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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
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No
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I Don't Know
36
21%
Too Early to Say
44
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:54 pm


It’s not going to happen as McConnell and several state GOP chairs have shot down such an idea
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:55 pm

Diopolis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Its not going to take four weeks to count ballots. I think we will know the outcome by early morning on November 4th.

Umm... Pennsylvania's deadline for receiving mail in ballots is two weeks after the election day.


Who thought of that? That's dumb. Its like here in New York where absentee ballots can;'t be counted for two weeks. Who thinks of this stuff?

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Postby Shrillland » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:55 pm

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What is "the week?"


It's a major political news-magazine just like Politico or The Hill. News-wise, beyond most reproach.
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:55 pm


They won't be allowed to do that. Even McConnell wouldn't allow Trump to steal the election.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:55 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
Liriena wrote:I fucking wish that was true. I wish I lived in the imaginary world of rampant Marxism your endless self-radicalization fantasies have created for you.

But lo and behold, no, we live in the real world, where the Democratic Party is still dominated by liberals and nominates liberals for the presidency and doesn't even include in its platform something as basic, something as harmlessly social democratic as universal public healthcare.

Black Lives Matter, a movement that has gained immense popularity in recent months, has their co-founder declare herself a "trained Marxist"

Does that mean that you are a fascist and a white nationalist because there are fascists and white nationalists in the White House?
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:55 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:12 more years!

It’s not going to happen as McConnell and several state GOP chairs have shot down such an idea

McConnell shot it down? I;'d like to see a source for that.

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Postby Kannap » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:55 pm

Kexholm Karelia wrote:
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“I beat the socialist,” Mr. Biden said. “That’s how I got elected. That’s how I got the nomination. Do I look like a socialist? Look at my career — my whole career. I am not a socialist.”
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And I'm supposed to vote for this guy?

I think we dodged a bullet there. If it was Sanders it would be far more left wing democratic platform


Imagine thinking Democrats can be far left as a party. Big joke.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Umm... Pennsylvania's deadline for receiving mail in ballots is two weeks after the election day.


Who thought of that? That's dumb. Its like here in New York where absentee ballots can;'t be counted for two weeks. Who thinks of this stuff?


Dumb? Allowing for ballots to come in for two weeks after the election to give the undecideds a chance to decide is dumb?
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Postby Kannap » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:56 pm

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I wish I could still live in such a fantasy.

It makes everything much more pleasant in life if you try to look at the bright side.


I don't see any bright sides.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:56 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Diopolis wrote:12 more years!

It’s not going to happen as McConnell and several state GOP chairs have shot down such an idea

Because we know McConnell has a great track record of keeping his word.
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:56 pm

Kannap wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:I think we dodged a bullet there. If it was Sanders it would be far more left wing democratic platform


Imagine thinking Democrats can be far left as a party. Big joke.

Compared to Republicans?

Which says more about Republicans, to be fair, but the Democrats seem far left compared to that.
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-Astoria- wrote:
Kexholm Karelia wrote:Black Lives Matter, a movement that has gained immense popularity in recent months, has their co-founder declare herself a "trained Marxist"

...meaning that by association, the entire movement is inherently Marxist?

Fascists always provide the finest political analysis.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:56 pm

Shrillland wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Who thought of that? That's dumb. Its like here in New York where absentee ballots can;'t be counted for two weeks. Who thinks of this stuff?


Dumb? Allowing for ballots to come in for two weeks after the election to give the undecideds a chance to decide is dumb?


How can you decide after the election?

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:57 pm

Diopolis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Its not going to take four weeks to count ballots. I think we will know the outcome by early morning on November 4th.

Umm... Pennsylvania's deadline for receiving mail in ballots is two weeks after the election day.

That’s the deadline, ballots will still be counted during that time frame. They’ll just add the new votes into the totals
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:57 pm

Geneviev wrote:

They won't be allowed to do that. Even McConnell wouldn't allow Trump to steal the election.


Mitch McConnell, steward of democracy...?

Yeah, democracy is fucking doomed.
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Postby Geneviev » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:57 pm

Kannap wrote:
Geneviev wrote:It makes everything much more pleasant in life if you try to look at the bright side.


I don't see any bright sides.

The bright sides are in the future, not now. You have to look at the future and what will go right then.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:57 pm

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And does anyone have a plan to fight back if he does?

Nope, so it'll probably just happen and life will continue on as always, until the Reps start curtailing freedom of speech, religion, protests, 4th amendment, etc...
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Dumb? Allowing for ballots to come in for two weeks after the election to give the undecideds a chance to decide is dumb?


How can you decide after the election?


You can't, but you can decide in the last few days of the period and take the fact that postal ballots take a while to get to their destinations into account.
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Postby Kannap » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Umm... Pennsylvania's deadline for receiving mail in ballots is two weeks after the election day.


Who thought of that? That's dumb. Its like here in New York where absentee ballots can;'t be counted for two weeks. Who thinks of this stuff?


Why do you hate democracy?
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:58 pm

New haven america wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It’s not going to happen as McConnell and several state GOP chairs have shot down such an idea

Because we know McConnell has a great track record of keeping his word.

Well he did tell former Governor Bevin in Kentucky last year to provide hard evidence of his allegations of massive fraud or step aside so he does have some consistency on this.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:58 pm

New haven america wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It’s not going to happen as McConnell and several state GOP chairs have shot down such an idea

Because we know McConnell has a great track record of keeping his word.

He was pretty consistent on the justice thing considering he said that when the senate and White House are held by different parties the senate doesn’t have to do jack in an election year.

That’s not the case here
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Postby Liriena » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:58 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Geneviev wrote:They won't be allowed to do that. Even McConnell wouldn't allow Trump to steal the election.


Mitch McConnell, steward of democracy...?

Yeah, democracy is fucking doomed.

Yep. McConnell has spent decades telling y'all to your faces that he cares more about gaining and maintaining power than about preserving any republican or democratic norms. Why would this be any different?
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Postby Kannap » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:59 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Imagine thinking Democrats can be far left as a party. Big joke.

Compared to Republicans?

Which says more about Republicans, to be fair, but the Democrats seem far left compared to that.


From my perspective, Democrats are conservative, just for reference.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:59 pm

If the election is close at all, expect drawn out legal battles and civil unrest.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:59 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
New haven america wrote:Because we know McConnell has a great track record of keeping his word.

He was pretty consistent on the justice thing considering he said that when the senate and White House are held by different parties the senate doesn’t have to do jack in an election year.

That’s not the case here

Can you provide a source for McConnell shooting down the alternate electors idea?

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