NYPD Officer allegedly acting as agent of China

[-Astoria-]

I'm genuinely surprised this didn't get more news attention...the media is so screwed up.

Have you chacked local media?

[Genivaria]

We haven't been doing enough to weed out the ChiCom spies in this country.

We can agree on something, wow.

[Genivaria]

The fact that the guy is Tibetan is also kinda fucked up.

[Novus America]

The fact that the guy is Tibetan is also kinda fucked up.

It is, but there were Russians, even occasionally Poles and Jews willing to work for the Nazis against their fellow people.
It is fucked up, but not horribly surprising.

[Mathuvan Union]

The fact that the guy is Tibetan is also kinda fucked up.

It is, but there were Russians, even occasionally Poles and Jews willing to work for the Nazis against their fellow people.
It is fucked up, but not horribly surprising.

the Judenrat.
I think that was what it was called.

[Deltia-]

Most likely. Don't bring up that "betraying your people" shit or that cause most look after their needs first. They probably paid him a lot of cash and we know China ain't above this type of stuff.

[The North America Union]

I'm genuinely surprised this didn't get more news attention...the media is so screwed up.

Have you checked local media?

For the most part local media is non-biased and cover lots, and I enjoy that, obviously that varies in different places...I meant to say "the large media companies are screwed up".

[-Astoria-]

It is, but there were Russians, even occasionally Poles and Jews willing to work for the Nazis against their fellow people.
It is fucked up, but not horribly surprising.

the Judenrat.
I think that was what it was called.

And also kapos in the camps.

[-Astoria-]

Have you checked local media?

For the most part local media is non-biased and cover lots, and I enjoy that, obviously that varies in different places...I meant to say "the large media companies are screwed up".

Maybe they thought of it as a local issue; who knows?

[Leon the Firm]

America went downhill after the 1965 Immigration Act.

[Novus America]

the Judenrat.
I think that was what it was called.

And also kapos in the camps.

This in particular seems very similar:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Żagiew

[Aeritai]

Not surprising considering its normal for countries to send spies to another country. My only concern is that American-Chinese people in NYC are going to face more racism due to this incident.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I knew the NYPD sucked at vetting but I never knew their vetting was that shit that a Chinese secret agent became a cop.

[Novus America]

Not surprising considering its normal for countries to send spies to another country. My only concern is that American-Chinese people in NYC are going to face more racism due to this incident.

It is not surprising per se, but it is sad we are not treating the PRC threat seriously enough.
They are a worse threat than the Soviets ever were.

I do agree we should not assume all ethnic Chinese are spies, and more importantly that the spies are only ethnic Chinese. “White” Americans, and Americans of all nationalities and races have been caught spying for the PRC.

A PRC spy could have blue eyes, blond hair and not any Asian descent at all.

In this case he was useful in being Tibetan as his fellow Tibetans would not think he was working against them, just as the Nazis used Jews to spy on Jews.

But the spies they use to spy on others might not be immigrants of course, the ideal PRC spy for spying on the general US population will be someone not Chinese at all. You cannot assume spies based on nationality or race, the best spy is the one you least expect.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Not surprising considering its normal for countries to send spies to another country. My only concern is that American-Chinese people in NYC are going to face more racism due to this incident.

It is not surprising per se, but it is sad we are not treating the PRC threat seriously enough.
They are a worse threat than the Soviets ever were.

I do agree we should not assume all ethnic Chinese are spies, and more importantly that the spies are only ethnic Chinese. “White” Americans, and Americans of all nationalities and races have been caught spying for the PRC.

A PRC spy could have blue eyes, blond hair and not any Asian descent at all.

In this case he was useful in being Tibetan as his fellow Tibetans would not think he was working against them, just as the Nazis used Jews to spy on Jews.

But the spies they use to spy on others might not be, the ideal PRC spy for spying on the general US population will be someone not Chinese at all. You cannot assume spies based on nationality or race, the best spy is the one you least expect.

My dad once told me that racially profiling Arabs at the airport was a waste of time because if Al Qaeda wanted, they'd get some jihadi Joe type (Think Finnish American, blonde hair and blue eyes, convert to Islam and radical Islam at that) to blow a plane up. Just as anyone of any race can be a jihadist, anyone can be a Chinese agent.

[Bienenhalde]

The fact that the guy is Tibetan is also kinda fucked up.

It is, but there were Russians, even occasionally Poles and Jews willing to work for the Nazis against their fellow people.
It is fucked up, but not horribly surprising.

To be fair, while the PRC might be discriminatory, they are hardly open self-proclaimed racial supremacists like the Nazis were. I don't want to defend the PRC of course, but in the long run making misleading and hyperbolic claims just makes people look dishonest.

[Feline Goetland]

It is, but there were Russians, even occasionally Poles and Jews willing to work for the Nazis against their fellow people.
It is fucked up, but not horribly surprising.

To be fair, while the PRC might be discriminatory, they are hardly open self-proclaimed racial supremacists like the Nazis were. I don't want to defend the PRC of course, but in the long run making misleading and hyperbolic claims just makes people look dishonest.

How is PRC different from Nazis then other than having a traditionally assimilationist culture instead of a segregationist one? That’s precisely how Russia which is also assimilationist instead of segregationist deals with populations they don’t like anyway..

