2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[Greater Miami Shores]

I mean, you've said as much several times. Along with advocacy for domestic terrorism. Don't think everyone just forgot about that after you went on break for a few months.

There was nothing to debate about, in the actual post S l quoted me on lol. I seconded T B F well wishes to Libertarian Republican Ron Paul, and I added support for Libertarian Republican Nikki Haley and President Trump, I think it was the Trump Part and the Hikki Haley part S L did not like to hear.

[Necroghastia]

I mean, you've said as much several times. Along with advocacy for domestic terrorism. Don't think everyone just forgot about that after you went on break for a few months.

And the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell...

A statement being factually correct doesn't make it relevant, or novel. Lumen's insistence that my contempt of democracy is either relevant or novel is just foolish nonsense.

It very much is, considering you tried to deny that imprisoning someone for election interference is not the same as political imprisonment.

[Thermodolia]

So why is it so important that the GOP disregard the will of the people and their own precedent to force this through rather than waiting until after the guaranteed Trump Landslide?

There is no precedent. The GOP controlled the senate in both cases. For a party to block their own president's nomination to wait for an election is unprecedented.
Additionally there's the strategic reality that in both cases the democrats benefited from waiting, since doing so was a political issue that boosted their base's turnout, which is exactly why republicans should push it through. Both to deny Biden a campaign issue and to provoke the democrats into throwing more tantrums that will lose them even more sane people.

Except 52% of the nation wants to wait until after the election. Only 39% say to do it now. That leaves 9% undecided. That’s not a good thing for the republicans at all

[Telconi]

And the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell...

A statement being factually correct doesn't make it relevant, or novel. Lumen's insistence that my contempt of democracy is either relevant or novel is just foolish nonsense.

It very much is, considering you tried to deny that imprisoning someone for election interference is not the same as political imprisonment.

I did?

[Telconi]

There is no precedent. The GOP controlled the senate in both cases. For a party to block their own president's nomination to wait for an election is unprecedented.
Additionally there's the strategic reality that in both cases the democrats benefited from waiting, since doing so was a political issue that boosted their base's turnout, which is exactly why republicans should push it through. Both to deny Biden a campaign issue and to provoke the democrats into throwing more tantrums that will lose them even more sane people.

Except 52% of the nation wants to wait until after the election. Only 39% say to do it now. That leaves 9% undecided. That’s not a good thing for the republicans at all

If he's behind, doubt Trump is going to gather enough voters by waiting to make any difference.

[Aclion]

There is no precedent. The GOP controlled the senate in both cases. For a party to block their own president's nomination to wait for an election is unprecedented.
Additionally there's the strategic reality that in both cases the democrats benefited from waiting, since doing so was a political issue that boosted their base's turnout, which is exactly why republicans should push it through. Both to deny Biden a campaign issue and to provoke the democrats into throwing more tantrums that will lose them even more sane people.

Except 52% of the nation wants to wait until after the election. Only 39% say to do it now. That leaves 9% undecided. That’s not a good thing for the republicans at all

And how many of those 52% are trump voters who will switch to Biden if republicans push it through. How many people who would have voted for biden are going to switch to trump if he pushes it through now?

[Washington Resistance Army]

There is no precedent. The GOP controlled the senate in both cases. For a party to block their own president's nomination to wait for an election is unprecedented.
Additionally there's the strategic reality that in both cases the democrats benefited from waiting, since doing so was a political issue that boosted their base's turnout, which is exactly why republicans should push it through. Both to deny Biden a campaign issue and to provoke the democrats into throwing more tantrums that will lose them even more sane people.

Except 52% of the nation wants to wait until after the election. Only 39% say to do it now. That leaves 9% undecided. That’s not a good thing for the republicans at all

Sure it is. Imagine all the potential opportunity this offers. Roberts and his wishy-washy self doesn't matter anymore, we can start laying down real precedent again.

[Thermodolia]

Except 52% of the nation wants to wait until after the election. Only 39% say to do it now. That leaves 9% undecided. That’s not a good thing for the republicans at all

Sure it is. Imagine all the potential opportunity this offers. Roberts and his wishy-washy self doesn't matter anymore, we can start laying down real precedent again.

I mean from an election stand point. Not a court stand point

[Necroghastia]

It very much is, considering you tried to deny that imprisoning someone for election interference is not the same as political imprisonment.

I did?

What else could you possibly have meant?

And here I thought you opposed political imprisonment.

This is not political imprisonment. It’s willful and deliberate criminal inference in an election.

Says you.

[Thermodolia]

Except 52% of the nation wants to wait until after the election. Only 39% say to do it now. That leaves 9% undecided. That’s not a good thing for the republicans at all

And how many of those 52% are trump voters who will switch to Biden if republicans push it through. How many people who would have voted for biden are going to switch to trump if he pushes it through now?

Nearly all of them. Biden is up 50% nationally. So it’s not hard to see 2% more for Biden.

The republicans are trading the White House and senate for the court.

[Telconi]

I did?

What else could you possibly have meant?

And here I thought you opposed political imprisonment.

Says you.

I could have meant many things, what I actually did mean is that Lumen, to my knowledge, has not become a federal prosecutor, judge, and the dozen members of a jury overnight. Therefore him saying someone is guilty of a crime is utterly meaningless.

