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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
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No
61
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I Don't Know
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21%
Too Early to Say
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:29 pm

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So why is it so important that the GOP disregard the will of the people and their own precedent to force this through rather than waiting until after the guaranteed Trump Landslide?


Because it would be much harder to confirm a nominee in the lame duck period and this isn't a win anyone wants to pass up.


Even if trump was a lame duck; they would do the exact same thing.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:31 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So why is it so important that the GOP disregard the will of the people and their own precedent to force this through rather than waiting until after the guaranteed Trump Landslide?


Because it would be much harder to confirm a nominee in the lame duck period and this isn't a win anyone wants to pass up.


So wait until January. After all, Trump Landslide is guaranteed.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:32 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Because it would be much harder to confirm a nominee in the lame duck period and this isn't a win anyone wants to pass up.


So wait until January. After all, Trump Landslide is guaranteed.


I'm not sure anyone here except you and GMS are saying that but ok
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:34 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So, the SCOTUS pick is tomorrow and it sounds like Graham already has a hearing schedule lined up to do it ASAP. Gonna be really interesting to see how things play out.


Interesting? Not really.....well maybe. Everybody expects Barrett and it turns out its either Cotton or Cruz. Now that would be funny. It will probably be barrett so he can show how he supports women.

There is no way in hell, Trump would choose a Republican Senator, it is not going to happen.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:34 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:
Interesting? Not really.....well maybe. Everybody expects Barrett and it turns out its either Cotton or Cruz. Now that would be funny. It will probably be barrett so he can show how he supports women.


I still maintain that him picking Cruz would be the funniest thing to happen this year. Imagine those Judiciary Committee hearings lol


Oh I would tune into that.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:34 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Interesting? Not really.....well maybe. Everybody expects Barrett and it turns out its either Cotton or Cruz. Now that would be funny. It will probably be barrett so he can show how he supports women.


I still maintain that him picking Cruz would be the funniest thing to happen this year. Imagine those Judiciary Committee hearings lol

Unanimous confirmation just to get him out of the Senate.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:36 pm


Throw him in jail and get to work immediately on rebuilding them if true.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:37 pm


Most likely a bluff.

He’s hoping the judge will just give up. Most likely he’ll wind up in prison for contempt of court
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:37 pm

Kowani wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I still maintain that him picking Cruz would be the funniest thing to happen this year. Imagine those Judiciary Committee hearings lol

Unanimous confirmation just to get him out of the Senate.

Unanimous confirmation by the Leftist Liberal Democrats in the senate, not by the Right Wing Conservative Republicans in the senate, that is one of the reasons it is never going to happen.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:37 pm

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Most likely a bluff.

He’s hoping the judge will just give up. Most likely he’ll wind up in prison for contempt of court


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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:38 pm

Thermodolia wrote:

Most likely a bluff.

He’s hoping the judge will just give up. Most likely he’ll wind up in prison for contempt of court

I hope it’s a bluff and he is arrested for contempt.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:38 pm

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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:

Throw him in jail and get to work immediately on rebuilding them if true.


And here I thought you opposed political imprisonment.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:46 pm


I don't understand what you mean by surprise face, my English not very good? I cant read the article link, because I don't understand what the source is asking me to agree too?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:46 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Throw him in jail and get to work immediately on rebuilding them if true.


And here I thought you opposed political imprisonment.


This is not political imprisonment. It’s willful and deliberate criminal inference in an election.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
And here I thought you opposed political imprisonment.


This is not political imprisonment. It’s willful and deliberate criminal inference in an election.


Says you.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:49 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
This is not political imprisonment. It’s willful and deliberate criminal inference in an election.


Says you.

Who believes leftist spins, democrat talking points and propaganda.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:52 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
This is not political imprisonment. It’s willful and deliberate criminal inference in an election.


Says you.

Says the person who doesn’t believe in peaceful transfer of power and wants millions unable to vote because they don’t agree with them.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Says you.

Says the person who doesn’t believe in peaceful transfer of power and wants millions unable to vote because they don’t agree with them.


San Lumen wrote:Enough with your spam. No one cares. Are you incapable of engaging in actual debate?


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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:56 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Says the person who doesn’t believe in peaceful transfer of power and wants millions unable to vote because they don’t agree with them.


San Lumen wrote:Enough with your spam. No one cares. Are you incapable of engaging in actual debate?


:eyebrow:

I mean, you've said as much several times. Along with advocacy for domestic terrorism. Don't think everyone just forgot about that after you went on break for a few months.
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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:57 pm



What's sad is that this could work - America has insane news stories every single day, and we tend to forget about the really damning ones quite quickly. Certainly, this works in DeJoy's favor.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:58 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Telconi wrote:


:eyebrow:

I mean, you've said as much several times. Along with advocacy for domestic terrorism. Don't think everyone just forgot about that after you went on break for a few months.


And the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell...

A statement being factually correct doesn't make it relevant, or novel. Lumen's insistence that my contempt of democracy is either relevant or novel is just foolish nonsense.
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Postby Aclion » Fri Sep 25, 2020 1:02 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I saw what you wrote.

It's downright amazing, if they can pull it off.


So why is it so important that the GOP disregard the will of the people and their own precedent to force this through rather than waiting until after the guaranteed Trump Landslide?

There is no precedent. The GOP controlled the senate in both cases. For a party to block their own president's nomination to wait for an election is unprecedented.
Additionally there's the strategic reality that in both cases the democrats benefited from waiting, since doing so was a political issue that boosted their base's turnout, which is exactly why republicans should push it through. Both to deny Biden a campaign issue and to provoke the democrats into throwing more tantrums that will lose them even more sane people.
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