[Feline Goetland]

It is not surprising per se, but it is sad we are not treating the PRC threat seriously enough.
They are a worse threat than the Soviets ever were.

I do agree we should not assume all ethnic Chinese are spies, and more importantly that the spies are only ethnic Chinese. “White” Americans, and Americans of all nationalities and races have been caught spying for the PRC.

A PRC spy could have blue eyes, blond hair and not any Asian descent at all.

In this case he was useful in being Tibetan as his fellow Tibetans would not think he was working against them, just as the Nazis used Jews to spy on Jews.

But the spies they use to spy on others might not be, the ideal PRC spy for spying on the general US population will be someone not Chinese at all. You cannot assume spies based on nationality or race, the best spy is the one you least expect.

My dad once told me that racially profiling Arabs at the airport was a waste of time because if Al Qaeda wanted, they'd get some jihadi Joe type (Think Finnish American, blonde hair and blue eyes, convert to Islam and radical Islam at that) to blow a plane up. Just as anyone of any race can be a jihadist, anyone can be a Chinese agent.

(Any iteration of) China won’t be able to send any devoted suicide bomber anywhere unlike Muslim groups and Japan for it lacks any military tradition and treats its own troops like shit. China thrives in confusion, corruption and peace and collapses in serious warfare. Hence the solution to the Sinostatist problem needs to be militaristic. China and the Sinostatist tradition need to be extinguished just like Prussia and its militarism. Then with China buried sane and healthy polities can be established.

[Feline Goetland]

Not surprising considering its normal for countries to send spies to another country. My only concern is that American-Chinese people in NYC are going to face more racism due to this incident.

Elimination of China is indeed an absolute necessity especially to people involuntarily associated with it including myself. The worst threat to people who have ancestral connection to China in history has always been whatever Sinostate there is at the moment. Sinostatism makes people weak, timid and easy to blackmail. Its harm needs several decades to undo.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Why do you think the PRC chose that?

New York is a hub of just about everything on the planet, including dissidents and enemies to the Chinese state. In this case it was a Tibetan loyalist keeping the PRC up to date on dissident activities overseas.

He wasn't the first and he's far from the last. PRC agents have masked themselves flawlessly into exchange students and other groups and we've known about it for years.

This is true

They have spies everywhere, they are trying their hardest to stop the biggest threat to totalitarianism and communism, which is America

[Novus America]

It is, but there were Russians, even occasionally Poles and Jews willing to work for the Nazis against their fellow people.
It is fucked up, but not horribly surprising.

To be fair, while the PRC might be discriminatory, they are hardly open self-proclaimed racial supremacists like the Nazis were. I don't want to defend the PRC of course, but in the long run making misleading and hyperbolic claims just makes people look dishonest.

I mean given Xi’s new Han supremacism, it is staring to look a lot more like early Nazi Germany. Things are changing, and for the worse. Xi is a different issue than his predecessors.

But sure they are not the exact same, but the method of using members of a persecuted minority as spies to infiltrate that minority is the same, it is not something unique to the Nazis.

My point was simply that this strategy is not unexpected, and any group large enough has some members willing to sell out to even those who wish to to horrible things to that group.

[Aeritai]

Not surprising considering its normal for countries to send spies to another country. My only concern is that American-Chinese people in NYC are going to face more racism due to this incident.

Elimination of China is indeed an absolute necessity especially to people involuntarily associated with it including myself. The worst threat to people who have ancestral connection to China in history has always been whatever Sinostate there is at the moment. Sinostatism makes people weak, timid and easy to blackmail. Its harm needs several decades to undo.

So I guess you believe that every Chinese-American is a spy for a PRC?

[Kexholm Karelia]

It is, but there were Russians, even occasionally Poles and Jews willing to work for the Nazis against their fellow people.
It is fucked up, but not horribly surprising.

To be fair, while the PRC might be discriminatory, they are hardly open self-proclaimed racial supremacists like the Nazis were. I don't want to defend the PRC of course, but in the long run making misleading and hyperbolic claims just makes people look dishonest.

Please explain to me how the Uyghur camps are any different from Holocaust camps?

[Feline Goetland]

Elimination of China is indeed an absolute necessity especially to people involuntarily associated with it including myself. The worst threat to people who have ancestral connection to China in history has always been whatever Sinostate there is at the moment. Sinostatism makes people weak, timid and easy to blackmail. Its harm needs several decades to undo.

So I guess you believe that every Chinese-American is a spy for a PRC?

No! In fact it is precisely because anti-PRC people of Chinese ancestry exist that the PRC needs to be eliminated ASAP. In fact any iteration of China is evil. However Sinostatism is a cultural phenomenon, not a racial one. It is not hereditary. Disconnection with China eliminates the source of continued infection in an individual and it is possible for people to be rehabilitated from Sinostatism in the same sense that one can recover from cults and other totalitarian ideologies such as fascism and communism.

[Feline Goetland]

To be fair, while the PRC might be discriminatory, they are hardly open self-proclaimed racial supremacists like the Nazis were. I don't want to defend the PRC of course, but in the long run making misleading and hyperbolic claims just makes people look dishonest.

Please explain to me how the Uyghur camps are any different from Holocaust camps?

They are comparable to the concentration, not extermination camps for now. Will extermination camps be the next step? I hope not.