[Telconi]

And how many of those 52% are trump voters who will switch to Biden if republicans push it through. How many people who would have voted for biden are going to switch to trump if he pushes it through now?

Nearly all of them. Biden is up 50% nationally. So it’s not hard to see 2% more for Biden.

The republicans are trading the White House and senate for the court.

Might be a good trade TBH.

[Celritannia]

And how many of those 52% are trump voters who will switch to Biden if republicans push it through. How many people who would have voted for biden are going to switch to trump if he pushes it through now?

Nearly all of them. Biden is up 50% nationally. So it’s not hard to see 2% more for Biden.

The republicans are trading the White House and senate for the court.

It does seem like this election has turned into a poker game.

[Aclion]

And how many of those 52% are trump voters who will switch to Biden if republicans push it through. How many people who would have voted for biden are going to switch to trump if he pushes it through now?

Nearly all of them.

All of the the 52% of people who want Trump to wait until after the election are Trump voters who will vote for Biden if he pushes it through? That is absolutely absurd.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Nearly all of them. Biden is up 50% nationally. So it’s not hard to see 2% more for Biden.

The republicans are trading the White House and senate for the court.

Might be a good trade TBH.

It's a very good trade. The White House and Senate are up for grabs every few years, the court isn't. In fact I think the average president usually only gets one or two appointments. RBG staying on when she should have retired years ago fucked everything up.

[Thermodolia]

Nearly all of them. Biden is up 50% nationally. So it’s not hard to see 2% more for Biden.

The republicans are trading the White House and senate for the court.

Might be a good trade TBH.

I didn’t say that it wasn’t. But the fact remains that they are trading the White House and senate for the court. Which isn’t bad at all

[Necroghastia]

What else could you possibly have meant?

I could have meant many things, what I actually did mean is that Lumen, to my knowledge, has not become a federal prosecutor, judge, and the dozen members of a jury overnight. Therefore him saying someone is guilty of a crime is utterly meaningless.

Just as meaningless as anything else on this site. I don't know what kind of point you're trying to make. That the court of public opinion is a thing that's separate from actual courts? Wow. Soooooo shocking.

[Telconi]

I could have meant many things, what I actually did mean is that Lumen, to my knowledge, has not become a federal prosecutor, judge, and the dozen members of a jury overnight. Therefore him saying someone is guilty of a crime is utterly meaningless.

Just as meaningless as anything else on this site. I don't know what kind of point you're trying to make. That the court of public opinion is a thing that's separate from actual courts? Wow. Soooooo shocking.

I regret to hear that my revelation has shocked you.

[Celritannia]

A pretty good poll tracker by The Guardian, with maps and polls from some of the closest states.

[Zurkerx]

Oh here we go: Turns out the removed mail sorting machines have all been scrapped and so cannot be reinstalled in time for the election..

How terribly convenient.

What's sad is that this could work - America has insane news stories every single day, and we tend to forget about the really damning ones quite quickly. Certainly, this works in DeJoy's favor.

That depends if what he says is true, which I suspect it is though if Trump wins, I doubt he'll face punishment if he intentionally did sabotage here.

Might be a good trade TBH.

It's a very good trade. The White House and Senate are up for grabs every few years, the court isn't. In fact I think the average president usually only gets one or two appointments. RBG staying on when she should have retired years ago fucked everything up.

Pretty much. The GOP knows that a 6-3 Court will at least protect them for another decade in terms of legislation, and their hopes of overturning Roe v. Wade and perhaps Obergefell v. Hodges. In any case, it's going to be Barrett based on early rumors I'm hearing.

[Thermodolia]

Nearly all of them.

All of the the 52% of people who want Trump to wait until after the election are Trump voters who will vote for Biden if he pushes it through? That is absolutely absurd.

What does it matter if they are Trump voters? Nearly half the nation voted for Trump in 2016. It stands to reason that a lot of those 52% are Trump voters.

Remember neither candidate got a majority of the vote in 2016. Clinton got 48% while Trump got 46%. Since only 39% support the move and 52% oppose it with 9% undecided it stands to reason that quite a bit of Trump voters do not like this move.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It's a very good trade. The White House and Senate are up for grabs every few years, the court isn't. In fact I think the average president usually only gets one or two appointments. RBG staying on when she should have retired years ago fucked everything up.

Pretty much. The GOP knows that a 6-3 Court will at least protect them for another decade in terms of legislation, and their hopes of overturning Roe v. Wade and perhaps Obergefell v. Hodges. In any case, it's going to be Barrett based on early rumors I'm hearing.

I don't think either case is going to be directly touched honestly. At most they'll weaken them but they'll never be overturned.

[San Lumen]

Says the person who doesn’t believe in peaceful transfer of power and wants millions unable to vote because they don’t agree with them.

Enough with your spam. No one cares. Are you incapable of engaging in actual debate?

and as usual you deny your own words and prove yourself a masterful dodger.

[Telconi]

and as usual you deny your own words and prove yourself a masterful dodger.

I didn't but lies are one thing you're good at.

[Vassenor]

So just how much of a threat is Barrett to civil rights progress? Quite a big one, apparently.