2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[Washington Resistance Army]

And does anyone have a plan to fight back if he does?

Nope, so it'll probably just happen and life will continue on as always, until the Reps start curtailing freedom of speech, religion, protests, 4th amendment, etc...

My guy the 4th amendment has been continually getting assaulted from all sides longer than you or I have been alive.

[Geneviev]

They won't be allowed to do that. Even McConnell wouldn't allow Trump to steal the election.

Mitch McConnell, steward of democracy...?

Yeah, democracy is fucking doomed.

He's done well on the issue before. He can do it again.

[Thermodolia]

Dumb? Allowing for ballots to come in for two weeks after the election to give the undecideds a chance to decide is dumb?

How can you decide after the election?

You didn’t but the mail is slow.

Here it’s five days after the election

[San Lumen]

Mitch McConnell, steward of democracy...?

Yeah, democracy is fucking doomed.

Yep. McConnell has spent decades telling y'all to your faces that he cares more about gaining and maintaining power than about preserving any republican or democratic norms. Why would this be any different?

Look at Kentucky governor election last year.

[Diopolis]

Umm... Pennsylvania's deadline for receiving mail in ballots is two weeks after the election day.

Who thought of that? That's dumb. Its like here in New York where absentee ballots can;'t be counted for two weeks. Who thinks of this stuff?

In order to be counted, ballots have to be postmarked by election day(ballots with illegible postmarks usually have earlier deadlines). They have to be received by a deadline usually set after the election.

[Geneviev]

Compared to Republicans?

Which says more about Republicans, to be fair, but the Democrats seem far left compared to that.

From my perspective, Democrats are conservative, just for reference.

To the rest of the world. But if you compare them to the GOP, they seem left.

[Kexholm Karelia]

...meaning that by association, the entire movement is inherently Marxist?

Fascists always provide the finest political analysis.

Who are you talking about?

[San Lumen]

How can you decide after the election?

You didn’t but the mail is slow.

Here it’s five days after the election

That's reasonable. I have doubts McConnell said what he did. Could you provide a source.

[Shrillland]

Meanwhile, Missouri Governor Mike Parson is Covid positive: https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/gov-parsons-wife-tests-positive-coronavirus/63-0950e80f-1c7a-4e26-9e32-1163a37c1fa3

He's suspending his campaign for the next month.

[Kexholm Karelia]

I think we dodged a bullet there. If it was Sanders it would be far more left wing democratic platform

More like we ran into the bullet.

Sanders would be way more left wing than Biden, so we dodged a bullet there. The normalization of socialism will eventually lead to economic collapse or communism

[Kexholm Karelia]

From my perspective, Democrats are conservative, just for reference.

To the rest of the world. But if you compare them to the GOP, they seem left.

Which is why I vote for the GOP

[Geneviev]

More like we ran into the bullet.

Sanders would be way more left wing than Biden, so we dodged a bullet there. The normalization of socialism will eventually lead to economic collapse or communism

I don't know, we already have economic collapse.

[San Lumen]

More like we ran into the bullet.

Sanders would be way more left wing than Biden, so we dodged a bullet there. The normalization of socialism will eventually lead to economic collapse or communism

Do you even know what socialism is? Medicare, Medicaid, social security, farm subsidies, food stamps, welfare, all that is socialism.

[Aureumterra III]

Sanders would be way more left wing than Biden, so we dodged a bullet there. The normalization of socialism will eventually lead to economic collapse or communism

Do you even know what socialism is? Medicare, Medicaid, social security, farm subsidies, food stamps, welfare, all that is socialism.

That’s… not socialism… at all

[Dresderstan]

Sanders would be way more left wing than Biden, so we dodged a bullet there. The normalization of socialism will eventually lead to economic collapse or communism

Do you even know what socialism is? Medicare, Medicaid, social security, farm subsidies, food stamps, welfare, all that is socialism.

Clearly neither do you, that's not socialism.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Four years from now, there won't be an America, and there sure as hell won't be anyone better. Soon enough, we'll be picking the oligarch that has a slightly smaller list of crimes, or barring that, the one with the most money to throw away. I don't care about "being better than the other guy", I care about having people in power who won't fuck the common man. At this point, there's no way to vote that into existence.

Biden, at least, would let us elect someone better. We need patience, and then we will save democracy.

No. No he would not. The eventual end of voting for the lesser of two evils is that you're stuck in a downward spiral. Also, there is no time to wait. "Patience" won't save us. Decisive action will. Biden will only lead us further into "corporate hellscape".

Sanders would be way more left wing than Biden, so we dodged a bullet there. The normalization of socialism will eventually lead to economic collapse or communism

Do you even know what socialism is? Medicare, Medicaid, social security, farm subsidies, food stamps, welfare, all that is socialism.

No, actually, it isn't.
so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Welfare is not socialism, and I'm tired of pretending that it is.

[New haven america]

Do you even know what socialism is? Medicare, Medicaid, social security, farm subsidies, food stamps, welfare, all that is socialism.

That’s… not socialism… at all

Yes it is, actually.

All of those are socialist ideas and policies, which explains why the most of the Reps are so keen on getting rid of them.

[Shrillland]

Do you even know what socialism is? Medicare, Medicaid, social security, farm subsidies, food stamps, welfare, all that is socialism.

Clearly neither do you, that's not socialism.

Just a welfare state...though I suppose I'm somewhat socialist since I'm a fan of nationalising public utilities.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Sanders would be way more left wing than Biden, so we dodged a bullet there. The normalization of socialism will eventually lead to economic collapse or communism

I don't know, we already have economic collapse.

*looks at the inherent contradictions of capitalism* hmmm.

[West Leas Oros 2]

That’s… not socialism… at all

Yes it is, actually.

All of those are socialist ideas and policies, which explains why the most of the Reps are so keen on getting rid of them.

Social democracy and socialism are the same thing now, I guess.

[Liriena]

More like we ran into the bullet.

Sanders would be way more left wing than Biden, so we dodged a bullet there. The normalization of socialism will eventually lead to economic collapse or communism

Ah, yes, the absolute post-apocalyptic wastelands of Scandinavia...

[Liriena]

I don't know, we already have economic collapse.

*looks at the inherent contradictions of capitalism* hmmm.

American right-wingers talking about all the evils of socialism and accidentally describing the current state of capitalism as they do so. You love to see it.

[Liriena]

Yes it is, actually.

All of those are socialist ideas and policies, which explains why the most of the Reps are so keen on getting rid of them.

Social democracy and socialism are the same thing now, I guess.

Right-wingers don't care to make the distinction, so why bother? If anything, embracing the "everything to the left of Thatcher is communism" is good PR fuel for communism, because that category includes a lot of good, overwhelmingly popular shit.

[Rusozak]

Yes it is, actually.

All of those are socialist ideas and policies, which explains why the most of the Reps are so keen on getting rid of them.

Social democracy and socialism are the same thing now, I guess.

Which, again to reiterate, is usually all grouped together as hardline communism by right wing fear mongers. Hell, in recent months "Marxist" has just become a catch all term for anyone who opposes the GOP. When these people are talking about communism and socialism, it's usually not actual communism or socialism.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Social democracy and socialism are the same thing now, I guess.

Which, again to reiterate, is usually all grouped together as hardline communism by right wing fear mongers. Hell, in recent months "Marxist" has just become a catch all term for anyone who opposes the GOP. When these people are talking about communism and socialism, it's usually not actual communism or socialism.

Then shouldn't we do something to avoid legitimizing them?