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2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

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Will the Third Debate Even Happen?

Yes
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:30 pm

*Not worth it*
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:30 pm

Loben III wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
He's viewed by the Evangelicals as a transactional political figure. He gives them the judges they wish and he gets the adulation. But once the court is 6-3 he decomes Captain Dunsel and is discarded.


who the fuck is captain dunsel?


Star Trek reference.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:31 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
And a gay guy told me he wanted to kill my family. So evidently LGBT people are something to be concerned about too...


Sure he did......did you antagonize him?


Less than your mom antagonized that poor person.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:32 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
He's viewed by the Evangelicals as a transactional political figure. He gives them the judges they wish and he gets the adulation. But once the court is 6-3 he decomes Captain Dunsel and is discarded.


I'm not sure about that. A party or even a sizable amount of a party willing to discard him doesn't pull the kind of stunts they did at the convention.


That was before RBG died. The GOP has marched lock step since about 5 years after Roe in pursuit of the court. Donny is has been their useful idiot. Once the deed is done they'll need someone just like Pence. Think about it.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:32 pm

Why do we need to get personal here? :unsure:

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Postby Loben III » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:33 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
And a gay guy told me he wanted to kill my family. So evidently LGBT people are something to be concerned about too...


Sure he did......did you antagonize him?


i find it very hard to believe that Telconi did anything but inconvenience the gay guy.

since that is apparently all it takes to send them into a tirade.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:33 pm

*not worth it*
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:34 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
I'm not sure about that. A party or even a sizable amount of a party willing to discard him doesn't pull the kind of stunts they did at the convention.


That was before RBG died. The GOP has marched lock step since about 5 years after Roe in pursuit of the court. Donny is has been their useful idiot. Once the deed is done they'll need someone just like Pence. Think about it.


I have thought about it, and personality cults don't break easily unless someone high inside it is wielding the hammer. Remember, there's still a chance Trump will win this year. Then what happens to them when they've been completely subjugated by the populist right?
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Postby Loben III » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:34 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Loben III wrote:
who the fuck is captain dunsel?


Star Trek reference.


oh wait i forgot, cant have political commentary without popular culture references.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:34 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Less than your mom antagonized that poor person.


*sigh* sure lob I mean telc. Sure......


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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:34 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Why do we need to get personal here? :unsure:


We don't. I won't send anyone to the Mods on this, but the Mods will come here anyway, I'm sure.
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Postby Loben III » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:35 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Less than your mom antagonized that poor person.


*sigh* sure lob I mean telc. Sure......


if youre implying that we are the same person because i am defending him then you are a piece of work.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:35 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
They did it precisely for this moment. Like I said, they've been playing the long game on SCOTUS for decades now, and this is what they were waiting for: A hard-right court that can ensure the nation doesn't stray from the path of firm moral guidance that they wish to deliver.


Exactly correct and they're willing to lay down their political lives, that is, all... but for Donald Trump. I don't know if he fully realizes what he's unleashed.

The nation currently has an official 4 to 4 even political divide ratio of Conservative Republican and Leftist Liberal Democrat US Supreme Court Justices, this does not work, the justices need a tie breaker vote, on most issues not all issues, but the court cant work with a 4 to 4 even political balance. A good logical reason for President Trump to do so.

President Trump as a Republican President is of course going to choose a Conservative Republican US Supreme Court Justice, just like a Leftist Liberal Democrat President would choose a Leftist Liberal Democrat US Supreme Court Justice any time during their administration if a vacancy occurs.

President Trump has not unleashed anything, you all just happen to strongly disagree with conservative Republican views. Whatever you guys think of Trump Personally, however much many or all of you hate him, Trump is still a Republican and will nominate a highly qualified US Conservative Republican US Supreme Court Justice, and hopefully confirm his nominee at any time when a vacancy occurs, as he is allowed to under the US democratic constitution, for the voters who elected him and even for the nation. He has this right, duty and obligation to do so.
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Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Why do we need to get personal here? :unsure:

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:36 pm

*not worth it*
Last edited by The Black Forrest on Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:37 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
That was before RBG died. The GOP has marched lock step since about 5 years after Roe in pursuit of the court. Donny is has been their useful idiot. Once the deed is done they'll need someone just like Pence. Think about it.


I have thought about it, and personality cults don't break easily unless someone high inside it is wielding the hammer. Remember, there's still a chance Trump will win this year. Then what happens to them when they've been completely subjugated by the populist right?


The GOP has already been subjugated by the "populist" (who push policy that, broadly, aren't very popular) right, they have to appeal to the Trumpian base and adopt his rhetoric to try and get elected these days.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:37 pm

Loben III wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
*sigh* sure lob I mean telc. Sure......


if youre implying that we are the same person because i am defending him then you are a piece of work.


He has this weird conspiracy theory that there's only one actual person who disagrees with him, and everyone is just a puppet of this one person.
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Postby Loben III » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:38 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Loben III wrote:
if youre implying that we are the same person because i am defending him then you are a piece of work.


It could be a coincidence. I noticed paddy and telc went inactive when you had your “vacation”


you should probably get a hobby.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:40 pm

*not worth it*
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:41 pm

-Astoria- wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:Why do we need to get personal here? :unsure:

Welcome to NSG.

lol, Don't I know it from personal experience, lol I am having another lol attack, :) :rofl:
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Postby Jerzylvania » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:42 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
That was before RBG died. The GOP has marched lock step since about 5 years after Roe in pursuit of the court. Donny is has been their useful idiot. Once the deed is done they'll need someone just like Pence. Think about it.


I have thought about it, and personality cults don't break easily unless someone high inside it is wielding the hammer. Remember, there's still a chance Trump will win this year. Then what happens to them when they've been completely subjugated by the populist right?


Donny's gonna lose because this move on the court will drive up Dem turnout more than GOP turnout. Pence is there on the scene already. Ponder it further. He's an Evangelical. Mike has plans to run in 2024. Biden is a Catholic and they fist bumped on 9/11. The Evangelical could stomach four years of Biden if they got the 6-3 court ahead of the election. This is the hill they are willing to die on.. but Trump doesn't get it bc his ego won't allow him.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:45 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:Welcome to NSG.

lol, Don't I know it from personal experience, lol I am having another lol attack, :) :rofl:

Well, I like you GSM.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:47 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, Don't I know it from personal experience, lol I am having another lol attack, :) :rofl:

Well, I like you GSM.

Thank you for the nice compliment, I am happy to see I am not the only one on NS who likes me. There is no accounting for taste, :) lol. I can laugh and lol at myself, like the Greatest US American President ever Republican President Ronald Reagan, the original Make America Great Again President. President Ronald Reagan was a Gentleman, they don't make them like President Ronald Reagan anymore, and the Greatest American first Lady of the USA, Nancy Reagan, they loved each other very much.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:47 pm

Shrillland wrote:Amendment 2 would increase the state's minimum wage from the current $8.46 an hour to $15 an hour by 2026. This is also expected to pass.


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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:50 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Amendment 2 would increase the state's minimum wage from the current $8.46 an hour to $15 an hour by 2026. This is also expected to pass.


God, yes, please. I need this.


Which state?

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