2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[San Lumen]

This fearmongering again?

200,000 Americans dead from a virus the president did nothing to stop, who gives state secrets to the Russians while ignoring their bounties on our soldiers, who lets Turkish presidential bodyguards assault American protesters on American soil and get away with it, who said in his own words "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" as he ignores police murdering American citizens in cold blood, let's mercenaries hired by federal agencies abduct American citizens without cause off the streets at random, and is literally trying to sabotage the election is hardly "fearmongering".

You are living proof that the "Enlightened European" myth is just that: a myth.

and if he is somehow reelected the chances of me returning to the city I love go down even more as do hopes of ever getting to see the world or having anything to look forward too or even having a democracy going forward.

[Major-Tom]

Most people saying they will flee to Canada probably won’t just like 2016. If people actually start doing that, the Canadians have the right to enforce their borders and deport them

Probably not, yeah. None of us are actually going to sneak over the border, we're not delusional. But daydreaming about it can be fun and stress-relieving.

[Nejii]

Someone pay for my immigration to Canada if Trump wins, okay?

Fuck that. I'm swimming across the river to Canada whether they want me there or not.

I have a better solution; a state funded international collaborative "one-way" immigration initiative to one of these four provided nations: North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, or Madagascar. One way meaning you can't turn right around and come back when you realize how oppressed you really are compared to the cushy lifestyle of the US. And no rescue bill. If you like socialism, one party political systems, foreign regimes, pining about oppression without relent, or have a fetish for being a minority (be it racially, religiously, or other), these are the places for you!

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Most people saying they will flee to Canada probably won’t just like 2016. If people actually start doing that, the Canadians have the right to enforce their borders and deport them

Probably not, yeah. None of us are actually going to sneak over the border, we're not delusional. But daydreaming about it can be fun and stress-relieving.

If I had the fucking money you bet your ass I'd do it.

But I'm an over-worked factory worker who doesn't have the energy for overtime and only makes $11/hr so that's out of the fucking question.

[San Lumen]

Most people saying they will flee to Canada probably won’t just like 2016. If people actually start doing that, the Canadians have the right to enforce their borders and deport them

Probably not, yeah. None of us are actually going to sneak over the border, we're not delusional. But daydreaming about it can be fun and stress-relieving.

That's if the Canadian border is reopened.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Fuck that. I'm swimming across the river to Canada whether they want me there or not.

I have a better solution; a state funded international collaborative "one-way" immigration initiative to one of these four provided nations: North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, or Madagascar. One way meaning you can't turn right around and come back when you realize how oppressed you really are compared to the cushy lifestyle of the US. And no rescue bill. If you like socialism, one party political systems, foreign regimes, pining about oppression without relent, or have a fetish for being a minority (be it racially, religiously, or other), these are the places for you!

I want to go to Canada because it has an actually functioning democracy without socialism or oppression. The U.S. doesn't have that at the moment.

Your little "gottem" is embarrassingly lacking in self-awareness.

[Nejii]

Probably not, yeah. None of us are actually going to sneak over the border, we're not delusional. But daydreaming about it can be fun and stress-relieving.

If I had the fucking money you bet your ass I'd do it.

But I'm an over-worked factory worker who doesn't have the energy for overtime and only makes $11/hr so that's out of the fucking question.

How much do you think you should make? I'd wildly estimate at 25$. If only, TBH.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Fuck that. I'm swimming across the river to Canada whether they want me there or not.

I have a better solution; a state funded international collaborative "one-way" immigration initiative to one of these four provided nations: North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, or Madagascar. One way meaning you can't turn right around and come back when you realize how oppressed you really are compared to the cushy lifestyle of the US. And no rescue bill. If you like socialism, one party political systems, foreign regimes, pining about oppression without relent, or have a fetish for being a minority (be it racially, religiously, or other), these are the places for you!

Oh boy, a wild "What about vuvuzela" appeared!

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

If I had the fucking money you bet your ass I'd do it.

But I'm an over-worked factory worker who doesn't have the energy for overtime and only makes $11/hr so that's out of the fucking question.

