NATION

PASSWORD

LGBT Issues/Support Thread

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Which of these best describe your identity?

Heterosexual
255
15%
Homosexual
128
8%
Bisexual
170
10%
Pansexual/Polysexual
73
4%
Asexual/Aro
101
6%
Cisgender
222
13%
Transgender
84
5%
He/Him
396
24%
She/Her
124
7%
They/Them or Other
110
7%
 
Total votes : 1663

User avatar
New-Minneapolis
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1635
Founded: Oct 19, 2022
Capitalist Paradise

Postby New-Minneapolis » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:39 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Floofybit wrote:When... When have I ever? When have I ever advocated torture

throwing ppl in american prison for "sodomy" like most of you lot want is torture


Only a tiny minority want to re-criminalize sodomy. The most they want is similar to what Thatcher’s government did with Section 28
31 year-old multiracial Hispanic cisgender gay male with Neurofibromatosis type 1. Neurodivergent. Yes, I do live in Minneapolis.
Gamer. Agnostic Atheist. Civic Nationalist. Hawkish & Centrist.


Do NOT TG me unless you feel it's absolutely necessary.

User avatar
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 25005
Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:40 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:throwing ppl in american prison for "sodomy" like most of you lot want is torture


Only a tiny minority want to re-criminalize sodomy. The most they want is similar to what Thatcher’s government did with Section 28

yeah and the european far-right "only" want to kick me and others to Kabul

User avatar
Floofybit
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5221
Founded: Sep 11, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Floofybit » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:42 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
Only a tiny minority want to re-criminalize sodomy. The most they want is similar to what Thatcher’s government did with Section 28

yeah and the european far-right "only" want to kick me and others to Kabul

If you keep treating me like a violent extremist I'll start treating you like a violent leftist
Religious demibisexual male furry who really, really loves fruit
Foxlington News
Fruit addiction terrorises Floofs, no known cure has been found | After various petitions, the woman arrested for having "too many favourite colours" due to be released in 2034, has now been let free. "I'll be more decisive next time," she stated | Stash of tangerine juice found in high-ranking government official's home in Peachton, accused of "not sharing with the rest of us" | Peachton man identifies as a pomelo, watch his story
Safety > Freedom
I love the life of fur
"Gotta be some Disneyland style utopia for either people and dogs or... anthropomorphic animals."

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159039
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:48 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:throwing ppl in american prison for "sodomy" like most of you lot want is torture


Only a tiny minority want to re-criminalize sodomy. The most they want is similar to what Thatcher’s government did with Section 28

Thing is, the people who want to re-criminalise sodomy are politicians with the power to do it.

User avatar
New haven america
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43454
Founded: Oct 08, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby New haven america » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:58 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:throwing ppl in american prison for "sodomy" like most of you lot want is torture


Only a tiny minority want to re-criminalize sodomy. The most they want is similar to what Thatcher’s government did with Section 28

Said tiny minority runs SCOTUS atm.
Human of the male variety
Will accept TGs
Char/Axis 2024

That's all folks~

User avatar
New haven america
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43454
Founded: Oct 08, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby New haven america » Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:02 am

Floofybit wrote:
New haven america wrote:Or your opinion that being gay is sin, despite being gay yourself and showing no sign of relenting on that belief, despite the obvious mental anguish you go through due to holding these conservative beliefs.

One side thinks lgbt people are a sin or crime against nature, the other thinks the lgbt people is fine. Wonder what the better option for an lgbt person is?

Conservative.

Well yes, you're 14, you want to go with the edgiest answer possible.

Tis neither original nor clever.
Human of the male variety
Will accept TGs
Char/Axis 2024

That's all folks~

User avatar
Aggicificicerous
Minister
 
Posts: 2148
Founded: Apr 24, 2007
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Aggicificicerous » Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:04 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:throwing ppl in american prison for "sodomy" like most of you lot want is torture


Only a tiny minority want to re-criminalize sodomy. The most they want is similar to what Thatcher’s government did with Section 28


'The rest want to ban mentioning queer people' is not the reassurance you might think it is.

User avatar
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 25005
Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:05 am

Aggicificicerous wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
Only a tiny minority want to re-criminalize sodomy. The most they want is similar to what Thatcher’s government did with Section 28


'The rest want to ban mentioning queer people' is not the reassurance you might think it is.

besides we've got the whole "banning mentioning anybody but heteros" experiment done already. It's called the Russian "Federation" and it's an absolute fascistoid shithole for anybody not rich, white, aryan, aggressively heterosexual and russian orthodox
Last edited by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary on Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:06 am, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
New haven america
Post Czar
 
Posts: 43454
Founded: Oct 08, 2012
Left-Leaning College State

Postby New haven america » Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:06 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Aggicificicerous wrote:
'The rest want to ban mentioning queer people' is not the reassurance you might think it is.

