LGBT Issues/Support Thread

[The Alma Mater]

LGBT rights are human rights. Take away those rights and you become inhumane.

I'm gonna put myself out here. This is something I usually get a lot of hate and upsetting stuff for, but I'm just going to be brave and take the plunge. Come what may.

I'm a fictosexual.

This sexual identity refers to one who is exclusively attracted to fictional characters, and it is under the asexual spectrum. However, it's not a well-known sexuality and is very misunderstood. I get told a lot that it's not real/valid, that it's mocking LGBT, etc. It's hard to find a safe space within the community that is meant to be a safe space. I've tried to hide it, change my sexuality, try to force myself to be attracted to real people but it's never worked out for me. I really, really wish things could be different.

Intruiging. What exactly is 'fictional' in this context? Characters in a book described only with words, drawn characters in a comic, personas in movies (so e.g. you can be attracted to Snape, but not to Rickman) or... ?

[The H Corporation]

It is ironic to me how all of this discourse addresses supposed LGBT+ oppression in America when it is the actual alphabet letter community itself prohibiting people from expressing their entitled right to free opinions. I see more people quelled by the media or stigmatized if they do not comply with the new LGBT+ embracement agenda. For crying out loud, if you go to SAN DIEGO CA you will see rainbow flags on top of virtually every building and there is a metropolitan block engravened with the rainbow street. I know because I went and still live near there. The sex issue is getting incredibly bad. Especially in Europe. I do not hate anybody affiliated with this community but rather have sympathy for them. I do not hate gay people, after all, it is a psychological deficit society has fostered into the norm.

Yes, of course, the agenda of the media and any evil corporation is to make everyone part of the LGBT+ community so humanity goes extinct quicker due to the lack of reproduction... (Add more conspiracy theories here)

It has been proven that being gay is not a mental disease. And the fact that a flag bothers you... I mean is there any problem?

[The Alma Mater]

It is ironic to me how all of this discourse addresses supposed LGBT+ oppression in America when it is the actual alphabet letter community itself prohibiting people from expressing their entitled right to free opinions. I see more people quelled by the media or stigmatized if they do not comply with the new LGBT+ embracement agenda. For crying out loud, if you go to SAN DIEGO CA you will see rainbow flags on top of virtually every building and there is a metropolitan block engravened with the rainbow street. I know because I went and still live near there. The sex issue is getting incredibly bad. Especially in Europe. I do not hate anybody affiliated with this community but rather have sympathy for them. I do not hate gay people, after all, it is a psychological deficit society has fostered into the norm.

Yes, of course, the agenda of the media and any evil corporation is to make everyone part of the LGBT+ community so humanity goes extinct quicker due to the lack of reproduction... (Add more conspiracy theories here)

It has been proven that being gay is not a mental disease. And the fact that a flag bothers you... I mean is there any problem?

It is indeed intruiging how much it bothers people.

Take Disney. If Disney releases 3 movies with some gay representation (or other forms of diversity) and 97 without, the focus is completely on the 3 with claims that "woke has taken over Hollywood" and how "the rainbow is forced down peoples throats".

It is always fun to point this out and then ask what percentage of gay representation would be "acceptable" instead of "forced". It is especially fun to see people squirm to avoid answering that question if they do not wish to admit to being homophobic.

[The H Corporation]

Yes, of course, the agenda of the media and any evil corporation is to make everyone part of the LGBT+ community so humanity goes extinct quicker due to the lack of reproduction... (Add more conspiracy theories here)

It has been proven that being gay is not a mental disease. And the fact that a flag bothers you... I mean is there any problem?

It is indeed intruiging how much it bothers people.

Take Disney. If Disney releases 3 movies with some gay representation (or other forms of diversity) and 97 without, the focus is completely on the 3 with claims that "woke has taken over Hollywood" and how "the rainbow is forced down peoples throats".

It is always fun to point this out and then ask what percentage of gay representation would be "acceptable" instead of "forced". It is especially fun to see people squirm to avoid answering that question if they do not wish to admit to being homophobic.

I laugh a lot hearing about how this is all a conspiracy or something. Sometimes we imagine the craziest things...

[The Alma Mater]

It is indeed intruiging how much it bothers people.

Take Disney. If Disney releases 3 movies with some gay representation (or other forms of diversity) and 97 without, the focus is completely on the 3 with claims that "woke has taken over Hollywood" and how "the rainbow is forced down peoples throats".

