Probably because NYC is the the largest transit hub in the Western world and almost any potential dissident will have to pass through it.
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by Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:19 pm
La xinga wrote:https://abc7ny.com/nypd-officer-arrested-for-acting-as-agent-of-china/6484676/NYPD officer Baimadajie Angwang, a community affairs officer in the 111 precinct in Queens and a US Army Reservist at Fort Dix, has been arrested for allegedly acting as an agent of China.
According to the criminal complaint, Angwang acted "at the direction and control" of Chinese government officials at the consulate in New York to report on the activities of ethnic Tibetans, assess potential ethnic Tibetan intelligence sources and use his official position at the police department to give consulate officials access to senior NYPD officials.
"None of these activities falls within the scope of Angwang's official duties and responsibilities with either the NYPD or the USAR," the complaint said.
Angwang, 33, is an ethnic Tibetan native of the People's Republic of China and a naturalized U.S. citizen who referred to himself as an "asset" of the People's Republic of China, according to the criminal complaint. Since June 2018, the FBI said Angwang has been "in frequent communication" with an unidentified Chinese consular official he referred to as "Boss."
In one phone call between Angwang and the consular official, the complaint said Angwang offered "to raise our country's soft power" by having the consular official attend NYPD events. He also allegedly offered to provide the consular official with nonpublic information about the internal workings of the police department.
"Angwang also discussed the utility of developing sources for the PRC government in the local Tibetan community and suggested that the primary qualification for a source as follows: 'If you're willing to recognize the motherland, the motherland is willing to assist you with its resources,'" the complaint said.
Since prior to 2018 and through the present, officials say Angwang has maintained a relationship with at least two People's Republic of China officials stationed at the Consulate. One PRC official is believed to have been assigned to the "China Association for Preservation and Development of Tibetan Culture," a division of the PRC's United Front Work Department ("UFWD"). The department is responsible for, among other things, neutralizing sources of potential opposition to the policies and authority of the PRC.
Recorded conversations have revealed that the PRC officials has been a "handler" of Angwang. He received tasks from them and reported back to PRC officials.
From August 21, 2014, through August 11, 2017, Angwang called and texted one of the PRC official's cellular telephone on at least 53 occasions. From in or about and between June 2018 through March 2020, Angwang called and texted the other PRC official's cellular telephone on at least 55 occasions.
Furthermore, Angwang has been observed entering the Consulate on numerous occasions during these time periods.
NYPD Police Commissioner Dermot Shea also commented on the situation.
"As alleged in this federal complaint, Baimadajie Angwang violated every oath he took in this country," Shea said in a statement. "One to the United States, another to the U.S. Army, and a third to this Police Department. From the earliest stages of this investigation, the NYPD's Intelligence and Internal Affairs bureaus worked closely with the FBI's Counterintelligence Division to make sure this individual would be brought to justice."
In 2018, the NYPD awarded Angwang "Officer of the Month" for his initiative and public service.
Cool story, but I'm troubled. Why the NYPD? The NYPD, like many other police forces in the nation, are not in the best shape. China could ahve chose a lot of stuff, yet, if this ends up being confirmed true, they chose a random city's police force.
Why do you think the PRC chose that?
by Ethel mermania » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:20 pm
by Gig em Aggies » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:20 pm
Punished UMN wrote:La xinga wrote:So why did the Chinese choose NYC? If it's because they have a consulate, they have an embassy in DC too, and there's a Tibetan community in DC.
Probably because NYC is the the largest transit hub in the Western world and almost any potential dissident will have to pass through it.
by Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:21 pm
by Gig em Aggies » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:24 pm
Feline Goetland wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:Why not?
The community isn't the issue, its the separatists they are interested in. If they are in nyc, here they spy
That’s probably only a part of the problem. What if..what if..China pays some cop who is probably white to shoot some black person and then pay both BLM and Proud Boys to protest? Hmm..I suspect that this has already happened.
by Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:25 pm
Gig em Aggies wrote:Feline Goetland wrote:
That’s probably only a part of the problem. What if..what if..China pays some cop who is probably white to shoot some black person and then pay both BLM and Proud Boys to protest? Hmm..I suspect that this has already happened.
Nice imagination there how about you leave problems between cops and African Americans out of a thread about China and spying on dissidents who are also Tibetans.
by Gig em Aggies » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:26 pm
by Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:28 pm
by Loben III » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:11 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:We haven't been doing enough to weed out the ChiCom spies in this country.
by Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:13 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:We haven't been doing enough to weed out the ChiCom spies in this country.
by Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:16 pm
by Greed and Death » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:17 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:La xinga wrote:Why do you think the PRC chose that?
New York is a hub of just about everything on the planet, including dissidents and enemies to the Chinese state. In this case it was a Tibetan loyalist keeping the PRC up to date on dissident activities overseas.
He wasn't the first and he's far from the last. PRC agents have masked themselves flawlessly into exchange students and other groups and we've known about it for years.
by Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:17 pm
Greed and Death wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
New York is a hub of just about everything on the planet, including dissidents and enemies to the Chinese state. In this case it was a Tibetan loyalist keeping the PRC up to date on dissident activities overseas.
He wasn't the first and he's far from the last. PRC agents have masked themselves flawlessly into exchange students and other groups and we've known about it for years.
