2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[The Rich Port]

As Sedg put it:

”Kexholm and Karelia" and "Aureumterra" were both your nations. Don't lie to us, and don't waste our time. Both accounts were correctly deleted for posting past ban.

Maybe if he denies it enough it will mean more people will agree with him

Then again, that is today's climate: lie big enough and enough times that people will just have to believe the lie.

Of course, that usually hinges on enough people wanting to be deluded enough into believing the lie.

[Cordel One]

As Sedg put it:

”Kexholm and Karelia" and "Aureumterra" were both your nations. Don't lie to us, and don't waste our time. Both accounts were correctly deleted for posting past ban.

Now this is an interesting plot twist. An amateur astroturfing effort exposed right here in our browsergame forum. I'll bring the popcorn.

[Kowani]

Refugees from tyranny agree: Authoritarian threat in America now is from the left

If my accounts of family members under Mao hasn’t convinced you, maybe refugees from Eastern Bloc countries will? Then again, I shouldn’t expect too much from the same people who apologize for Castro

Aren't you Icelandic?

You're thinking of Aurumterra.
KK has mentioned being Chinese multiple times.

[Alcala-Cordel]

As Sedg put it:

Now this is an interesting plot twist. An amateur astroturfing effort exposed right here in our browsergame forum. I'll bring the popcorn.

Thank you for the popcorn, individual who is definitely not me! I agree with you that communism is good btw

[Aureumterra III]

As Sedg put it:

Now this is an interesting plot twist. An amateur astroturfing effort exposed right here in our browsergame forum. I'll bring the popcorn.

I’m sure someone who’s actually trying to astroturf would make attempts to mask their IP or something

Shared nations mess things up

[Eukaryotic Cells]

Now this is an interesting plot twist. An amateur astroturfing effort exposed right here in our browsergame forum. I'll bring the popcorn.

I’m sure someone who’s actually trying to astroturf would make attempts to mask their IP or something

Shared nations mess things up

There are tons of other browser fingerprinting methods, in addition to checking the IP address.

They probably only check IPs though, if I had to guess.

[Cordel One]

Now this is an interesting plot twist. An amateur astroturfing effort exposed right here in our browsergame forum. I'll bring the popcorn.

I’m sure someone who’s actually trying to astroturf would make attempts to mask their IP or something

Shared nations mess things up

That would be a mistake in hindsight, wouldn't it?

[Eukaryotic Cells]

I’m sure someone who’s actually trying to astroturf would make attempts to mask their IP or something

Shared nations mess things up

That would be a mistake in hindsight, wouldn't it?

Unless you're super careful and deliberate, it's a bit hard to hide your identity.

Hope this hypothetical astroturfer never mixed identities or used the same browser between different sessions.

[Thermodolia]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20200928_IL.pdf

Biden leads 53-40 in new Illinois poll.

A 13 point lead in a state that Biden should be up 20 is not a good sign

[Aureumterra III]

I said the same thing on the socialism thread and I’m saying it now, the "left" isn’t a thing, and neither is the "right"

A Communist and a Nazi have more in common with each other than the communist does to an anarchist, or the Nazi to an ancap libertarian

Communism has never been an authoritarian ideology, it has much more in common with anarchism than Nazism as both advocate for the abolition of the state.

lol

[Gravlen]

Refugees from tyranny agree: Authoritarian threat in America now is from the left

If my accounts of family members under Mao hasn’t convinced you, maybe refugees from Eastern Bloc countries will? Then again, I shouldn’t expect too much from the same people who apologize for Castro

The AuthRight has a significantly bigger presence in US politics than the AuthLeft, what the hell are they smoking?

Poorly written opinion piece. The conclusions aren't shown to follow from the premise, and it all could (as you say) apply in an even stronger fashion to the political right.

[San Lumen]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20200928_IL.pdf

Biden leads 53-40 in new Illinois poll.

