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Which of these best describe your identity?

Heterosexual
255
15%
Homosexual
129
8%
Bisexual
171
10%
Pansexual/Polysexual
74
4%
Asexual/Aro
103
6%
Cisgender
224
13%
Transgender
84
5%
He/Him
399
24%
She/Her
124
7%
They/Them or Other
111
7%
 
Total votes : 1674

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Sylh Alanor
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Postby Sylh Alanor » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:08 pm

Just wishing you luck on this thread, OP! It's a necessary thing to have support, and NSG can be pretty dark for LGBT people. I don't really participate in NSG anymore, but I'll enjoy reading up on this thread now and again (Biromantic/Ace woman here btw).
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Great Jenovah
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Postby Great Jenovah » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:09 pm

Hopefully this thread works out.
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Rainbow Forest
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Postby Rainbow Forest » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:10 pm

Sylh Alanor wrote:Just wishing you luck on this thread, OP! It's a necessary thing to have support, and NSG can be pretty dark for LGBT people. I don't really participate in NSG anymore, but I'll enjoy reading up on this thread now and again (Biromantic/Ace woman here btw).

Yeah, while most people here don't just spew hate to us, there are still a lot of people who clearly subconsciously hate us. It's very nice to meet other LGBT people in the same boat, makes life better.
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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:08 pm

I mean as long as this thread is about LGBT discussion, all-positive or not, I would say it merits staying, what with the Trans thread being a thing and no dumb transphobic jokes and memes are allowed on there.

Speaking of, how do you guys feel about John Waters being a major LGBT figure. Me, as a connoisseur of trash and bad art, I adore the creepy man :lol: Kind of a weird political figure but IMO weird is best.
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Geneviev
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:10 pm

Rainbow Forest wrote:I am scared to come out even though my parents are very liberal and nothing bad would happen to me

Do not fear, I'm probably more scared. :p

There is good reason to be scared, honestly. It's a perfectly reasonable fear.
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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:13 pm

Rainbow Forest wrote:I am scared to come out even though my parents are very liberal and nothing bad would happen to me


Not their business tbh, if you don't wanna come out that's your deal.

But don't stay in the closet forever, k :3

We should be happy and unashamed to be ourselves, especially if it doesn't hurt anyone at all.
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Postby Rainbow Forest » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:18 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Rainbow Forest wrote:I am scared to come out even though my parents are very liberal and nothing bad would happen to me


Not their business tbh, if you don't wanna come out that's your deal.

But don't stay in the closet forever, k :3

We should be happy and unashamed to be ourselves, especially if it doesn't hurt anyone at all.

But that one part of my brain says NO, soooo :/
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Sycar
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Postby Sycar » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:20 pm

I'm not LGBT or have ever considered it, however I have no problems at all with people who are and support them wholeheartedly. I've heard many different stories from LGBT friends of moments that made them start to question their sexuality, and I was wondering if anyone else would like to share? The only time I questioned my sexuality was the first time I saw Captain America: The First Avenger and Cap came out of the super soldier capsule.
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Cordel One
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Postby Cordel One » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:03 pm

I'm sure you've all heard this a million times but you're all valid and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.

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RiderSyl
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:06 pm

Cordel One wrote:I'm sure you've all heard this a million times but you're all valid and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.

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Postby Rainbow Forest » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:06 pm

Cordel One wrote:I'm sure you've all heard this a million times but you're all valid and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong.

^This
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New haven america
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Postby New haven america » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:07 pm

Well here's another sexuality megathread that's gonna die in a few weeks.
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Hawta
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Postby Hawta » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:10 pm

New haven america wrote:Well here's another sexuality megathread that's gonna die in a few weeks.


The thread may die, but the spirit remains.
That's why these threads keep on coming.

Nice, right?

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Rainbow Forest
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Postby Rainbow Forest » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:12 pm

New haven america wrote:Well here's another sexuality megathread that's gonna die in a few weeks.

Hawta wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well here's another sexuality megathread that's gonna die in a few weeks.


The thread may die, but the spirit remains.
That's why these threads keep on coming.

Nice, right?

There are two types of people.
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Wuchu
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Postby Wuchu » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:12 pm

Rainbow Forest wrote:I am scared to come out even though my parents are very liberal and nothing bad would happen to me

I know a lot of people like this, and I live in probably one of the most liberal countries on Earth. It's a valid anxiety; even if you're not going to be threatened or hurt, you're still revealing a very personal aspect of your life.

With the growing acceptance of LGBTQ+ people, I've seen a very toxic trend growing in many queer communities. Many people - some unintentionally - pressure queer people with liberal parents/in liberal societies to "come out already!"

Similarly, the question "why haven't you come out yet?" is incredibly hurtful and anxiety-inducing.
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Nuroblav
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Postby Nuroblav » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:01 am

The Rich Port wrote:Speaking of, how do you guys feel about John Waters being a major LGBT figure. Me, as a connoisseur of trash and bad art, I adore the creepy man :lol: Kind of a weird political figure but IMO weird is best.

