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Which of these best describe your identity?

Heterosexual
255
15%
Homosexual
128
8%
Bisexual
170
10%
Pansexual/Polysexual
73
4%
Asexual/Aro
101
6%
Cisgender
222
13%
Transgender
84
5%
He/Him
396
24%
She/Her
124
7%
They/Them or Other
110
7%
 
Total votes : 1663

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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:14 am

Floofybit wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:...you can also marry the same sex and raise a family of your own.

Well, yes, but I prioritize a family that me and my partner made, and only me and my partner, and not with outside sources or adoption, but that's just a thing I want.

Then I am glad you do not adopt.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:59 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:...you can also marry the same sex and raise a family of your own.

Well, yes, but I prioritize a family that me and my partner made, and only me and my partner, and not with outside sources or adoption, but that's just a thing I want.

Then congratulations - you don't have to adopt. Don't tell others to marry people they don't love. that's weird lmao.
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Postby Bingbomg » Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:01 pm

Palmyrion wrote:I am not going to mince words.

The ultimate goal of conservatives with regards to LGBT people is genocide. This is why they are making steps to push gay people back into the closet, into a place where LGBT people can be easily corralled for extermination.

It would be children's books that depict LGBT people, LGBT couples, ones that aren't even sexually explicit. Different-sex couple good, same-sex couple bad, says conservatives regarding children's books. It would be banning transgender healthcare across the board, making it astronomically impossible for transgender people to get the healthcare they need regarding gender transition. It would be banning transgender people from participating in sports, even mixed gender sports. Eventually it will extend to every single LGBT athlete being banned from sports across the board.

Eventually conservatives will take away LGBT people's livelihoods and property, making it impossible for them to sustainably live. Once this is done, they will ban homosexuality, transgenderism, and gender non-conformity.

Make no mistake, it is happening in front of your eyes.


Lmao

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Postby Floofybit » Tue Oct 18, 2022 5:09 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Well, yes, but I prioritize a family that me and my partner made, and only me and my partner, and not with outside sources or adoption, but that's just a thing I want.

Then congratulations - you don't have to adopt. Don't tell others to marry people they don't love. that's weird lmao.

When did I tell people that?
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:29 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:...you can also marry the same sex and raise a family of your own.

Well, yes, but I prioritize a family that me and my partner made, and only me and my partner, and not with outside sources or adoption, but that's just a thing I want.

Will your partner also just so happen to often wear a fursuit?
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Postby Tinhampton » Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:51 pm


Your article is, somehow, older than this thread.

Neutraligon wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Well, yes, but I prioritize a family that me and my partner made, and only me and my partner, and not with outside sources or adoption, but that's just a thing I want.

Then I am glad you do not adopt.

I don't either although that's mostly because of the fact that having to cope with one daughter for eighteen years (plus all holidays until summer 2019) was stressful enough. Ignore the fact I had a miscarriage back in 1999 and gave up on More Kids then :P
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:51 pm

Tinhampton wrote:

Your article is, somehow, older than this thread.

Neutraligon wrote:Then I am glad you do not adopt.

I don't either although that's mostly because of the fact that having to cope with one daughter for eighteen years (plus all holidays until summer 2019) was stressful enough. Ignore the fact I had a miscarriage back in 1999 and gave up on More Kids then :P

Huh, I was aiming for a different AB bill.

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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:09 am

Palmyrion wrote:I am not going to mince words.

The ultimate goal of conservatives with regards to LGBT people is genocide. This is why they are making steps to push gay people back into the closet, into a place where LGBT people can be easily corralled for extermination.

It would be children's books that depict LGBT people, LGBT couples, ones that aren't even sexually explicit. Different-sex couple good, same-sex couple bad, says conservatives regarding children's books. It would be banning transgender healthcare across the board, making it astronomically impossible for transgender people to get the healthcare they need regarding gender transition. It would be banning transgender people from participating in sports, even mixed gender sports. Eventually it will extend to every single LGBT athlete being banned from sports across the board.

Eventually conservatives will take away LGBT people's livelihoods and property, making it impossible for them to sustainably live. Once this is done, they will ban homosexuality, transgenderism, and gender non-conformity.

Make no mistake, it is happening in front of your eyes.
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:01 am

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Well, yes, but I prioritize a family that me and my partner made, and only me and my partner, and not with outside sources or adoption, but that's just a thing I want.

Will your partner also just so happen to often wear a fursuit?

What does that have to do with anything?
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Postby Nitrana » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:01 am

Floofybit wrote:I'm just here to say again that I am right wing, and the assumption that all right-wingers are homophobic is wrong.

Im right-wing too. I take every community as such:
Be who you are, I support that, but don’t stick it in front of my goddamned face.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:08 am

Nitrana wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I'm just here to say again that I am right wing, and the assumption that all right-wingers are homophobic is wrong.

Im right-wing too. I take every community as such:
Be who you are, I support that, but don’t stick it in front of my goddamned face.

If you don't want to see who other people are then I would suggest you stay at home and close the curtains.

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Postby Floofybit » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:11 am

Ifreann wrote:
Nitrana wrote:Im right-wing too. I take every community as such:
Be who you are, I support that, but don’t stick it in front of my goddamned face.

If you don't want to see who other people are then I would suggest you stay at home and close the curtains.

I think what they mean is that people who are queer are more outspoken about their identity. I don't really care about who you are or who you like, I just care about your personality. You don't see people running around with straight flags saying "I'm straight" but you do on the other side
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:19 am

Floofybit wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If you don't want to see who other people are then I would suggest you stay at home and close the curtains.