A 13 point lead in a state that Biden should be up 20 is not a good sign

Its going to be higher than that. I think Biden gets close to 60 in Illinois.

https://poll.qu.edu/georgia/release-det ... aseID=3676

New Georgia poll from Quinnipiac has Biden leading 50-47, Ossoff leading Perdue 49-48 and Warnock leading Loeffler 31-23. Former President Carter recently endorsed Warnock.

[Thermodolia]

https://www.jlpartners.co.uk/us-polling

new national poll has Biden leading 51-41. It also has a very large sample size of 5000.

An Ipsos poll has Biden up 12 nationally 50-38

[Cannot think of a name]

https://www.jlpartners.co.uk/us-polling

new national poll has Biden leading 51-41. It also has a very large sample size of 5000.

An Ipsos poll has Biden up 12 nationally 50-38

I guess the talkie heads have decided that Pennsylvania gets to decide this time.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Refugees from tyranny agree: Authoritarian threat in America now is from the left

If my accounts of family members under Mao hasn’t convinced you, maybe refugees from Eastern Bloc countries will? Then again, I shouldn’t expect too much from the same people who apologize for Castro

Aren't you Icelandic?

I’m Chinese-American, my grandfather was a cultural revolution survivor, and my dad also lived through it but he was too young to exactly remember. My hatred of communism comes from the stuff my grandfather had told me, including "they (the communists) killed many people for pure fun and sport)

[Thermodolia]

Aren't you Icelandic?

I’m Chinese-American, my grandfather was a cultural revolution survivor, and my dad also lived through it but he was too young to exactly remember. My hatred of communism comes from the stuff my grandfather had told me, including "they (the communists) killed many people for pure fun and sport)

You do realize that’s not exclusive to communism right? US troops have killed people for fun on multiple occasions

[Post War America]

Aren't you Icelandic?

I’m Chinese-American, my grandfather was a cultural revolution survivor, and my dad also lived through it but he was too young to exactly remember. My hatred of communism comes from the stuff my grandfather had told me, including "they (the communists) killed many people for pure fun and sport)

Funnily enough I have actually personally lived in the People's Republic of China, under its most powerful leader since Mao, and didn't really see cartoonishly evil mass murder so much as the banal actions typical of any Imperialist state.

[Kazarogkai]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/20200928_IL.pdf

Biden leads 53-40 in new Illinois poll.

A 13 point lead in a state that Biden should be up 20 is not a good sign

Shows the lack of enthusiasm most voters have in Biden. Low enthusiasm, low turnout. Honestly the primaries and early voting are probably showing false signs. Maybe before covid voter turnout was going to be high, now though? Can't see it going above 50% this time around, worse case scenario 40%.

[Thermodolia]

A 13 point lead in a state that Biden should be up 20 is not a good sign

Shows the lack of enthusiasm most voters have in Biden. Low enthusiasm, low turnout. Honestly the primaries and early voting are probably showing false signs. Maybe before covid voter turnout was going to be high, now though? Can't see it going above 50% this time around, worse case scenario 40%.

Or not.

The poll has a B/C rating from 538. Also the low amount of undecideds is showing that enthusiasm is quite high.

Also a lot of the primaries and early voting where held during COVID so I’d say that Covid has zero effect at this point

[Kexholm Karelia]

I’m Chinese-American, my grandfather was a cultural revolution survivor, and my dad also lived through it but he was too young to exactly remember. My hatred of communism comes from the stuff my grandfather had told me, including "they (the communists) killed many people for pure fun and sport)

Funnily enough I have actually personally lived in the People's Republic of China, under its most powerful leader since Mao, and didn't really see cartoonishly evil mass murder so much as the banal actions typical of any Imperialist state.

I do admit many people had hope when Deng was in power, and to some extent he did reform and move on from the Maoist tyranny, but his successors ruined everything and now Winnie is LARPing as the second coming of Mao, doing everything from sterilizing innocent Uyghurs to gassing protestors in Hong Kong.

I always find it amusing when the same people condemning America police brutality turn a blind eye and/or defend the same things happening in Hong Kong, because "America bad China good."

