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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
27
16%
No
61
36%
I Don't Know
36
21%
Too Early to Say
44
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Total votes : 168

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:26 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I don't put any of my fellow nations on ignore for any reasons.

Look who are talking about having their political opinions validated, many of the one s who tell others directly and indirectly we are right and you are wrong all the time on Trump and all issues.

My personal favorite, You are entitled to your opinions but not to your own facts. lol this one is a classic.

Your right wing sources are unreliable, garbage, trash and a rag, and their leftists sources are not garbage, trash and a rag, they are reliable, unbiased, unpartisan sources, yeah right.

We are not hear to agree with each other, Trump and the Republicans, bad, evil and corrupt, and Biden and the Democrats, good and honest, un biased, un partisan all the time, yeah right.


Ok. Now the victim spam. Sorry dude. You can’t change so I placing you on ignore as you don’t offer anything new and just spam the same responses.

Buhbye!
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:29 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I wasn't sure where exactly it did go and there wasn't enough meat yet to start its own thread.


No worries. Personally I don’t care for the guy and yet hope he is ok.

I second your post and hope he recovers, I love the guy, because I consider myself a conservative Republican nationalist with a slight economic libertarian streak. I support Republican South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, as the first US Lady President - Madam President.

Supporter of President Trump, because I agree with President Trump and the Republicans on most issues.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:31 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
No worries. Personally I don’t care for the guy and yet hope he is ok.

I second your post and hope he recovers, I love the guy, because I consider myself a conservative Republican nationalist with a slight economic libertarian streak. I support Republican South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, as the first US Lady President - Madam President.

Supporter of President Trump, because I agree with President Trump and the Republicans on most issues.

Enough with your spam. No one cares. Are you incapable of engaging in actual debate?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I second your post and hope he recovers, I love the guy, because I consider myself a conservative Republican nationalist with a slight economic libertarian streak. I support Republican South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, as the first US Lady President - Madam President.

Supporter of President Trump, because I agree with President Trump and the Republicans on most issues.

Enough with your spam. No one cares. Are you incapable of engaging in actual debate?


Lume? just join the ignore club. Every time you respond, we see the posts.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:34 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Enough with your spam. No one cares. Are you incapable of engaging in actual debate?


Lume? just join the ignore club. Every time you respond, we see the posts.

Yes please can't we all agree to just put him and any puppets he may try to use to bypass it on ignore and be done with it?

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:39 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Enough with your spam. No one cares. Are you incapable of engaging in actual debate?


Lume? just join the ignore club. Every time you respond, we see the posts.

I did not spam anything on this post. You posted well wishes to Ron Paul, a Libertarian Republican, and I second your post, and added because I consider myself a conservative Republican nationalist with a slight economic Libertarian streak.

A Libertarian Republican.

I support Nikki Haley a Libertarian Republican.

It fits the Posts.

I support President Trump and the Republicans because I agree with them on most issues.

I think S L just doesn't like to hear it.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:44 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Enough with your spam. No one cares. Are you incapable of engaging in actual debate?


Lume? just join the ignore club. Every time you respond, we see the posts.


Just done the same.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:44 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Enough with your spam. No one cares. Are you incapable of engaging in actual debate?


Lume? just join the ignore club. Every time you respond, we see the posts.

So very much this.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:49 am

Celritannia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Lume? just join the ignore club. Every time you respond, we see the posts.


Just done the same.

Same here. Refreshing.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:50 am

The Pentagon has clarified that it will not play a role in the election.

So if anyone was wondering where we were at, we’re at the Pentagon having to assure people they will not be part of an election.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:51 am

ok to all you who cant seem to accept my Pro Trump and Republican Posts, Please force yourselves to send me a TG with respect, so you do not break an NS rule of decency and don't get banned from NS forever, which we all love, telling me so, so I can keep track and remember.

I don't know how it works, but I will never put any fellow nation on ignore, because I disagree with their support of Biden, Democrats or any politician. For any actionable or non actionable negative comments against me.

Lets see who has more respect.

