2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[Telconi]

In my opinion the whole debate was a disaster. I voted that nobody won, and I must say that Trump and his constant off the wall interruptions and just ricocheting from one topic to the next was disgraceful and flat out eratic. Trump didn’t win but for me I just didn’t see Biden really gain any ground. The whole thing was a three ring circus.

At this point I think 'circus' is the best thing for Trump.

[The Archregimancy]

<wakes up>

<checks news>

<takes a couple of hours to absorb what happened last night>

<decides to offer solution>


America, I stand ready to serve.

Set aside your constitution and appoint me as your leader, and I promise to rule you justly and wisely. There will be no peasant in my realm so poor that they will not have a chicken in their pot every Sunday.

If you're unsure as to whether or not this is an attractive offer, I merely ask that you consider the alternatives.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

<wakes up>

<checks news>

<takes a couple of hours to absorb what happened last night>

<decides to offer solution>


America, I stand ready to serve.

Set aside your constitution and appoint me as your leader, and I promise to rule you justly and wisely. There will be no peasant in my realm so poor that they will not have a chicken in their pot every Sunday.

If you're unsure as to whether or not this is an attractive offer, I merely ask that you consider the alternatives.

Ask me to be your Attorney-General and I will rise to the occasion.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Hundreds of millions of Americans and the system produced these two as the candidates. Tell me more about freedom, democracy, and the eternal quasi-divine wisdom of the founding fathers and the institutions they established.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

In my opinion the whole debate was a disaster. I voted that nobody won, and I must say that Trump and his constant off the wall interruptions and just ricocheting from one topic to the next was disgraceful and flat out eratic. Trump didn’t win but for me I just didn’t see Biden really gain any ground. The whole thing was a three ring circus.

At this point I think 'circus' is the best thing for Trump.

Roll up ladies and gentlemen, see the Trump bite the head off a live chicken...

[Telconi]

At this point I think 'circus' is the best thing for Trump.

Roll up ladies and gentlemen, see the Trump bite the head off a live chicken...

Poor chicken.

[Dumb Ideologies]

At this point I think 'circus' is the best thing for Trump.

Roll up ladies and gentlemen, see the Trump bite the head off a live chicken...

Swap it out for a bat and get him to do it in yellowface.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Did Trump's taxes come up?

No, his taxes don't come up until after he's been audited.

[The Archregimancy]

Joking aside, I've now done an admittedly utterly unscientific morning trawl through a selection of US media representing a range of political perspectives.

Left of centre media outlets are fairly unequivocal that Biden won the debate, while also arguing the entire debate was an embarrassment to US democracy.

However, right of centre media outlets seem to be much more equivocal about Trump; for example, as of 10:00 am UK time, the Fox News home page is running a combination of stories about how 'no one won' or 'the debate format is broken' alongside an opinion piece from Democratic Party congressmen Eric Swalwell arguing Biden won. I see nothing prominent arguing Trump won.

Now, obviously I wasn't able to watch the debate; or rather, I chose sleep over watching the debate. But if my only means of judging who 'won' was the subsequent media coverage, then it's hard to escape the conclusion that - insofar as anyone won that debacle - Biden 'won'.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Joking aside, I've now done an admittedly utterly unscientific morning trawl through a selection of US media representing a range of political perspectives.

Left of centre media outlets are fairly unequivocal that Biden won the debate, while also arguing the entire debate was an embarrassment to US democracy.

However, right of centre media outlets seem to be much more equivocal about Trump; for example, as of 10:00 am UK time, the Fox News home page is running a combination of stories about how 'no one won' or 'the debate format is broken' alongside an opinion piece from Democratic Party congressmen Eric Swalwell arguing Biden won. I see nothing prominent arguing Trump won.

Now, obviously I wasn't able to watch the debate; or rather, I chose sleep over watching the debate. But if my only means of judging who 'won' was the subsequent media coverage, then it's hard to escape the conclusion that - insofar as anyone won that debacle - Biden 'won'.

Well, what does it mean to win a debate?

[Corrian]

Yet you still vote republican.

Yes.

Which, if you're not racist (I don't think you are), makes you only slightly better than the racists themselves if you support the racists.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

At this point I think 'circus' is the best thing for Trump.

Roll up ladies and gentlemen, see the Trump bite the head off a live chicken...

