2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

What the fuck.

The book is fucking hilarious. The Nazis then go on to nuke the entire world and kill all non-whites. It's such a masturbatory fantasy from a guy who never achieved real relevance at all and is only really known nowadays to people like me who like studying this shit.

And the white supremacists who use it as their dog whistle: https://twitter.com/hashtag/dayoftherope

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

The Day of the Rope is a scenario created in the Turner Diaries by William Luther Pierce where Nazis kill all non-whites and all white race traitors and it's really silly Ifreann would bring it up.

Many Fascist don't even out right support this. It's not politically advantageous in the slightest.

Does it matter that they don’t “outright” support it? They are fascists, they downplay their own extremism until they get power.

[Achidyemay]

The What.

A hypothetical event where white people eliminate all nonwhites in the US. The Proud Boys have never advocated such a thing.

Ehhh... I'm sure some have, others have not. It's like how the BLM organization has members who are socialists, but the broader movement is mostly just people calling for police reform. Some of the Proud Boys are probably racist, but the larger movement is mostly just Republicans and Right-side individuals who find it upsetting that only people on the left get to hurt people and break their stuff, so now they are doing it to.

[Ifreann]

Citation: The Proud Boys, all over the internet.

That has nothing to do with the Day of the Rope. Try something else, preferably not Twitter.

I'm sure you don't need me to tell you where to find the websites where Proud Boys talk among themselves as if no one is watching.

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That has nothing to do with the Day of the Rope. Try something else, preferably not Twitter.

The What.

The Day of the Rope is an event described in The Turner Diaries, the American neo-Nazi Bible, a book infamous for the many terrorist attacks it inspired, including the Oklahoma City bombing. Specifically, it is the day when a fascist insurgency rises up and en masse lynches non-whites and race traitors, so known because there are bodies hanged from every street light. The fictional fascist Turner even notes in his fictional diary that the many thousands murdered include people innocent of the aforementioned "crimes", but argues that this is not only acceptable but desirable, as terrorism is more effective when it is arbitrary, when everyone must fear that they could be next

[Aureumterra III]

A hypothetical event where white people eliminate all nonwhites in the US. The Proud Boys have never advocated such a thing.

Ehhh... I'm sure some have, others have not. It's like how the BLM organization has members who are socialists, but the broader movement is mostly just people calling for police reform. Some of the Proud Boys are probably racist, but the larger movement is mostly just Republicans and Right-side individuals who find it upsetting that only people on the left get to hurt people and break their stuff, so now they are doing it to.

Why is hurting people a good thing?

[DragonFarm]

A hypothetical event where white people eliminate all nonwhites in the US. The Proud Boys have never advocated such a thing.

Ehhh... I'm sure some have, others have not. It's like how the BLM organization has members who are socialists, but the broader movement is mostly just people calling for police reform. Some of the Proud Boys are probably racist, but the larger movement is mostly just Republicans and Right-side individuals who find it upsetting that only people on the left get to hurt people and break their stuff, so now they are doing it to.

Its antifa thats the problem. Antifa is the violence.

[DragonFarm]

Ehhh... I'm sure some have, others have not. It's like how the BLM organization has members who are socialists, but the broader movement is mostly just people calling for police reform. Some of the Proud Boys are probably racist, but the larger movement is mostly just Republicans and Right-side individuals who find it upsetting that only people on the left get to hurt people and break their stuff, so now they are doing it to.

Why is hurting people a good thing?

Its not, and neither is burning down buisnesses or shooting kids, or choking black people as a cop. They should both stop.

[RiderSyl]

Why is hurting people a good thing?

Its not, and neither is burning down buisnesses or shooting kids, or choking black people as a cop. They should both stop.

What a brave take.

[DragonFarm]

Its not, and neither is burning down buisnesses or shooting kids, or choking black people as a cop. They should both stop.

What a brave take.

Ok...

[Celritannia]

I think the most interesting part of the debate was the end with how their spouses approached them.
Jill lovingly embraced Joe, while Melania barely touched Donald.

[DragonFarm]

I think the most interesting part of the debate was the end with how their spouses approached them.
Jill lovingly embraced Joe, while Ivanka barely touched Donald.

Ivanka aint trumps wife though.

[Seangoli]

Proud Boys are ideologically vile. Whether or not they're white nationalists makes very little difference.

At most, this was a mistake by the moderator: picking a name Trump would recognize, rather than a less visible group known to be 100% white nationalists.

Trump saying "who?" would be just about the best result for him. Of course he couldn't fake it (Trump knows everything, except unimportant stuff that no-one knows) so being genuinely unaware of a named white supremacist group would be a good look!

Yeah, I was surprised regardless though. I figured Trump, for the sake of expediency not because he genuinely disavows them, would try to call Chris Wallace's bluff and just say "Well, of course I disavow white...white supremacists, but we also have ANTIFA, folks, Ant-EE-fa." Something like that.

But, sheesh, he couldn't even do the most basic thing and just say "Yeah, I disavow it?" Fuck me, man.

It was such a softball question that is impossible to fuck up, yet he did. Hell, most Trump supporters I know weren't happy with how he handled that question or the debate at all. It was such a simple, easy, question that could have been answered in any number of ways that would appeal to his crowd, yet he took almost the worst of approach possible outside of opening declaring support for it.

[DragonFarm]

Yeah, I was surprised regardless though. I figured Trump, for the sake of expediency not because he genuinely disavows them, would try to call Chris Wallace's bluff and just say "Well, of course I disavow white...white supremacists, but we also have ANTIFA, folks, Ant-EE-fa." Something like that.

But, sheesh, he couldn't even do the most basic thing and just say "Yeah, I disavow it?" Fuck me, man.