For some reason I'm thinking more along the lines of someone like Rob Halford or Freddie Mercury. There's gonna be a few musicians around that area.
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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:47 am

Nuroblav wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Speaking of, how do you guys feel about John Waters being a major LGBT figure. Me, as a connoisseur of trash and bad art, I adore the creepy man :lol: Kind of a weird political figure but IMO weird is best.

For some reason I'm thinking more along the lines of someone like Rob Halford or Freddie Mercury. There's gonna be a few musicians around that area.


Those are pretty good too, I'm actually a huge Priest fan :lol:
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Blueflarst
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Postby Blueflarst » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:54 am

The LGBT is a collective which disturbs the young people with ideas about sexual orientation and suppossed rights that did not exist until 1990.
They argument that they defend the rights of self called sexual minorities as if they were libertarians, but they also campaign for government action againist their enemies and restrictive laws restricting the freedom of speech and enforcing political correction againist anyone opposing them.

They use methods like the social exclusion of conservative minds specially in the young groups, brainwashing with idealist and subjetive views of the reality in schools and associations.
I have seen in my country programs from the group promoting masturbation among 4 years old and instructions of ways of doing the 69 explained on schools in Sabadell Barcelona.
They say that they spread tolerance and at the same time they use agressive ways to promote their views.
They call anyone that does not support their views as homophbic, heterofascist and patriarchal and other bullshit terms like these.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:04 am

Rainbow Forest wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well here's another sexuality megathread that's gonna die in a few weeks.

Hawta wrote:
The thread may die, but the spirit remains.
That's why these threads keep on coming.

Nice, right?

There are two types of people.


Ah yes, the two genders :p
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:05 am

Blueflarst wrote:The LGBT is a collective which disturbs the young people with ideas about sexual orientation and suppossed rights that did not exist until 1990.
They argument that they defend the rights of self called sexual minorities as if they were libertarians, but they also campaign for government action againist their enemies and restrictive laws restricting the freedom of speech and enforcing political correction againist anyone opposing them.

They use methods like the social exclusion of conservative minds specially in the young groups, brainwashing with idealist and subjetive views of the reality in schools and associations.
I have seen in my country programs from the group promoting masturbation among 4 years old and instructions of ways of doing the 69 explained on schools in Sabadell Barcelona.
They say that they spread tolerance and at the same time they use agressive ways to promote their views.
They call anyone that does not support their views as homophbic, heterofascist and patriarchal and other bullshit terms like these.


Meanwhile, in reality...
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:09 am

>the LGBT is a collective
>proceeds to describe things even most radical activists would disagree with

You're ascribing views to the entire hive when they're not held even by the queens.
Are these "human rights" in the room with us right now?
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Postby Blueflarst » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:12 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:>the LGBT is a collective
>proceeds to describe things even most radical activists would disagree with

You're ascribing views to the entire hive when they're not held even by the queens.

I have seen that things done in my country, i was two years in an school were the pro LGBT students used to insult others with terms like the ones i mentioned and i have seen their propaganda on my school promoted by an anarchist syndicate named Purna
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:17 am

Blueflarst wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:>the LGBT is a collective
>proceeds to describe things even most radical activists would disagree with

You're ascribing views to the entire hive when they're not held even by the queens.

I have seen that things done in my country, i was two years in an school were the pro LGBT students used to insult others with terms like the ones i mentioned and i have seen their propaganda on my school promoted by an anarchist syndicate named Purna


And the plural of anecdote is data, apparently.
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Postby Blueflarst » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:18 am

Vassenor wrote:
Blueflarst wrote:The LGBT is a collective which disturbs the young people with ideas about sexual orientation and suppossed rights that did not exist until 1990.
They argument that they defend the rights of self called sexual minorities as if they were libertarians, but they also campaign for government action againist their enemies and restrictive laws restricting the freedom of speech and enforcing political correction againist anyone opposing them.

They use methods like the social exclusion of conservative minds specially in the young groups, brainwashing with idealist and subjetive views of the reality in schools and associations.
I have seen in my country programs from the group promoting masturbation among 4 years old and instructions of ways of doing the 69 explained on schools in Sabadell Barcelona.
They say that they spread tolerance and at the same time they use agressive ways to promote their views.
They call anyone that does not support their views as homophbic, heterofascist and patriarchal and other bullshit terms like these.


Meanwhile, in reality...

I forgot to mention that i was asked for sex by a degenerate man with more than 38 years in 2019 when i only had 19 years and he was a member of your association so do not be surprised if i dislike it
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:19 am

Blueflarst wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:>the LGBT is a collective
>proceeds to describe things even most radical activists would disagree with

You're ascribing views to the entire hive when they're not held even by the queens.

I have seen that things done in my country, i was two years in an school were the pro LGBT students used to insult others with terms like the ones i mentioned and i have seen their propaganda on my school promoted by an anarchist syndicate named Purna

"My limited, anecdotal experience with [group] must apply to the entirety of [group] worldwide!" - your brain on wrong

Blueflarst wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Meanwhile, in reality...

I forgot to mention that <censoring this> and he was a member of your association so do not be surprised if i dislike it

First of all, LGBT isn't an association that people have memberships for. You don't get a member card like a gym. And second, that type of individual is called a creep and they come in all types.
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