He was an Asylum seeker having been tortured by the PRC himself.
I suspect they had his family
by Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:19 pm
Greed and Death wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
New York is a hub of just about everything on the planet, including dissidents and enemies to the Chinese state. In this case it was a Tibetan loyalist keeping the PRC up to date on dissident activities overseas.
He wasn't the first and he's far from the last. PRC agents have masked themselves flawlessly into exchange students and other groups and we've known about it for years.
He was an Asylum seeker having been tortured by the PRC himself.
I suspect they had his family
by Auristania » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:42 pm
PRC has population more than 1 billion, if 0.1 % of population are spies, then 1 million. You gotta send them somewhere. Ifn PRC sends all 1 million spies to the Pentagon, someone will notice.Why do you think the PRC chose that?
by Feline Goetland » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:48 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:La xinga wrote:Why do you think the PRC chose that?
New York is a hub of just about everything on the planet, including dissidents and enemies to the Chinese state. In this case it was a Tibetan loyalist keeping the PRC up to date on dissident activities overseas.
He wasn't the first and he's far from the last. PRC agents have masked themselves flawlessly into exchange students and other groups and we've known about it for years.
by Ikania » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:50 pm
Auristania wrote:PRC has population more than 1 billion, if 0.1 % of population are spies, then 1 million. You gotta send them somewhere. Ifn PRC sends all 1 million spies to the Pentagon, someone will notice.Why do you think the PRC chose that?
PRC wants info re Tibetan diaspora.
by Mathuvan Union » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:28 pm
North American Imperial State wrote:Well fuck, there goes any trust or respect for the New Yorks Finest.
by North American Imperial State » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:34 pm
by Gig em Aggies » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:07 pm
by Krasny-Volny » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:23 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:La xinga wrote:Why do you think the PRC chose that?
New York is a hub of just about everything on the planet, including dissidents and enemies to the Chinese state. In this case it was a Tibetan loyalist keeping the PRC up to date on dissident activities overseas.
He wasn't the first and he's far from the last. PRC agents have masked themselves flawlessly into exchange students and other groups and we've known about it for years.
by Shofercia » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:47 pm
La xinga wrote:https://abc7ny.com/nypd-officer-arrested-for-acting-as-agent-of-china/6484676/NYPD officer Baimadajie Angwang, a community affairs officer in the 111 precinct in Queens and a US Army Reservist at Fort Dix, has been arrested for allegedly acting as an agent of China.
According to the criminal complaint, Angwang acted "at the direction and control" of Chinese government officials at the consulate in New York to report on the activities of ethnic Tibetans, assess potential ethnic Tibetan intelligence sources and use his official position at the police department to give consulate officials access to senior NYPD officials.
"None of these activities falls within the scope of Angwang's official duties and responsibilities with either the NYPD or the USAR," the complaint said.
Angwang, 33, is an ethnic Tibetan native of the People's Republic of China and a naturalized U.S. citizen who referred to himself as an "asset" of the People's Republic of China, according to the criminal complaint. Since June 2018, the FBI said Angwang has been "in frequent communication" with an unidentified Chinese consular official he referred to as "Boss."
In one phone call between Angwang and the consular official, the complaint said Angwang offered "to raise our country's soft power" by having the consular official attend NYPD events. He also allegedly offered to provide the consular official with nonpublic information about the internal workings of the police department.
"Angwang also discussed the utility of developing sources for the PRC government in the local Tibetan community and suggested that the primary qualification for a source as follows: 'If you're willing to recognize the motherland, the motherland is willing to assist you with its resources,'" the complaint said.
Since prior to 2018 and through the present, officials say Angwang has maintained a relationship with at least two People's Republic of China officials stationed at the Consulate. One PRC official is believed to have been assigned to the "China Association for Preservation and Development of Tibetan Culture," a division of the PRC's United Front Work Department ("UFWD"). The department is responsible for, among other things, neutralizing sources of potential opposition to the policies and authority of the PRC.
Recorded conversations have revealed that the PRC officials has been a "handler" of Angwang. He received tasks from them and reported back to PRC officials.
From August 21, 2014, through August 11, 2017, Angwang called and texted one of the PRC official's cellular telephone on at least 53 occasions. From in or about and between June 2018 through March 2020, Angwang called and texted the other PRC official's cellular telephone on at least 55 occasions.
Furthermore, Angwang has been observed entering the Consulate on numerous occasions during these time periods.
NYPD Police Commissioner Dermot Shea also commented on the situation.
"As alleged in this federal complaint, Baimadajie Angwang violated every oath he took in this country," Shea said in a statement. "One to the United States, another to the U.S. Army, and a third to this Police Department. From the earliest stages of this investigation, the NYPD's Intelligence and Internal Affairs bureaus worked closely with the FBI's Counterintelligence Division to make sure this individual would be brought to justice."
In 2018, the NYPD awarded Angwang "Officer of the Month" for his initiative and public service.
Cool story, but I'm troubled. Why the NYPD? The NYPD, like many other police forces in the nation, are not in the best shape. China could ahve chose a lot of stuff, yet, if this ends up being confirmed true, they chose a random city's police force.
Why do you think the PRC chose that?
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