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2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
27
16%
No
61
36%
I Don't Know
36
21%
Too Early to Say
44
26%
 
Total votes : 168

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Obliterate any identifying information and throw it in the garbage.

says the person who hates the very idea of democracy.

My idea above was better.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:07 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Obliterate any identifying information and throw it in the garbage.

says the person who hates the very idea of democracy.


Why do you feel the need to lie all the time?
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:07 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:says the person who hates the very idea of democracy.


Why do you feel the need to lie all the time?

and why do you constantly deny your own words?

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Postby Telconi » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Why do you feel the need to lie all the time?

and why do you constantly deny your own words?


I don't, but as usual our discussion doesn't have anything to do with reality, and instead is just whatever nonsense you pretend to know.
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-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Cannot think of a name
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:19 pm

Cisairse wrote:My ballot came, some weeks earlier than I expected.

Who should I vote for, NSG?

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"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Telconi » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:19 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Cisairse wrote:My ballot came, some weeks earlier than I expected.

Who should I vote for, NSG?

Image


Better than the choices we've been given thus far.
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-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:24 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:

Pizza won't do anything, the government will collapse and fall into anarchy.

It gets my vote. #Pizza2020
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:26 pm

Wow. Republican voter suppression is well underweigh in NC and Penn. From a TV news bit......

If your mail in ballot is not in the security sleve toss.
Only one collection box per county in an area which has millions.
And our fake pandemic option. You have to have a witness sign the ballot.

An interesting option?

The voting has not clear winner. The house deadlocks on the President and the Senate deadlocks on the Vice......
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Postby Organized States » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:27 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Aight Cisairse, you got three golden NS candidates to go for. Choose wisely.

I dunno, I think Zurk would make a good president.

I don't think Cisairse would ever chose me because I would drop waaay too many bodies for his liking.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:28 pm

Debate format is available.


Tl:dr: No handshake/elbow bump, no masks on the candidates or the moderator, limited crowd (who will be tested), no spin room.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:29 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Wow. Republican voter suppression is well underweigh in NC and Penn. From a TV news bit......

If your mail in ballot is not in the security sleve toss.
Only one collection box per county in an area which has millions.
And our fake pandemic option. You have to have a witness sign the ballot.

An interesting option?

The voting has not clear winner. The house deadlocks on the President and the Senate deadlocks on the Vice......

How are they supposed to verify the witness signature? Also, doesn't that invalidate the right for your vote to remain secret?
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Kexholm Karelia
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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:31 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Aight Cisairse, you got three golden NS candidates to go for. Choose wisely.

Me


I can win the woke crowd by running as the first Asian-American
Right wing conservative
Media is the enemy of the people
CCP delenda est
orange man bad. diversity is our strength. real communism hasn’t been tried yet. the hong kong protestors are paid by the cia. antifa protestors are good, hong kong protestors are american bootlickers. China is a better alternative to America. uyghur genocide isn’t real, and it is western propaganda. Trump should not have killed Soleimani. gender is a social construct invented by white supremacists.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:32 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Aight Cisairse, you got three golden NS candidates to go for. Choose wisely.

Me


I can win the woke crowd by running as the first Asian-American

Andrew Yang says hi.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:32 pm

Kowani wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Me


I can win the woke crowd by running as the first Asian-American

Andrew Yang says hi.

I hope he runs for mayor of NYC.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:33 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:Wow. Republican voter suppression is well underweigh in NC and Penn. From a TV news bit......

If your mail in ballot is not in the security sleve toss.
Only one collection box per county in an area which has millions.
And our fake pandemic option. You have to have a witness sign the ballot.

An interesting option?

The voting has not clear winner. The house deadlocks on the President and the Senate deadlocks on the Vice......

How are they supposed to verify the witness signature? Also, doesn't that invalidate the right for your vote to remain secret?


You would think. Of course it’s all about protecting the election. :roll:

This is an SC effort.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/09/24/witness ... er-appeal/
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:34 pm

https://twitter.com/Darien4Commish/stat ... 14690?s=20

This is a relatively obscure poll for a local race in Douglas County, Colorado that supposedly shows Trump up one in this very red county in the Denver metro area. Johnson in 1964 was the last Democrat to win here. If trump is struggling in counties like this he is in very deep trouble.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:37 pm

Kowani wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Me


I can win the woke crowd by running as the first Asian-American

Andrew Yang says hi.

This is always where that hacky critique of people 'just winning because they're x' falls apart, the several people of that classification who already ran and didn't even make a dent. You'd think if just being x was enough they'd at least make a showing. Also sort of ignores how shut out of the process whoever they're trying to dismiss have been. Like, if we hadn't elected 43 straight white dudes in a row, novelty wouldn't be a factor.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:39 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Kowani wrote:Andrew Yang says hi.

This is always where that hacky critique of people 'just winning because they're x' falls apart, the several people of that classification who already ran and didn't even make a dent. You'd think if just being x was enough they'd at least make a showing. Also sort of ignores how shut out of the process whoever they're trying to dismiss have been. Like, if we hadn't elected 43 straight white dudes in a row, novelty wouldn't be a factor.

Well, not in a row.
Buchanan was there.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:40 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:How are they supposed to verify the witness signature? Also, doesn't that invalidate the right for your vote to remain secret?


You would think. Of course it’s all about protecting the election. :roll:

This is an SC effort.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/09/24/witness ... er-appeal/

Holy shit, that requirement was already in place.

Also, it seems from the article you have to sign the envelope, the ever valuable 'secrecy' or 'security' envelope or whatever they're calling it. There was a bit on the talkie box about how the ballot and the envelope both had postage on it so that people could make the mistake, another big...why?
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Kexholm Karelia » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:40 pm

Kowani wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Me


I can win the woke crowd by running as the first Asian-American

Andrew Yang says hi.

He didn’t become president, he can’t be the first Asian American president
Right wing conservative
Media is the enemy of the people
CCP delenda est
orange man bad. diversity is our strength. real communism hasn’t been tried yet. the hong kong protestors are paid by the cia. antifa protestors are good, hong kong protestors are american bootlickers. China is a better alternative to America. uyghur genocide isn’t real, and it is western propaganda. Trump should not have killed Soleimani. gender is a social construct invented by white supremacists.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:41 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Andrew Yang says hi.

He didn’t become president, he can’t be the first Asian American president

Work your way back through that and see if you can find where you made a wrong turn.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby No State Here » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:42 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Aight Cisairse, you got three golden NS candidates to go for. Choose wisely.

I don’t want to imagine a single person who posts here with that much power… :shock:
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:42 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:He didn’t become president, he can’t be the first Asian American president

Work your way back through that and see if you can find where you made a wrong turn.


Hopefully Yang runs for mayor of NYC.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:43 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Andrew Yang says hi.

He didn’t become president, he can’t be the first Asian American president

I assume there was an a logical statement in there somewhere.

No State Here wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Aight Cisairse, you got three golden NS candidates to go for. Choose wisely.

I don’t want to imagine a single person who posts here with that much power… :shock:

Oh, come on, I’d be a great political overlord.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:45 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Kowani wrote:Andrew Yang says hi.

He didn’t become president, he can’t be the first Asian American president

Yang could still run in 2024, which means he has a chance.
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