GMS.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:54 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:The Pentagon has clarified that it will not play a role in the election.

So if anyone was wondering where we were at, we’re at the Pentagon having to assure people they will not be part of an election.

It’s also telling Trump that the military will not back his attempts to remain in office. The military has said they aren’t joining in the fun.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:57 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:The Pentagon has clarified that it will not play a role in the election.

So if anyone was wondering where we were at, we’re at the Pentagon having to assure people they will not be part of an election.

It’s also telling Trump that the military will not back his attempts to remain in office. The military has said they aren’t joining in the fun.


If Trump is trying to push through a new SCOTUS Justiciar, do you think you could get pushed up to Chief of the Defence Staff in quick time too, just to tell him to eff off?

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:57 am

Has there ever been a US president who has refused to transition after an electoral defeat? Ive never heard of any but just in case.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:58 am

Celritannia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It’s also telling Trump that the military will not back his attempts to remain in office. The military has said they aren’t joining in the fun.


If Trump is trying to push through a new SCOTUS Justiciar, do you think you could get pushed up to Chief of the Defence Staff in quick time too, just to tell him to eff off?


I'm not sure what that would acconplish.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:59 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Has there ever been a US president who has refused to transition after an electoral defeat? Ive never heard of any but just in case.

No there has not.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:00 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:The Pentagon has clarified that it will not play a role in the election.

So if anyone was wondering where we were at, we’re at the Pentagon having to assure people they will not be part of an election.

It’s also telling Trump that the military will not back his attempts to remain in office. The military has said they aren’t joining in the fun.

I think Trump is not serious about it. As I pointed out, what he is concerned about is voter fraud of any kind by the Democrats, but the leftist media spins it this way. I posted the article saying so, where it talks about the voter fraud of all kinds Trump is concerned about, but the leftist media spin makes it sound like President Trump will stay in power if he looses the election.

In all Presidential elections the Republicans and Democrats have lawyers challenging closings of voter lines, extending voting, and challenging election results if needed. I might not have explained it as well I could.

I and my fellow Republicans hope President Trump wins the election, obviously so.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:04 pm

Telconi wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
If Trump is trying to push through a new SCOTUS Justiciar, do you think you could get pushed up to Chief of the Defence Staff in quick time too, just to tell him to eff off?


I'm not sure what that would acconplish.

I don’t think anyone would want me a the Joint Chief of Staff. The possibility of me declaring myself dictator is way too fucking great
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:05 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I'm not sure what that would acconplish.

I don’t think anyone would want me a the Joint Chief of Staff. The possibility of me declaring myself dictator is way too fucking great

I don’t think I’d want you in any elected office.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:05 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Has there ever been a US president who has refused to transition after an electoral defeat? Ive never heard of any but just in case.


Closest thing we've ever had was the Tilden and Hayes issue. But neither of them was an incumbent president.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I don’t think anyone would want me a the Joint Chief of Staff. The possibility of me declaring myself dictator is way too fucking great

I don’t think I’d want you in any elected office.


He'd probably do a better job than most.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I don’t think anyone would want me a the Joint Chief of Staff. The possibility of me declaring myself dictator is way too fucking great

I don’t think I’d want you in any elected office.

Of course you wouldn’t. I’m openly socialist who has said that capitalism is evil on multiple occasions and that gun control is dangerous.

I’m like your worst nightmare.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:09 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I don’t think I’d want you in any elected office.

Of course you wouldn’t. I’m openly socialist who has said that capitalism is evil on multiple occasions and that gun control is dangerous.

I’m like your worst nightmare.

It’s more about your affinity for coups and liking of dictatorship. I’d vote for a socialist in the general election.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:09 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I don’t think anyone would want me a the Joint Chief of Staff. The possibility of me declaring myself dictator is way too fucking great

I don’t think I’d want you in any elected office.

I should run for office in a safe conservative Republican district.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:10 pm

So, the SCOTUS pick is tomorrow and it sounds like Graham already has a hearing schedule lined up to do it ASAP. Gonna be really interesting to see how things play out.
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