I think what they mean is that people who are queer are more outspoken about their identity. I don't really care about who you are or who you like, I just care about your personality. You don't see people running around with straight flags saying "I'm straight" but you do on the other side

They don't do it for no reason, though. You don't hate gay people, that's great, then those pride parades or expressions aren't for you. They are for the people that do.
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:20 am

Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I think what they mean is that people who are queer are more outspoken about their identity. I don't really care about who you are or who you like, I just care about your personality. You don't see people running around with straight flags saying "I'm straight" but you do on the other side

They don't do it for no reason, though. You don't hate gay people, that's great, then those pride parades or expressions aren't for you. They are for the people that do.

Why do they need to do it though? Can't they do what they like without making everyone else to view them as superior?
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Postby The H Corporation » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:24 am

Floofybit wrote:
Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:They don't do it for no reason, though. You don't hate gay people, that's great, then those pride parades or expressions aren't for you. They are for the people that do.

Why do they need to do it though? Can't they do what they like without making everyone else to view them as superior?

They don't think of themselves as superior. They parade so that everyone recognizes the hard work and the challenges they had to overcome to be treated as equal
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:25 am

Floofybit wrote:
Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:They don't do it for no reason, though. You don't hate gay people, that's great, then those pride parades or expressions aren't for you. They are for the people that do.

Why do they need to it though? Can't they do what they like without giving everyone else to view them as superior?

No, because gay people still aren't treated equally by the law. Black people didn't stop protesting when they were given the right to marry other races, why should gay people stop marching now that they have the right to marry the same sex?
Sitting down and shutting up when you are finally treated less unfairly isn't gonna get you to be treated totally fairly, will it?
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:28 am

Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Why do they need to it though? Can't they do what they like without giving everyone else to view them as superior?

No, because gay people still aren't treated equally by the law. Black people didn't stop protesting when they were given the right to marry other races, why should gay people stop marching now that they have the right to marry the same sex?
Sitting down and shutting up when you are finally treated less unfairly isn't gonna get you to be treated totally fairly, will it?

They can have their protests, sure, but they don't need to go their day to day life telling everyone
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:29 am

Floofybit wrote:
Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:No, because gay people still aren't treated equally by the law. Black people didn't stop protesting when they were given the right to marry other races, why should gay people stop marching now that they have the right to marry the same sex?
Sitting down and shutting up when you are finally treated less unfairly isn't gonna get you to be treated totally fairly, will it?

They can have their protests, sure, but they don't need to go their day to day life telling everyone


No one is doing that. Don't like pride parades then don't attend. That simple.

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Postby The H Corporation » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:30 am

Floofybit wrote:
Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:No, because gay people still aren't treated equally by the law. Black people didn't stop protesting when they were given the right to marry other races, why should gay people stop marching now that they have the right to marry the same sex?
Sitting down and shutting up when you are finally treated less unfairly isn't gonna get you to be treated totally fairly, will it?

They can have their protests, sure, but they don't need to go their day to day life telling everyone

Why not? Is it tiring to hear about their struggles? You can always just ignore them and continue with your life
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:31 am

Floofybit wrote:
Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:No, because gay people still aren't treated equally by the law. Black people didn't stop protesting when they were given the right to marry other races, why should gay people stop marching now that they have the right to marry the same sex?
Sitting down and shutting up when you are finally treated less unfairly isn't gonna get you to be treated totally fairly, will it?

They can have their protests, sure, but they don't need to go their day to day life telling everyone

That's why they don't. Also, considering the pain many go through after living in the closet for perhaps decades, i think they should get a little bit of lenience in saying proudly they are gay, even if it's a bit annoying. But, the vast majority of gay people you wouldn't even tell are gay, it's just pride parades and the awfully stereotyped media that paints them out to be so... fabulous.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:36 am

Floofybit wrote:
Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:No, because gay people still aren't treated equally by the law. Black people didn't stop protesting when they were given the right to marry other races, why should gay people stop marching now that they have the right to marry the same sex?
Sitting down and shutting up when you are finally treated less unfairly isn't gonna get you to be treated totally fairly, will it?

They can have their protests, sure, but they don't need to go their day to day life telling everyone


Why not?
But if you want them to shut up, you could always help them get equal rights. Simple solution, no?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:37 am

Floofybit wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If you don't want to see who other people are then I would suggest you stay at home and close the curtains.

I think what they mean is that people who are queer are more outspoken about their identity. I don't really care about who you are or who you like, I just care about your personality. You don't see people running around with straight flags saying "I'm straight" but you do on the other side

I think what they mean is that they hate queer people and would prefer to imagine they don't exist, and feel upset when contradicted on that point.

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Postby Floofybit » Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:36 am

Ifreann wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I think what they mean is that people who are queer are more outspoken about their identity. I don't really care about who you are or who you like, I just care about your personality. You don't see people running around with straight flags saying "I'm straight" but you do on the other side

I think what they mean is that they hate queer people and would prefer to imagine they don't exist, and feel upset when contradicted on that point.

I dont
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Postby Bewaffnete Krafte » Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:45 am

Floofybit wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I think what they mean is that they hate queer people and would prefer to imagine they don't exist, and feel upset when contradicted on that point.

I dont
Getting awfully defensive considering they said "they" not "you" when talking to you.
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Postby Floofybit » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:26 am

Bewaffnete Krafte wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I dont
Getting awfully defensive considering they said "they" not "you" when talking to you.

Well who else could they be referring too? Also, what's wrong with being defensive?
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