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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
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Too Early to Say
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Total votes : 168

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:49 pm

Kannap wrote:
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*does jedi mind trick. You will do it.


Even less likely than before now

It was a joke

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Postby Telconi » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:56 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Oh my...

As scummy as that is it’s unfortunately quite legal.


It's really not surprising, discouraging your opposition is as much a part of campaign as encouraging your own side these days.
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Postby Organized States » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:01 pm

Telconi wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:As scummy as that is it’s unfortunately quite legal.


It's really not surprising, discouraging your opposition is as much a part of campaign as encouraging your own side these days.

Imagine believing that 41.1 million Americans constituted the opposition because of the color of their skin.
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Postby Uiiop » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:03 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
*does jedi mind trick. You will do it.


Even less likely than before now

I'll pay you 20 dollars post election. :P
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:05 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Even less likely than before now

I'll pay you 20 dollars post election. :P

5,000 and we got a deal.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:08 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Even less likely than before now

It was a joke


Not a very good one
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Postby Kannap » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:09 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Even less likely than before now

I'll pay you 20 dollars post election. :P


Looks like you left off three zeroes and a comma.
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Postby Nejii » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:18 pm

Can the Borg, Reapers, Advent, Tyranids, or whoever just hurry up and harvest and-or assimilate humanity? That’d be great. :bow:
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Postby Imperialisium » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:19 pm

Organized States wrote:
Telconi wrote:
It's really not surprising, discouraging your opposition is as much a part of campaign as encouraging your own side these days.

Imagine believing that 41.1 million Americans constituted the opposition because of the color of their skin.


That’s extremely hard to work into an algorithm. So I doubt it was skin colour based. Then again I won’t say impossible either. But every campaign since forever has had target audiences it wants to increase, decrease, persuade, or deter. So, nothing really novel there besides how efficiently parties and regimes can accumulate vast sums of data on an individual. Which is terrifying.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:20 pm

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MN Congresswoman Angie Craig has filed a lawsuit against the stupid law invalidating the November election and triggering a special in February due to the death of the legal marijuana candidate.

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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:17 pm

Most voters expect to wait past election night to find out winner. This could help alleviate some anxiety for some people, well, maybe not us political junkies. That said, here's the breakdown:

1. 66% believe the winner of the election will be announced after Election Day while 20% expect it to come Election night.

2. A plurality, 45%, believe the results of the election will come out within a week, with 19% saying the results will be announced the following day while 26% believe it will be 2-7 days until the results are announced; 21% of voters think it'll remain murky beyond a week.

3. 53% of voters are somewhat to very concern that Trump will declare victory before the full results will come in. That 53% is around the same number of people that will never vote for Trump though that number isn't from this poll: that's just my opinion on other polls showing 51-53% of people saying they'll never vote for Trump.

All of this comes as a Judge in Georgia orders Georgia officials to provide backup paper poll books ahead of election. This should help reduce the waiting time at polling places, which plagued Georgia back in June. The judge also ordered the officials to have emergency paper ballots on hand in case the machines malfunction.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:19 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Most voters expect to wait past election night to find out winner. This could help alleviate some anxiety for some people, well, maybe not us political junkies. That said, here's the breakdown:

1. 66% believe the winner of the election will be announced after Election Day while 20% expect it to come Election night.

2. A plurality, 45%, believe the results of the election will come out within a week, with 19% saying the results will be announced the following day while 26% believe it won't be 2-7 days until the results are announced; 21% of voters think it'll remain murky beyond a week.

3. 53% of voters are somewhat to very concern that Trump will declare victory before the full results will come in. That 53% is around the same number of people that will never vote for Trump though that number isn't from this poll: that's just my opinion on other polls showing 51-53% of people saying they'll never vote for Trump.

All of this comes as a Judge in Georgia orders Georgia officials to provide backup paper poll books ahead of election. This should help reduce the waiting time at polling places, which plagued Georgia back in June. The judge also ordered the officials to have emergency paper ballots on hand in case the machines malfunction.

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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:21 pm

Farnhamia wrote:It won't be 2-7 days or it will be 2-7 days?


Yeah, should be will. No, not the guy either...

I'll pay you with a danish later for fixing my grammar mistake :p
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:44 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Most voters expect to wait past election night to find out winner. This could help alleviate some anxiety for some people, well, maybe not us political junkies. That said, here's the breakdown:

1. 66% believe the winner of the election will be announced after Election Day while 20% expect it to come Election night.

2. A plurality, 45%, believe the results of the election will come out within a week, with 19% saying the results will be announced the following day while 26% believe it will be 2-7 days until the results are announced; 21% of voters think it'll remain murky beyond a week.

3. 53% of voters are somewhat to very concern that Trump will declare victory before the full results will come in. That 53% is around the same number of people that will never vote for Trump though that number isn't from this poll: that's just my opinion on other polls showing 51-53% of people saying they'll never vote for Trump.

All of this comes as a Judge in Georgia orders Georgia officials to provide backup paper poll books ahead of election. This should help reduce the waiting time at polling places, which plagued Georgia back in June. The judge also ordered the officials to have emergency paper ballots on hand in case the machines malfunction.


Speaking for myself, I am going to be a massive ball of anxiety on election night and the weeks after regardless.

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:55 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Most voters expect to wait past election night to find out winner. This could help alleviate some anxiety for some people, well, maybe not us political junkies. That said, here's the breakdown:

1. 66% believe the winner of the election will be announced after Election Day while 20% expect it to come Election night.

2. A plurality, 45%, believe the results of the election will come out within a week, with 19% saying the results will be announced the following day while 26% believe it will be 2-7 days until the results are announced; 21% of voters think it'll remain murky beyond a week.