besides we've got the whole "banning mentioning anybody but heteros" experiment done already. It's called the Russian "Federation" and it's an absolute *fascistoid shithole

*GOP wet dream

FTFY
Last edited by New haven america on Sat Oct 22, 2022 7:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
Human of the male variety
Will accept TGs
Char/Axis 2024

That's all folks~

User avatar
New-Minneapolis
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1635
Founded: Oct 19, 2022
Capitalist Paradise

Postby New-Minneapolis » Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:02 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Aggicificicerous wrote:
'The rest want to ban mentioning queer people' is not the reassurance you might think it is.

besides we've got the whole "banning mentioning anybody but heteros" experiment done already. It's called the Russian "Federation" and it's an absolute fascistoid shithole for anybody not rich, white, aryan, aggressively heterosexual and russian orthodox






I was referring to the policy of not mentioning LGBT subjects in public schools
31 year-old multiracial Hispanic cisgender gay male with Neurofibromatosis type 1. Neurodivergent. Yes, I do live in Minneapolis.
Gamer. Agnostic Atheist. Civic Nationalist. Hawkish & Centrist.


Do NOT TG me unless you feel it's absolutely necessary.

User avatar
Deuster
Political Columnist
 
Posts: 3
Founded: Oct 22, 2022
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Deuster » Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:05 am

The sims? I've played it before. I've also played mysims agents. It was good and had a good story.
Lore nation for Calenoa.
Run by the same person who runs Calenoa.
Female
From Deutschland
Living in the US currently
Languages: Deutsch, und Englisch
I am Autistic and tend to take things literally
Spine = Slanted
Currently obsessed with TF2.
Bit of a Geography and History nerd.
Polyamorous-Bisexual
"Führer Günther Ludwig vill be speaking now"
NS STATS CANON UNLESS SAID OTHERWISE!
THIS NATION DOES NOT REPRESENT MY PERSONAL VIEWS
Not very active on forums because of real life.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159039
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:09 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:besides we've got the whole "banning mentioning anybody but heteros" experiment done already. It's called the Russian "Federation" and it's an absolute fascistoid shithole for anybody not rich, white, aryan, aggressively heterosexual and russian orthodox






I was referring to the policy of not mentioning LGBT subjects in public schools

Republicans are already going further and trying to ban any mention of anything related to gender or sexual orientation from all federally funded institutions.

User avatar
Grenartia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 44623
Founded: Feb 14, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Grenartia » Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:14 am

Drongonia wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
Back to the topic at hand. Not every minority has a leftist viewpoint because minorities are not a monolith

This concept baffles the leftist. They seethe at the thought of not being able to control those within groups they're supposed to dominate.


No, we just don't understand people who support things that are objectively bad for them.
Lib-left. Antifascist, antitankie, anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist (including the imperialism of non-western countries). Christian (Unitarian Universalist). Background in physics.
Mostly a girl. She or they pronouns, please. Unrepentant transbian.
Reject tradition, embrace modernity.
People who call themselves based NEVER are.
The truth about kids transitioning.

User avatar
Aggicificicerous
Minister
 
Posts: 2148
Founded: Apr 24, 2007
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Aggicificicerous » Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:16 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:besides we've got the whole "banning mentioning anybody but heteros" experiment done already. It's called the Russian "Federation" and it's an absolute fascistoid shithole for anybody not rich, white, aryan, aggressively heterosexual and russian orthodox






I was referring to the policy of not mentioning LGBT subjects in public schools


Yes, clearly we both understood that and were not impressed.
Last edited by Aggicificicerous on Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:16 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Grenartia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 44623
Founded: Feb 14, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Grenartia » Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:17 am

Floofybit wrote:
New haven america wrote:Or your opinion that being gay is sin, despite being gay yourself and showing no sign of relenting on that belief, despite the obvious mental anguish you go through due to holding these conservative beliefs.

One side thinks lgbt people are a sin or crime against nature, the other thinks the lgbt people is fine. Wonder what the better option for an lgbt person is?

Conservative.


You honestly expect us to believe that the side that openly is waging a culture war against us, and specifically is pursuing policies that actively harm us, is the best side for us to support?

Do you have a deathwish for yourself, and wanna drag us down with you, or what?
Lib-left. Antifascist, antitankie, anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist (including the imperialism of non-western countries). Christian (Unitarian Universalist). Background in physics.
Mostly a girl. She or they pronouns, please. Unrepentant transbian.
Reject tradition, embrace modernity.
People who call themselves based NEVER are.
The truth about kids transitioning.

User avatar
New-Minneapolis
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1635
Founded: Oct 19, 2022
Capitalist Paradise

Postby New-Minneapolis » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:




I was referring to the policy of not mentioning LGBT subjects in public schools

Republicans are already going further and trying to ban any mention of anything related to gender or sexual orientation from all federally funded institutions.


