not he was in the right, "national hero" is a bit fucking much.


Read the post again. At no point have I stated that peaceful protests should be suppressed, I support the police, or Blue Lives Matter precisely because of the behavior of the Hong Kong Police Force and footage of U.S. police brutality back in June which I haven't been seeing much of these past few months and which I thoroughly condemn. I acknowledge that peaceful protesters make up the vast majority of BLM demonstrators and I respect their right to protest. Condemning BLM and Antifa Marxist rioters =/= Blue Lives Matter. I can condemn BLM racism and police brutality at the same time. Also, George Floyd wasn't murdered as I said in the BLM riots thread. The entire series of racist, anti-white scapegoating protests, riots, and Marxist talking points began four months ago on a barefaced LIE that the MSM has largely failed to debunk even after a whole MONTH after the toxicology report exonerating the officers charged with Floyd's death was made public knowledge.

CRT stands for critical race theory, a derivative of critical theory which is, in turn, a product of the Frankfurt School. BLM is a breeding ground for Marxist ideology and Joe Biden refuses to condemn either BLM or Antifa. The founders of the original BLM organization describe themselves as "trained Marxists".

Rusozak wrote:Man, those comments Trump made mocking Biden wearing a mask are really going to come back to haunt him.


I'm not going to defend Trump's frankly abysmal record on tackling the coronavirus. I have said before that this is his Achilles' heel and perhaps the one thing that could see him lose the election as much as I want him to stick it to the profoundly racist, misandrist, pro-communist Left and its mainstream broadcast, newspaper, and social media mouthpieces as well as the similarly communist PRC. (No, I'm not saying the CCP and the American Left are colluding to destroy the West. Leftist extremists have a track record of infighting to the point of stabbing their rivals to death with an ice pick in Mexico.)

I hope Trump survives and that his illness serves as a wake-up call, as late as it may be at this stage. It happened to Boris too.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:11 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Trump could very well die from this. I would say he'll likely survive, though.


I haven't yet found a year-by-year estimate of case mortality, but I'm getting 5% for men in their 70's and 13% for 80+

Given that Trump has never been a smoker and hasn't been a drinker since he was young, I think 5% chance of death.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:12 pm

The founders of the original BLM organization describe themselves as "trained Marxists".


Sorry, but I thought you were trying to turn public opinion against them?
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:13 pm

He probably won't die, but being an overweight old guy with a terrible diet (but not smoking or drinking) he'll probably not get away without feeling like total dogpoo for a while.

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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:14 pm

Pro-communist Left and its mainstream broadcast, newspaper, and social media mouthpieces


If only the mainstream media was really leftist...sigh
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Postby Eahland » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:14 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Trump could very well die from this. I would say he'll likely survive, though.


I haven't yet found a year-by-year estimate of case mortality, but I'm getting 5% for men in their 70's and 13% for 80+

Given that Trump has never been a smoker and hasn't been a drinker since he was young, I think 5% chance of death.

IME, "I just need to not nat-1 this Fort save," is always immediately followed by nat-1ing that Fort save.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:14 pm

Albrenia wrote:He probably won't die, but being an overweight old guy with a terrible diet (but not smoking or drinking) he'll probably not get away without feeling like total dogpoo for a while.


I imagine he might suffer long-term consequences and be bedridden for a while, perhaps even a long while. Now, we leave luck to heaven.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:16 pm

I wonder what the national security impact is going to be? I'm sure they have contingency plans to handle this, but it's still a big deal.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:17 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:I wonder what the national security impact is going to be? I'm sure they have contingency plans to handle this, but it's still a big deal.


Well, if he's asymptomatic, I'm sure he'll still do the normal stuff on a screen rather than in person. If he gets too bad and Pence is declared Acting President...then it's pretty self-explanatory.
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Postby Page » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:18 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:I wonder what the national security impact is going to be? I'm sure they have contingency plans to handle this, but it's still a big deal.


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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:18 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:I wonder what the national security impact is going to be? I'm sure they have contingency plans to handle this, but it's still a big deal.


Well, if he's asymptomatic, I'm sure he'll still do the normal stuff on a screen rather than in person. If he gets too bad and Pence is declared Acting President...then it's pretty self-explanatory.

What's going to happen with all of his staff and the other top-level officials that came into contact with him? They're going to have to quarantine, right?

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Postby Shrillland » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:19 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Well, if he's asymptomatic, I'm sure he'll still do the normal stuff on a screen rather than in person. If he gets too bad and Pence is declared Acting President...then it's pretty self-explanatory.

What's going to happen with all of his staff and the other top-level officials that came into contact with him? They're going to have to quarantine, right?