It was such a softball question that is impossible to fuck up, yet he did. Hell, most Trump supporters I know weren't happy with how he handled that question or the debate at all. It was such a simple, easy, question that could have been answered in any number of ways that would appeal to his crowd, yet he took almost the worst of approach possible outside of opening declaring support for it.

Joe Biden aided him by saying proud boys because proud boys probably could of been the best thing, if Joe said the KKK than maybe it would be different.

[Zurkerx]

I think the most interesting part of the debate was the end with how their spouses approached them.
Jill lovingly embraced Joe, while Ivanka barely touched Donald.

You mean Melania I hope? Yeah, I noticed that too. Quite shows where the relationship status of both stands.

But speaking of the debate, the The Commission on Presidential Debates have announced (wisely) that there will be format changes after that horrid chaos we had to witness, stating the following:

"Last night’s debate made clear that additional structure should be added to the format of the remaining debates to ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues," the CPD said in a statement. "The CPD will be carefully considering the changes that it will adopt and will announce those measures shortly."

This of course will depend on whether the candidates will accept the changes, something I think Trump's Camp will be less eager to do. But at least the CPD recognizes that there needs to be additional protection. My suggestions? Mute their microphones being one way and or a penalty box. Hopefully whatever changes they make, it makes it more formal and less likely for Trump to control it.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

It was such a softball question that is impossible to fuck up, yet he did. Hell, most Trump supporters I know weren't happy with how he handled that question or the debate at all. It was such a simple, easy, question that could have been answered in any number of ways that would appeal to his crowd, yet he took almost the worst of approach possible outside of opening declaring support for it.

Joe Biden aided him by saying proud boys because proud boys probably could of been the best thing, if Joe said the KKK than maybe it would be different.

How about... No fascists?

[Celritannia]

I think the most interesting part of the debate was the end with how their spouses approached them.
Jill lovingly embraced Joe, while Ivanka barely touched Donald.

Ivanka aint trumps wife though.

Ah, got the wrong name.

[Andsed]

Yeah, I was surprised regardless though. I figured Trump, for the sake of expediency not because he genuinely disavows them, would try to call Chris Wallace's bluff and just say "Well, of course I disavow white...white supremacists, but we also have ANTIFA, folks, Ant-EE-fa." Something like that.

But, sheesh, he couldn't even do the most basic thing and just say "Yeah, I disavow it?" Fuck me, man.

It was such a softball question that is impossible to fuck up, yet he did. Hell, most Trump supporters I know weren't happy with how he handled that question or the debate at all. It was such a simple, easy, question that could have been answered in any number of ways that would appeal to his crowd, yet he took almost the worst of approach possible outside of opening declaring support for it.

Indeed. Like all it would have take is like a token comment about how they suck. But no. He just said for them to "stand down." Just amazing.

[Nejii]

From a strategic political point, Trump not condemning white supremacy was shooting himself in the chest. Wether he is or isn’t a WS aside, even a knob would know that not condemning it would be extremely detrimental. It’s fair to say that he undoubtedly lost a lot of potential fringe republican and centrist voters.

(Notice I said from a strategic point, morals aside.)

[Kowani]

It was such a softball question that is impossible to fuck up, yet he did. Hell, most Trump supporters I know weren't happy with how he handled that question or the debate at all. It was such a simple, easy, question that could have been answered in any number of ways that would appeal to his crowd, yet he took almost the worst of approach possible outside of opening declaring support for it.

Indeed. Like all it would have take is like a token comment about how they suck. But no. He just said for them to "stand down." Just amazing.

Hell, he could’ve pretended he didn’t know who the PB are and it would’ve been better.

[Telconi]

From a strategic political point, Trump not condemning white supremacy was shooting himself in the chest. Wether he is or isn’t a WS aside, even a knob would know that not condemning it would be extremely detrimental. It’s fair to say that he undoubtedly lost a lot of potential fringe republican and centrist voters.

I doubt it, the people upset about 'fascism' aren't likely Trump voters anyway.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

From a strategic political point, Trump not condemning white supremacy was shooting himself in the chest. Wether he is or isn’t a WS aside, even a knob would know that not condemning it would be extremely detrimental. It’s fair to say that he undoubtedly lost a lot of potential fringe republican and centrist voters.

Condemning them would be even more detrimental. I don't think he lost more voters this way than he would have done if he had condemned. Not only because of the condemnation, but because of the weak stance he would be portraying.

[Nejii]

From a strategic political point, Trump not condemning white supremacy was shooting himself in the chest. Wether he is or isn’t a WS aside, even a knob would know that not condemning it would be extremely detrimental. It’s fair to say that he undoubtedly lost a lot of potential fringe republican and centrist voters.

Condemning them would be even more detrimental. I don't think he lost more voters this way than he would have done if he had condemned. Not only because of the condemnation, but because of the weak stance he would be portraying.

Respectfully I ask; What should he have done then?

[Talvezout]

https://poll.qu.edu/south-carolina/rele ... aseID=3677

New polling by Quinnipiac has Trump leading Biden by 1 point, Harrison and Graham tied in South Carolina.

(Last time SC was this close was in 1980)

[Telconi]

Condemning them would be even more detrimental. I don't think he lost more voters this way than he would have done if he had condemned. Not only because of the condemnation, but because of the weak stance he would be portraying.

Respectfully I ask; What should he have done then?

Exactly what he did tbh.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Condemning them would be even more detrimental. I don't think he lost more voters this way than he would have done if he had condemned. Not only because of the condemnation, but because of the weak stance he would be portraying.

Respectfully I ask; What should he have done then?

What do you mean? I'm just saying that, from his strategy, condemning white nationalists would have been detrimental to his cause.

What he sould have done? Not run in the first place, not try to court the white nationalist vote, not run for a second term, and not try to appeal to fascists.