You were not made for the circus. You have to oversell to get bums on seats!

"Roll up, roll up you all! Never seen before, never to be seen again! The Incredible Trump will bite heads off live dinosaurs!"

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[Corrian]

Praying is admirable, I'm still going to encourage you to take action when you have time, be it in the form of volunteering virtually like many do or just other forms of advocacy.

I'm doing that too, specifically trying to get people to register or read their Bibles. Either one should get this country back to democracy.

How does reading a Bible help democracy?

[Telconi]

Yes.

Which, if you're not racist (I don't think you are), makes you only slightly better than the racists themselves if you support the racists.

The purpose of my voting is not to win the approval of you, so I guess that's really not relevant.

[The Blaatschapen]

So, who else is looking forward to the VP debate. Pence is more competent than Trump when it comes to content in debates.

He might even eat Harris alive.

Though that would mean his wife has to be on the podium too.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

So, who else is looking forward to the VP debate. Pence is more competent than Trump when it comes to content in debates.

He might even eat Harris alive.

Though that would mean his wife has to be on the podium too.

I wouldn't call him more competent. Trump had an extremely competent debate performance, and I think Pence will try to copy it. But somewhere, Pence still doesn't understand how Republicans are supposed to argue, so I wonder whether he will pull it off properly.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Good god the second half of this debate is a joke. It's just two morons yelling at each other and calling each other names.

[Nejii]

So, who else is looking forward to the VP debate. Pence is more competent than Trump when it comes to content in debates.

He might even eat Harris alive.

Though that would mean his wife has to be on the podium too.

I wouldn't call him more competent. Trump had an extremely competent debate performance, and I think Pence will try to copy it. But somewhere, Pence still doesn't understand how Republicans are supposed to argue, so I wonder whether he will pull it off properly.

Tread carefully. Be too fair in your analogy and you’ll be accused of being a Trump supporter (i.e Trumpanzee, Trumptard, or Trumpian). As a centrist who tries to follow the fair and compromising road, this has happened to me more times than I care to count. Online and offline alike.

(Note my joking tone of post.)

[Nejii]

Good god the second half of this debate is a joke. It's just two morons yelling at each other and calling each other names.

The name calling was comical to me but the jabbing at family members was just juvenile...

[Telconi]

Good god the second half of this debate is a joke. It's just two morons yelling at each other and calling each other names.

American politics ladies and gentlemen.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

I wouldn't call him more competent. Trump had an extremely competent debate performance, and I think Pence will try to copy it. But somewhere, Pence still doesn't understand how Republicans are supposed to argue, so I wonder whether he will pull it off properly.

Tread carefully. Be too fair in your analogy and you’ll be accused of being a Trump supporter (i.e Trumpanzee, Trumptard, or Trumpian). As a centrist who tries to follow the fair and compromising road, this has happened to me more times than I care to count. Online and offline alike.

(Note my joking tone of post.)

Oh, I want to make crystal clear that I am not trying to be fair. Trump did abysmally from an argumentative standpoint, but that's not what he is trying to do. He's an ur-fascist, and he simply wants to get his propaganda across. He is not there to convince anyone via reasoned debate. He is there to look strong and be undaunted, and that's what he has done. He has not convinced anyone, but that's not what he is trying to do.

It's a mistake liberals and centrists make, that everyone is coming to the table to debate, and the person who had the worst arguments lost. That's not how this works anymore, and it hasn't for the past eight years.

[The Huskar Social Union]

So what was the debate like? I was sleeping so didnt see it but i heard Biden just told Trump to shut up at one point because he wouldnt stop interrupting

[Corrian]

Which, if you're not racist (I don't think you are), makes you only slightly better than the racists themselves if you support the racists.

The purpose of my voting is not to win the approval of you, so I guess that's really not relevant.

Fair enough, I guess.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Good god the second half of this debate is a joke. It's just two morons yelling at each other and calling each other names.

The name calling was comical to me but the jabbing at family members was just juvenile...

When you are debating a nepotist, calling out family members is fair.

[Corrian]

So what was the debate like? I was sleeping so didnt see it but i heard Biden just told Trump to shut up at one point because he wouldnt stop interrupting

He told him to shut up about 3 times, called him a clown, and said he's the worst President we've ever had.