How much do you think you should make? I'd wildly estimate at 25$. If only, TBH.

There's currently a proposal to raise FL's minimum wage to $15/hr. You better believe I'll be voting for that. 4 dollars more an hour could literally improve my entire life.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I have a better solution; a state funded international collaborative "one-way" immigration initiative to one of these four provided nations: North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, or Madagascar. One way meaning you can't turn right around and come back when you realize how oppressed you really are compared to the cushy lifestyle of the US. And no rescue bill. If you like socialism, one party political systems, foreign regimes, pining about oppression without relent, or have a fetish for being a minority (be it racially, religiously, or other), these are the places for you!

Oh boy, a wild "What about vuvuzela" appeared!

"gottem!!! own the libs!!!"

[Thermodolia]

Probably not, yeah. None of us are actually going to sneak over the border, we're not delusional. But daydreaming about it can be fun and stress-relieving.

That's if the Canadian border is reopened.

Technically I could claim Canadian citizenship, the border is closed to Americans but not Canadian citizens

[Nejii]

I have a better solution; a state funded international collaborative "one-way" immigration initiative to one of these four provided nations: North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, or Madagascar. One way meaning you can't turn right around and come back when you realize how oppressed you really are compared to the cushy lifestyle of the US. And no rescue bill. If you like socialism, one party political systems, foreign regimes, pining about oppression without relent, or have a fetish for being a minority (be it racially, religiously, or other), these are the places for you!

I want to go to Canada because it has an actually functioning democracy without socialism or oppression. The U.S. doesn't have that at the moment.

Your little "gottem" is embarrassingly lacking in self-awareness.

In truth it was more of a jabby joke.

Though the fact that you consider the current US regime as "oppressive" means that maybe I'm not the one lacking awareness. Citizens of third world nations would literally erupt at that remark.

[Major-Tom]

Probably not, yeah. None of us are actually going to sneak over the border, we're not delusional. But daydreaming about it can be fun and stress-relieving.

That's if the Canadian border is reopened.

Again, tourists aren't allowed, immigrants still are.

Probably not, yeah. None of us are actually going to sneak over the border, we're not delusional. But daydreaming about it can be fun and stress-relieving.

If I had the fucking money you bet your ass I'd do it.

But I'm an over-worked factory worker who doesn't have the energy for overtime and only makes $11/hr so that's out of the fucking question.

What I mean is none of us are sneaking over, work Visas always exist. If you can pull it off, by all means, go you.

[San Lumen]

That's if the Canadian border is reopened.

Technically I could claim Canadian citizenship, the border is closed to Americans but not Canadian citizens

If Trump is reelected 2021 will be even worse than this year. There will be nothing to look forward to, our democracy will be over and travel from the country will likely be banned for years to come.

[Kowani]

Fuck that. I'm swimming across the river to Canada whether they want me there or not.

I have a better solution; a state funded international collaborative "one-way" immigration initiative to one of these four provided nations: North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, or Madagascar. One way meaning you can't turn right around and come back when you realize how oppressed you really are compared to the cushy lifestyle of the US.

Question: Do you tell assault victims "well at least you weren't raped lol"

And no rescue bill. If you like socialism,

Nowhere you mentioned is socialist.

one party political systems,

For all intents and purposes, we have a one party system with a slightly better wing.

[Major-Tom]

Fuck that. I'm swimming across the river to Canada whether they want me there or not.

I have a better solution; a state funded international collaborative "one-way" immigration initiative to one of these four provided nations: North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, or Madagascar. One way meaning you can't turn right around and come back when you realize how oppressed you really are compared to the cushy lifestyle of the US. And no rescue bill. If you like socialism, one party political systems, foreign regimes, pining about oppression without relent, or have a fetish for being a minority (be it racially, religiously, or other), these are the places for you!

"You claim to be dissatisfied with your country, yet there are other countries that are worse, curious..."

[Thermodolia]

I think its pretty clear that Trump isn't gonna leave peacefully, though, no matter how this goes.