[Thermodolia]

Funnily enough I have actually personally lived in the People's Republic of China, under its most powerful leader since Mao, and didn't really see cartoonishly evil mass murder so much as the banal actions typical of any Imperialist state.

I do admit many people had hope when Deng was in power, and to some extent he did reform and move on from the Maoist tyranny, but his successors ruined everything and now Winnie is LARPing as the second coming of Mao, doing everything from sterilizing innocent Uyghurs to gassing protestors in Hong Kong.

I always find it amusing when the same people condemning America police brutality turn a blind eye and/or defend the same things happening in Hong Kong, because "America bad China good."

I’ve seen actually none of that. Yet another made up strawman from you

[Aureumterra III]

Funnily enough I have actually personally lived in the People's Republic of China, under its most powerful leader since Mao, and didn't really see cartoonishly evil mass murder so much as the banal actions typical of any Imperialist state.

I do admit many people had hope when Deng was in power, and to some extent he did reform and move on from the Maoist tyranny, but his successors ruined everything and now Winnie is LARPing as the second coming of Mao, doing everything from sterilizing innocent Uyghurs to gassing protestors in Hong Kong.

I always find it amusing when the same people condemning America police brutality turn a blind eye and/or defend the same things happening in Hong Kong, because "America bad China good."

Most people criticizing US police also criticize Chinese police, from my observations. Tankies aren’t as widespread as they used to be in the 90s

[Necroghastia]

Funnily enough I have actually personally lived in the People's Republic of China, under its most powerful leader since Mao, and didn't really see cartoonishly evil mass murder so much as the banal actions typical of any Imperialist state.

I do admit many people had hope when Deng was in power, and to some extent he did reform and move on from the Maoist tyranny, but his successors ruined everything and now Winnie is LARPing as the second coming of Mao, doing everything from sterilizing innocent Uyghurs to gassing protestors in Hong Kong.

I always find it amusing when the same people condemning America police brutality turn a blind eye and/or defend the same things happening in Hong Kong, because "America bad China good."

I find it amusing when the people who claim to have a problem with Chinese authoritarianism wholeheartedly endorse American authoritarianism because its figurehead gives lip service to the idea of being against China but is by all accounts incredibly inspired by what Xi does.

[Post War America]

Funnily enough I have actually personally lived in the People's Republic of China, under its most powerful leader since Mao, and didn't really see cartoonishly evil mass murder so much as the banal actions typical of any Imperialist state.

I do admit many people had hope when Deng was in power, and to some extent he did reform and move on from the Maoist tyranny, but his successors ruined everything and now Winnie is LARPing as the second coming of Mao, doing everything from sterilizing innocent Uyghurs to gassing protestors in Hong Kong.

I always find it amusing when the same people condemning America police brutality turn a blind eye and/or defend the same things happening in Hong Kong, because "America bad China good."

Xi is dogshit to be sure, but the point I'm making is how often Westerners are willing to overlook the fact that what China is doing now has eerily similar connections to Imperialism, with the Uighurs specifically being treated remarking similar to first nations folk in the 19th century.

[Ngelmish]

Here's Where The Candidates Stand Before The First Presidential Debate.

I think the First Debate won't have as big of an impact as some may say: we have far less undecided voters this go around, meaning both candidates have little room to grow their support more. However, that's more bad news for Trump given his base is smaller than Biden's. That said, Trump is bound to turn up the heat: he's bound to attack and hit Biden hard on his pre-VP Record as well as the moderator. Either way, this debate could make or break the candidates, especially if Biden gaffes badly or Trump comes off as irrational and paranoid.

The game here is literally only whether or not Biden manages to significantly garble something in a way that feeds the "senile" framing. Otherwise Donald will certainly get flustered and childish, but not bleed much support from it. It probably does still hurt him on the margins, but when he's already down, that's sort of neither her nor there. The debate is Biden's to lose, and he'd better not fuck it up.