LGBT Issues/Support Thread

[The United Federations of the Americas]

It depends on how extreme you go. Communists in China are also notoriously anti-LGBT and they're on the left side of the spectrum.

China is not left-wing

I'd say they're more centrist on economics, but definitely left leaning overall.

Edit: fixed a grammar mistake.

[Necroghastia]

China is not left-wing

I'd say they're more centrist on economics, but definitely left leaning overall.

Edit: fixed a grammar mistake.

What precisely is "left-leaning" about them?

[The H Corporation]

China is not left-wing

I'd say they're more centrist on economics, but definitely left leaning overall.

Edit: fixed a grammar mistake.

I don't want to threadjack this thread which has nothing to do with China. But there is nothing left-leaning about China

[Ifreann]

Conservatives aren't trying to genocide LGBT people, they just want to enact policies that would make it impossible and illegal to be openly or even secretly LGBT. They don't want to kill anyone, just create conditions so horrible that they kill themselves.

[Sordhau]

And which side of the political spectrum is currently trying to legislate LGBT+ people out of existence any way they can?

It depends on how extreme you go. Communists in China are also notoriously anti-LGBT and they're on the left side of the spectrum.

China is not left-wing

I'd say they're more centrist on economics, but definitely left leaning overall.

Edit: fixed a grammar mistake.

China has not been "Left-wing" or even "Left-leaning" since the premiership of Deng Xiaoping took the country in a hard rightward turn. It is by every metric conservative and capitalist with increasingly Fascistic tendencies.

[Major-Tom]

It depends on how extreme you go. Communists in China are also notoriously anti-LGBT and they're on the left side of the spectrum.

I'd say they're more centrist on economics, but definitely left leaning overall.

Edit: fixed a grammar mistake.

China has not been "Left-wing" or even "Left-leaning" since the premiership of Deng Xiaoping took the country in a hard rightward turn. It is by every metric conservative and capitalist with increasingly Fascistic tendencies.

Maybe the better distinction when talking about LGBT issues is "socially authoritarian" vs "socially permissive;" not between leftist and non-leftist.

Many left-wing governments, particularly those in Latin America and parts of Asia, have certainly been left-wing in terms of economic policy and global outlook; but still quite anti-LGBT.

[Sordhau]

China has not been "Left-wing" or even "Left-leaning" since the premiership of Deng Xiaoping took the country in a hard rightward turn. It is by every metric conservative and capitalist with increasingly Fascistic tendencies.

Maybe the better distinction when talking about LGBT issues is "socially authoritarian" vs "socially permissive;" not between leftist and non-leftist.

Many left-wing governments, particularly those in Latin America and parts of Asia, have certainly been left-wing in terms of economic policy and global outlook; but still quite anti-LGBT.

A trend which is thankfully changing.

[Transsibiria]

Because I'm telling you that I used to be you about 3 years ago. You are wrong now, just as I was back then. My entire worldview was forged when I came to the gross realization that Dems don't care about working people or minorities outside of election season

Wait you didn knew that before? Three years ago? So in 2020 or after Biden came to power?

that the GOP will gleefully and happily expand our already-existent police state to dystopian levels to stay in power and appeal to their increasingly radical base

American GOP supporters I know tell me that democrats are massively restraining police from engaging street crime in fears of being accaused of racism or having more incidents and that theres serious economic issues. Democrat supporters I know tell me with insistence that there is not such problems in the US at the moment at all and that everything is going well and that the only problem is the GOP and their supporters.

It's has gone difficult if not impossible to verify any of such nowadays.

[The Itzgari]

Why I myself am not LGBT

I still think that LGBT people should be treated respectfully and like the rest of us human beings.

[Sordhau]

Because I'm telling you that I used to be you about 3 years ago. You are wrong now, just as I was back then. My entire worldview was forged when I came to the gross realization that Dems don't care about working people or minorities outside of election season

Wait you didn knew that before? Three years ago? So in 2020 or after Biden came to power?

that the GOP will gleefully and happily expand our already-existent police state to dystopian levels to stay in power and appeal to their increasingly radical base

American GOP supporters I know tell me that democrats are massively restraining police from engaging street crime in fears of being accaused of racism or having more incidents and that theres serious economic issues. Democrat supporters I know tell me with insistence that there is not such problems in the US at the moment at all and that everything is going well and that the only problem is the GOP and their supporters.

It's has gone difficult if not impossible to verify any of such nowadays.

No, I knew it before Biden but I still held onto the "vote blue no matter who" bullshit.

[Ifreann]

Wait you didn knew that before? Three years ago? So in 2020 or after Biden came to power?



American GOP supporters I know tell me that democrats are massively restraining police from engaging street crime in fears of being accaused of racism or having more incidents and that theres serious economic issues. Democrat supporters I know tell me with insistence that there is not such problems in the US at the moment at all and that everything is going well and that the only problem is the GOP and their supporters.

It's has gone difficult if not impossible to verify any of such nowadays.

No, I knew it before Biden but I still held onto the "vote blue no matter who" bullshit.

Aren't you only in your twenties?

[Greater Guantanamo]

If it can be proven false, then where's the proof?

Here.