Most likely, yes.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:20 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:What's going to happen with all of his staff and the other top-level officials that came into contact with him? They're going to have to quarantine, right?


Most likely, yes.

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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:24 pm

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Necroghastia wrote:Pretty much anytime you hear propaganda about Antifa and BLM and spout it without a second thought just like CCP goons about HK protestors, or have you already forgotten how the CCP media and police tried to portray them as depraved psychopaths?

Really? You don't think there's anything that should be done like demilitarizing them, removing qualified immunity, anything to make it harder for them to get away with murder?

Fun fucking fact: There's no such thing as a goddamn "Blue Life."

Well, the former doesn't even exist, so I think I'll pass. Also, what did cathode ray tubes do to you?


Whether or not he was in the right, "national hero" is a bit fucking much.


Read the post again. At no point have I stated that peaceful protests should be suppressed, I support the police, or Blue Lives Matter

Again, no such thing as a Blue Life.
precisely because of the behavior of the Hong Kong Police Force and footage of U.S. police brutality back in June which I haven't been seeing much of these past few months and which I thoroughly condemn.

You... support the police because of police brutality? I've gotta be parsing this sentence wrong.
I acknowledge that peaceful protesters make up the vast majority of BLM demonstrators and I respect their right to protest.

So, acknowledging that the vast majority of BLM demonstrators are peaceful, how come you are constantly railing against BLM and wanting them to be condemned by prominent politicians and media?
Condemning BLM and Antifa Marxist rioters =/= Blue Lives Matter.

Not sure what you're saying here. Didn't you just say you support both?
I can condemn BLM racism and police brutality at the same time.

I'll believe it when I see it. So far, every post I've seen from you on the subject has been nothing but vitriol for protestors and nothing but licking for the boot.
Also, George Floyd wasn't murdered as I said in the BLM riots thread.

Without addressing the manner of death, Floyd was not the only one whose death sparked the current wave of unrest. Breonna Taylor was murdered in her sleep, remember.
The entire series of racist, anti-white scapegoating protests, riots, and Marxist talking points

There you go again.
began four months ago on a barefaced LIE that the MSM has largely failed to debunk even after a whole MONTH after the toxicology report exonerating the officers charged with Floyd's death was made public knowledge.

Probably because that toxicology report you're touting has itself been debunked, as was also said in the riots thread.
CRT stands for critical race theory, a derivative of critical theory which is, in turn, a product of the Frankfurt School. BLM is a breeding ground for Marxist ideology and Joe Biden refuses to condemn either BLM or Antifa. The founders of the original BLM organization describe themselves as "trained Marxists".

So? BLM and Antifa are movements and ideas, not organizations, and it's silly to condemn them when, as you yourself admitted, the vast majority are peaceful.
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:26 pm

Still kind of baffles me that people can look at the American Democrats and the 'SJW' crowd and think they're communists. Communists don't want to speak to the manager, make everyone play nice or demand safe spaces...

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Postby Sanghyeok » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:28 pm

Albrenia wrote:Still kind of baffles me that people can look at the American Democrats and the 'SJW' crowd and think they're communists.


Finally, something leftists and liberals can agree upon. World peace is possible after all!
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:06 am

I wonder when Trump got his testresults.

And if that was before the debate.

And if that was why he shouted nonstop in Bidens direction, hoping to infect him as well.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:13 am

The Alma Mater wrote:I wonder when Trump got his testresults.

And if that was before the debate.

And if that was why he shouted nonstop in Bidens direction, hoping to infect him as well.

Hope Hicks tested positive on Thursday. I assume Trump was tested using a rapid test sometime after that. He maybe got a follow-up PCR test to confirm the result (this is just speculation, though).
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Postby Blargoblarg » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:18 am

The Alma Mater wrote:I wonder when Trump got his testresults.

And if that was before the debate.

And if that was why he shouted nonstop in Bidens direction, hoping to infect him as well.

If both Trump and Biden have coronavirus that would be the icing on the cake of this crazy year.
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Postby Albrenia » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:21 am

Be weird if this ended up as a battle of the VPs.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:51 am

Blargoblarg wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:I wonder when Trump got his testresults.

And if that was before the debate.

And if that was why he shouted nonstop in Bidens direction, hoping to infect him as well.

If both Trump and Biden have coronavirus that would be the icing on the cake of this crazy year.


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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:11 am

I think it's kind of strange how almost exactly 1 week after I post on this thread:

"It's time for Biden to win." ...

Trump's campaign gets "derailed" by this Positive Test.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:18 am

Geniuses always ace tests. The virus will learn a lot from the experience.
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