It is always fun to point this out and then ask what percentage of gay representation would be "acceptable" instead of "forced". It is especially fun to see people squirm to avoid answering that question if they do not wish to admit to being homophobic.

I laugh a lot hearing about how this is all a conspiracy or something. Sometimes we imagine the craziest things...

If it is a conspiracy one can claim to hate conspiracies to justify being upset.
If it is not a conspiracy, justifying being upset requires self-reflection.

Conspiracies are easy.

[Diaboland]

Intruiging. What exactly is 'fictional' in this context? Characters in a book described only with words, drawn characters in a comic, personas in movies (so e.g. you can be attracted to Snape, but not to Rickman) or... ?

All of the above really. And funnily enough, Snape is one of my fictional crushes lol. I don't care about celebrities at all

[Floofybit]

I'm not bigoted or homophobic towards y'all. I don't get where this is coming from

You do not want gays to try to get equal rights, you do not want gays to show themselves in public, you prefer it if gays just pretend to be straight...

What exactly is YOUR definition of bigoted / homophobic?

I only didn't understand why others in the community were so outspoken about everything. It was just a concept I did not understand, but I get it now. I don't care if they show themselves in public, I just didn't want them shoving it in my face. I never preferred others to pretend to be something their not, I was just claiming that that was something I was doing, and it felt right for me.

[San Lumen]

You do not want gays to try to get equal rights, you do not want gays to show themselves in public, you prefer it if gays just pretend to be straight...

What exactly is YOUR definition of bigoted / homophobic?

I only didn't understand why others in the community were so outspoken about everything. It was just a concept I did not understand, but I get it now. I don't care if they show themselves in public, I just didn't want them shoving it in my face. I never preferred others to pretend to be something their not, I was just claiming that that was something I was doing, and it felt right for me.

How is it being shoved in your face?

[Floofybit]

Well, I get the intrusive thoughts, but it's also a choice who you marry, so even if you see many cute people of the same sex, you can still marry the opposite if you want to raise a family of your own making, a situation I find very relatable

Multiple things wrong here. First off, being gay is not a choice. Doing gay things may be a choice, sure, but simply being gay itself is not a choice.

I can understand and relate to this very well.

Suppressing your sexuality and marrying someone you aren't attracted to can cause severe emotional distress,

I'm willing to take this "risk"

and it seems as though you believe gay people should just ignore how they feel and marry someone of the opposite sex anyway.

There is no way I can decide what another person thinks.

Homosexuality isn't an "instrusive thought".

For me it is

It's as central and concrete to one's personhood as their eye color and hair color is. Also, same-sex couples can have families. I'm gay, and I plan on adopting and hope to provide my future kids with a homelife that's just as loving as it would be had they been adopted by a straight family.

I want to have a family of my own, that I made myself. I may have intrusive thoughts, but I really want to be with an opposite

Bold quotation is by me

[Floofybit]

I only didn't understand why others in the community were so outspoken about everything. It was just a concept I did not understand, but I get it now. I don't care if they show themselves in public, I just didn't want them shoving it in my face. I never preferred others to pretend to be something their not, I was just claiming that that was something I was doing, and it felt right for me.

How is it being shoved in your face?

Where I live, people like that can be very hostile towards me. Walking around with their pride flags, I don't care, but then calling me gay and telling me that's who I really am and should be really ticks me off because they are trying to convert me into something I'm not. I not this obviously isn't the nature of all the others in the community, but the people I'm around are trying to force me into something I'm not

[San Lumen]

How is it being shoved in your face?

Where I live, people like that can be very hostile towards me. Walking around with their pride flags, I don't care, but then calling me gay and telling me that's who I really am and should be really ticks me off because they are trying to convert me into something I'm not. I not this obviously isn't the nature of all the others in the community, but the people I'm around are trying to force me into something I'm not

No one is trying to convert you. This is utter nonsense. Your either gay or your not. It's not something you choose.

[Floofybit]

Where I live, people like that can be very hostile towards me. Walking around with their pride flags, I don't care, but then calling me gay and telling me that's who I really am and should be really ticks me off because they are trying to convert me into something I'm not. I not this obviously isn't the nature of all the others in the community, but the people I'm around are trying to force me into something I'm not

No one is trying to convert you. This is utter nonsense. Your either gay or your not. It's not something you choose.

Then how do I change?

[San Lumen]

No one is trying to convert you. This is utter nonsense. Your either gay or your not. It's not something you choose.

Then how do I change?

change what?

[The Holy Therns]

Then how do I change?

change what?

Pants.