- Out of the top five deadliest rulers in history - Mao Zedong, Chinggis Khagan, Timur, Kublai Khan, and Adolf Hitler - only one was a white male.
- The largest serial killer in history, Luis Garavito, is Latino.
- The largest committer of infanticide in history, Miyuki Ishikawa, was a Japanese woman.
- The largest (confirmed) rampage killer of all time, Gameel Al-Batouti, was Arab. Excluding him, the second-largest was either Jin Ruchao, a Chinese man, or Sano Jirōzaemon, a Japanese man.
- The deadliest terrorist in history, Osama bin Laden, was Arab.

Note how only one of those people was a white male.

Damn you have changed, hispida.

[Greater Guantanamo]

What is the difference between Bisexual and Pansexual/polysexual?

[Armeattla]

All three are technically describing the same/similar behaviour, just using different descriptions.
Bisexuality is usually defined as "attraction to people of your own gender and not of your own gender".
Pansexuality is usually defined as "attraction to people regardless of their gender" - which actually used to be the definition of the Bi communist for Bisexuality before it got mainstreamed.
Polysexuality is usually defined as "attraction towards people of multiple genders" and it is a technically a MOGAI term.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The Republic of Turkey, which is governed like a typical Islamic Middle Eastern country, is getting more and more homophobia. I'm on the side of love as a hetero ally, and homophobia makes me sick to my stomach. What I'm about to write will offend some so-called social democrats, but the LGBTQ must radicalize. Until love is free, LGBTQ supporters must be radicalized! As soldiers of love, we must be the nightmare of homophobes.

[Free Algerstonia]

The Republic of Turkey, which is governed like a typical Islamic Middle Eastern country, is getting more and more homophobia. I'm on the side of love as a hetero ally, and homophobia makes me sick to my stomach. What I'm about to write will offend some so-called social democrats, but the LGBTQ must radicalize. Until love is free, LGBTQ supporters must be radicalized! As soldiers of love, we must be the nightmare of homophobes.

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thoughts on homosexual kurds?

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The Republic of Turkey, which is governed like a typical Islamic Middle Eastern country, is getting more and more homophobia. I'm on the side of love as a hetero ally, and homophobia makes me sick to my stomach. What I'm about to write will offend some so-called social democrats, but the LGBTQ must radicalize. Until love is free, LGBTQ supporters must be radicalized! As soldiers of love, we must be the nightmare of homophobes.

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thoughts on homosexual kurds?

Republic of Turkey genetically, 15% consists of Kurdish people. they are attacked by homophobes because they are gay + they are subjected to racism by racist people because they are genetically Kurdish.LGBTQ should be defended with nationalist sentiments without discriminating between Turks, Kurds, Arabs, Armenians. Regardless of LGBTQ Turkish, Kurdish, Arab or Armenian, Civil Nationalism should be defended with feelings. All citizens should shout with one voice against homophobes and racists ! I see Kurdish nationalist and ultra-left parties in Turkey more determined and consistent in the LGBTQ struggle than other parties. I want to see the same consistency in social democratic Kemalist parties.

[San Lumen]

The Republic of Turkey, which is governed like a typical Islamic Middle Eastern country, is getting more and more homophobia. I'm on the side of love as a hetero ally, and homophobia makes me sick to my stomach. What I'm about to write will offend some so-called social democrats, but the LGBTQ must radicalize. Until love is free, LGBTQ supporters must be radicalized! As soldiers of love, we must be the nightmare of homophobes.

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define radicalize. What do you want them to do?

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

The Republic of Turkey, which is governed like a typical Islamic Middle Eastern country, is getting more and more homophobia. I'm on the side of love as a hetero ally, and homophobia makes me sick to my stomach. What I'm about to write will offend some so-called social democrats, but the LGBTQ must radicalize. Until love is free, LGBTQ supporters must be radicalized! As soldiers of love, we must be the nightmare of homophobes.

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define radicalize. What do you want them to do?

Kiss men harder!

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

The Republic of Turkey, which is governed like a typical Islamic Middle Eastern country, is getting more and more homophobia. I'm on the side of love as a hetero ally, and homophobia makes me sick to my stomach. What I'm about to write will offend some so-called social democrats, but the LGBTQ must radicalize. Until love is free, LGBTQ supporters must be radicalized! As soldiers of love, we must be the nightmare of homophobes.

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define radicalize. What do you want them to do?

We must organize and shout in the streets every day of the year, not just one day of the year. we should paint the streets with LGBTQ colors. When I say this in Turkish LGBTQ organizations, they accuse me of being a fascist. No, homophobes are our enemies, freedom of love is valuable enough to be radicalized. I want homosexuals to freely love life. I want to see the days when Gays and Lesbians get married in Turkey. LGBTQ freedom will come to the Turkish Constitution!

[Sordhau]

No, I knew it before Biden but I still held onto the "vote blue no matter who" bullshit.

Aren't you only in your twenties?

What's your point?

[Armeattla]

define radicalize. What do you want them to do?

Kiss men harder!

Kiss women harder!

[Sordhau]

Kiss men harder!

Kiss women harder!

I'd settle for just holding hands at this point.

[Ifreann]

Aren't you only in your twenties?

What's your point?

I don't think you need to make excuses for having been a liberal until a few years ago.

[Sordhau]

What's your point?

I don't think you need to make excuses for having been a liberal until a few years ago.

Why is that?