3. 53% of voters are somewhat to very concern that Trump will declare victory before the full results will come in. That 53% is around the same number of people that will never vote for Trump though that number isn't from this poll: that's just my opinion on other polls showing 51-53% of people saying they'll never vote for Trump.

All of this comes as a Judge in Georgia orders Georgia officials to provide backup paper poll books ahead of election. This should help reduce the waiting time at polling places, which plagued Georgia back in June. The judge also ordered the officials to have emergency paper ballots on hand in case the machines malfunction.


Speaking for myself, I am going to be a massive ball of anxiety on election night and the weeks after regardless.


As will much of the world, it's not even the result that bothers me so much as the screaming headlines and shouting back and forth for the week after the election.

My fervent hope is that come January, as soon as the inauguration is complete, Twitter switches off Trump's feed given it's no longer of national import.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:57 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Speaking for myself, I am going to be a massive ball of anxiety on election night and the weeks after regardless.


As will much of the world, it's not even the result that bothers me so much as the screaming headlines and shouting back and forth for the week after the election.

My fervent hope is that come January, as soon as the inauguration is complete, Twitter switches off Trump's feed given it's no longer of national import.


Same. Biden winning won't fix everything, the discourse in this country will not just be completely vitriolic, but quite likely violent. And that is if Biden wins, I've definitely expressed my idea that Trump probably still holds a 30-40% chance.
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Postby Bombadil » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:09 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
As will much of the world, it's not even the result that bothers me so much as the screaming headlines and shouting back and forth for the week after the election.

My fervent hope is that come January, as soon as the inauguration is complete, Twitter switches off Trump's feed given it's no longer of national import.


Same. Biden winning won't fix everything, the discourse in this country will not just be completely vitriolic, but quite likely violent. And that is if Biden wins, I've definitely expressed my idea that Trump probably still holds a 30-40% chance.


My rational mind says he can't win on the numbers, but my emotional mind fears he'll somehow win through the Electoral College. However I think the real danger is he manages to essentially shut down ballot counting somehow.. or discount them through the courts.

Still Dwayne 'the Rock' Johnson endorsed Biden yesterday so maybe we're good.
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Postby Heloin » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:12 pm

Bombadil wrote:Still Dwayne 'the Rock' Johnson endorsed Biden yesterday so maybe we're good.

If that calming smile doesn't reassure people I don't know what else can.

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:15 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Same. Biden winning won't fix everything, the discourse in this country will not just be completely vitriolic, but quite likely violent. And that is if Biden wins, I've definitely expressed my idea that Trump probably still holds a 30-40% chance.


My rational mind says he can't win on the numbers, but my emotional mind fears he'll somehow win through the Electoral College. However I think the real danger is he manages to essentially shut down ballot counting somehow.. or discount them through the courts.

Still Dwayne 'the Rock' Johnson endorsed Biden yesterday so maybe we're good.


Both your fears are totally rational and mirror my own fears. The Rock is a good endorsement, but dear god, he needs to stop playing the same character in every movie. Unrelated, but c'mon, Dwayne, do better.

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Postby Ngelmish » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:18 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Most voters expect to wait past election night to find out winner. This could help alleviate some anxiety for some people, well, maybe not us political junkies. That said, here's the breakdown:

1. 66% believe the winner of the election will be announced after Election Day while 20% expect it to come Election night.

2. A plurality, 45%, believe the results of the election will come out within a week, with 19% saying the results will be announced the following day while 26% believe it will be 2-7 days until the results are announced; 21% of voters think it'll remain murky beyond a week.

3. 53% of voters are somewhat to very concern that Trump will declare victory before the full results will come in. That 53% is around the same number of people that will never vote for Trump though that number isn't from this poll: that's just my opinion on other polls showing 51-53% of people saying they'll never vote for Trump.

All of this comes as a Judge in Georgia orders Georgia officials to provide backup paper poll books ahead of election. This should help reduce the waiting time at polling places, which plagued Georgia back in June. The judge also ordered the officials to have emergency paper ballots on hand in case the machines malfunction.


Speaking for myself, I am going to be a massive ball of anxiety on election night and the weeks after regardless.


Well, don't forget to overstock on liquor. For my part, I'm going to be watching Florida closely. If Biden clearly pulls off a win there on election night, that's a very good sign that he'll probably clinch the whole thing. Failing that, yeah, I'm just gonna be glued to the results anyway.

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:18 pm

If Senate Republicans don’t fill, the seat, I probably will sit out the election. They would then be throwing the best chance to secure conservatism in the government for decades in the trash, in that case, so I don’t see why they would deserve my vote
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Postby Neanderthaland » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:20 pm

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:21 pm

Ngelmish wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
Speaking for myself, I am going to be a massive ball of anxiety on election night and the weeks after regardless.


Well, don't forget to overstock on liquor. For my part, I'm going to be watching Florida closely. If Biden clearly pulls off a win there on election night, that's a very good sign that he'll probably clinch the whole thing. Failing that, yeah, I'm just gonna be glued to the results anyway.


I need to work on an "Election Night Drinking Bingo." We could fill it with such fun tiles like drink every time;

Florida is too close to call
Somebody on TV references turnout
"Suburban Women" is mentioned
"The Polls Were Wrong" is mentioned

(And many many more).

And take a shot every time Trump takes a swing state.
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Postby Ngelmish » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:22 pm

Hey, add at least five more things that'll happen every five minutes, at least, and I might get some sleep before anything definitive gets called after all!

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:24 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:If Senate Republicans don’t fill, the seat, I probably will sit out the election. They would then be throwing the best chance to secure conservatism in the government for decades in the trash, in that case, so I don’t see why they would deserve my vote


Pretty sure they'll fill the seat unless enough Republicans grow a conscience, which is unlikely.
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