[Aumbura]

Multiple things wrong here. First off, being gay is not a choice. Doing gay things may be a choice, sure, but simply being gay itself is not a choice.

I can understand and relate to this very well.

Suppressing your sexuality and marrying someone you aren't attracted to can cause severe emotional distress,

I'm willing to take this "risk"

and it seems as though you believe gay people should just ignore how they feel and marry someone of the opposite sex anyway.

There is no way I can decide what another person thinks.

Homosexuality isn't an "instrusive thought".

For me it is

It's as central and concrete to one's personhood as their eye color and hair color is. Also, same-sex couples can have families. I'm gay, and I plan on adopting and hope to provide my future kids with a homelife that's just as loving as it would be had they been adopted by a straight family.

I want to have a family of my own, that I made myself. I may have intrusive thoughts, but I really want to be with an opposite

Bold quotation is by me

Religious brain rot on full display here.

[Floofybit]

Then how do I change?

change what?

[Nitrana]

I think what they mean is that people who are queer are more outspoken about their identity. I don't really care about who you are or who you like, I just care about your personality. You don't see people running around with straight flags saying "I'm straight" but you do on the other side

I think what they mean is that they hate queer people and would prefer to imagine they don't exist, and feel upset when contradicted on that point.

Why should I hate queer people? In my country (Slovakia), there is an actual need for parades. When that need ends, and everyone accepts that “yes, that’s who they are, that’s who they were before, let them be” I think the parades should stop.

[Floofybit]

Bold quotation is by me

Religious brain rot on full display here.

I would have thought this without religion

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

change what?

To straight

Do you want to experience what it's like to be "brainwashed" by the PRC'ian Ministry for State Security? Because that's what "changing sexual orientation" amounts to, torture and brainwashing until you want to kill yourself.

[San Lumen]

change what?

To straight

You can't. You are who you are. Conversion therapy does not work. I know people who went through it and saying its not pleasant and amounts to torture is being generous.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

change what?

To straight

"You can't change your sexuality"
"so then how do i change my sexuality"

[Aghwank]

I am not going to mince words.

The ultimate goal of conservatives with regards to LGBT people is genocide. This is why they are making steps to push gay people back into the closet, into a place where LGBT people can be easily corralled for extermination.

It would be children's books that depict LGBT people, LGBT couples, ones that aren't even sexually explicit. Different-sex couple good, same-sex couple bad, says conservatives regarding children's books. It would be banning transgender healthcare across the board, making it astronomically impossible for transgender people to get the healthcare they need regarding gender transition. It would be banning transgender people from participating in sports, even mixed gender sports. Eventually it will extend to every single LGBT athlete being banned from sports across the board.

Eventually conservatives will take away LGBT people's livelihoods and property, making it impossible for them to sustainably live. Once this is done, they will ban homosexuality, transgenderism, and gender non-conformity.

Make no mistake, it is happening in front of your eyes.

as a rightist asexual i know this isnt what most conservatives are going for. saying the goal of conservatives is genocide is some flat earth conspiracy level shit.

[Aumbura]

Religious brain rot on full display here.

I would have thought this without religion

Ah, so you're just generally unintelligent. Got it. Thank you for the clarification.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I am not going to mince words.

The ultimate goal of conservatives with regards to LGBT people is genocide. This is why they are making steps to push gay people back into the closet, into a place where LGBT people can be easily corralled for extermination.

It would be children's books that depict LGBT people, LGBT couples, ones that aren't even sexually explicit. Different-sex couple good, same-sex couple bad, says conservatives regarding children's books. It would be banning transgender healthcare across the board, making it astronomically impossible for transgender people to get the healthcare they need regarding gender transition. It would be banning transgender people from participating in sports, even mixed gender sports. Eventually it will extend to every single LGBT athlete being banned from sports across the board.

Eventually conservatives will take away LGBT people's livelihoods and property, making it impossible for them to sustainably live. Once this is done, they will ban homosexuality, transgenderism, and gender non-conformity.

Make no mistake, it is happening in front of your eyes.

as a rightist asexual i know this isnt what most conservatives are going for. saying the goal of conservatives is genocide is some flat earth conspiracy level shit.

humanity's been there done this whole genocide thing before in the name of crushing "deviancy".
and the conservative movement as of 2022 isn't engendering any confidence in that it will not repeat the 1930's.

[Floofybit]

I would have thought this without religion

Ah, so you're just generally unintelligent. Got it. Thank you for the clarification.

You're welcome

Come on man. Having differing opinions doesn't mean I'm stupid