Good. Let them drag him out by his tiny hands, kicking and screaming the entire time like a 2 year old on live television. I'll be watching and laughing.

Also if it’s pretty damn evident that Biden has won, McConnell won’t go along with Trumps plan because it would mean the end of his political career and the end of the Republican Party as the democrats would give no quarter to any republican who supported such a thing.

McConnell would rather die in office not in Gitmo

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I want to go to Canada because it has an actually functioning democracy without socialism or oppression. The U.S. doesn't have that at the moment.

Your little "gottem" is embarrassingly lacking in self-awareness.

In truth it was more of a jabby joke.

Though the fact that you consider the current US regime as "oppressive" means that maybe I'm not the one lacking awareness. Citizens of third world nations would literally erupt at that remark.

I generally consider governments that abduct their own citizens and interrogate them without just cause to be oppressive, yes. Kinda like what Barr's little pet project was doing not long ago in Portland, Oklahoma, and a few other places.

[Nejii]

How much do you think you should make? I'd wildly estimate at 25$. If only, TBH.

There's currently a proposal to raise FL's minimum wage to $15/hr. You better believe I'll be voting for that. 4 dollars more an hour could literally improve my entire life.

Now that's a raise I can agree with. But as I hinted toward I know waitresses personally who think they should make a minimum of twenty dollars an hour. Agree with that? Not so much.

[Thermodolia]

Technically I could claim Canadian citizenship, the border is closed to Americans but not Canadian citizens

If Trump is reelected 2021 will be even worse than this year. There will be nothing to look forward to, our democracy will be over and travel from the country will likely be banned for years to come.

That’s an absolutely silly statement and you know it

[-Astoria-]

Fuck that. I'm swimming across the river to Canada whether they want me there or not.

I have a better solution; a state funded international collaborative "one-way" immigration initiative to one of these four provided nations: North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, or Madagascar. One way meaning you can't turn right around and come back when you realize how oppressed you really are compared to the cushy lifestyle of the US. And no rescue bill. If you like socialism, one party political systems, foreign regimes, pining about oppression without relent, or have a fetish for being a minority (be it racially, religiously, or other), these are the places for you!

"Everyone who so much as criticises America is a communist; why don't you go to Vuvuzela!!!!one!!1!"

[San Lumen]

If Trump is reelected 2021 will be even worse than this year. There will be nothing to look forward to, our democracy will be over and travel from the country will likely be banned for years to come.

That’s an absolutely silly statement and you know it

No it isn't. If Trump is reelected our democracy dies.

[Nejii]

I have a better solution; a state funded international collaborative "one-way" immigration initiative to one of these four provided nations: North Korea, Venezuela, Iran, or Madagascar. One way meaning you can't turn right around and come back when you realize how oppressed you really are compared to the cushy lifestyle of the US.

Question: Do you tell assault victims "well at least you weren't raped lol"

And no rescue bill. If you like socialism,

Nowhere you mentioned is socialist.

one party political systems,

For all intents and purposes, we have a one party system with a slightly better wing.

The US is not a one party system. Now that is a flat stupid claim.

EDIT: We literally have representation of two major political parties and various smaller parties as well.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

There's currently a proposal to raise FL's minimum wage to $15/hr. You better believe I'll be voting for that. 4 dollars more an hour could literally improve my entire life.

Now that's a raise I can agree with. But as I hinted toward I know waitresses personally who think they should make a minimum of twenty dollars an hour. Agree with that? Not so much.

I agree with the minimum wage being set at whatever the experts believe it should be at when accounting for inflation, rent, tax rate, etc.

Which is definitely not $8.46, the minimum wage in Florida. I can barely afford rent, utilities, and groceries on $11/hr and that's with my mom's $16/hr paycheck to boot. Never mind getting a lucky every now and again, or having to fork over cash to fix the car or something.

[Thermodolia]

That’s an absolutely silly statement and you know it

No it isn't. If Trump is reelected our democracy dies.

Not the part I’m referring too.

The part that travel from the country will be banned. That’s not going to happen and you know it