Next you’re going to say that they want me locked up for just thinking about being with a guy. :roll:
31 year-old multiracial Hispanic cisgender gay male with Neurofibromatosis type 1. Neurodivergent. Yes, I do live in Minneapolis.
Gamer. Agnostic Atheist. Civic Nationalist. Hawkish & Centrist.


Do NOT TG me unless you feel it's absolutely necessary.

User avatar
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 25005
Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:25 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Republicans are already going further and trying to ban any mention of anything related to gender or sexual orientation from all federally funded institutions.


Next you’re going to say that they want me locked up for just thinking about being with a guy. :roll:

I mean yeah
That's the whole point of introducing thought crimes.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 159039
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:35 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Republicans are already going further and trying to ban any mention of anything related to gender or sexual orientation from all federally funded institutions.


Next you’re going to say that they want me locked up for just thinking about being with a guy. :roll:

Do you think that I'm making this up?
Ifreann wrote:Republicans introduce a federal Don't Say Gay bill. The bill will deny federal funds to any institution that exposes children under the age of 10 to any material on "any topic involving gender identity, gender dysphoria, transgenderism, sexual orientation, or related subjects". Any library, any school, any hospital with so much as a pamphlet about sex ed would lose their federal funding. The bill also creates a private right of action for parents to sue any such institution if their child has been so exposed.

The bill also mentions things like stripping and nude adults and lewd dancing, so Republicans can give interviews on Fox about how they're just trying to protect innocent children from hardcore sex shows, skipping over how this would cost every LGBT person who works with kids their jobs.

The acceleration from "bathroom bills" to this has been insane. They're this close to trying to recriminalise homosexuality.

User avatar
Floofybit
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5221
Founded: Sep 11, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Floofybit » Sat Oct 22, 2022 10:58 am

New haven america wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Conservative.

Well yes, you're 14, you want to go with the edgiest answer possible.

Tis neither original nor clever.

I'm not 14 lol. Nor am I younger. I only said conservative because that was the best for me and I wouldn't want to say something I'm not
Religious demibisexual male furry who really, really loves fruit
Foxlington News
Fruit addiction terrorises Floofs, no known cure has been found | After various petitions, the woman arrested for having "too many favourite colours" due to be released in 2034, has now been let free. "I'll be more decisive next time," she stated | Stash of tangerine juice found in high-ranking government official's home in Peachton, accused of "not sharing with the rest of us" | Peachton man identifies as a pomelo, watch his story
Safety > Freedom
I love the life of fur
"Gotta be some Disneyland style utopia for either people and dogs or... anthropomorphic animals."

User avatar
Floofybit
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5221
Founded: Sep 11, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Floofybit » Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:00 am

Grenartia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Conservative.


You honestly expect us to believe that the side that openly is waging a culture war against us, and specifically is pursuing policies that actively harm us, is the best side for us to support?

Do you have a deathwish for yourself, and wanna drag us down with you, or what?

It's who I side with, it's who my family sides with, it's who my friends side with, it's who my community sides with

it's who that one cute boy sided with
Religious demibisexual male furry who really, really loves fruit
Foxlington News
Fruit addiction terrorises Floofs, no known cure has been found | After various petitions, the woman arrested for having "too many favourite colours" due to be released in 2034, has now been let free. "I'll be more decisive next time," she stated | Stash of tangerine juice found in high-ranking government official's home in Peachton, accused of "not sharing with the rest of us" | Peachton man identifies as a pomelo, watch his story
Safety > Freedom
I love the life of fur
"Gotta be some Disneyland style utopia for either people and dogs or... anthropomorphic animals."

User avatar
New-Minneapolis
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1635
Founded: Oct 19, 2022
Capitalist Paradise

Postby New-Minneapolis » Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:10 am

Floofybit wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
You honestly expect us to believe that the side that openly is waging a culture war against us, and specifically is pursuing policies that actively harm us, is the best side for us to support?

Do you have a deathwish for yourself, and wanna drag us down with you, or what?

It's who I side with, it's who my family sides with, it's who my friends side with, it's who my community sides with

it's who that one cute boy sided with


Have you considered making RL acquaintances with people that don’t share your worldview? For example, one of my closest friends is a huge Trump supporter
31 year-old multiracial Hispanic cisgender gay male with Neurofibromatosis type 1. Neurodivergent. Yes, I do live in Minneapolis.
Gamer. Agnostic Atheist. Civic Nationalist. Hawkish & Centrist.


Do NOT TG me unless you feel it's absolutely necessary.

User avatar
Floofybit
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5221
Founded: Sep 11, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Floofybit » Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:12 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Floofybit wrote:It's who I side with, it's who my family sides with, it's who my friends side with, it's who my community sides with

it's who that one cute boy sided with


Have you considered making RL acquaintances with people that don’t share your worldview? For example, one of my closest friends is a huge Trump supporter

I have. One of my best friends was left wing. I didn't agree with lots of the stuff though
Religious demibisexual male furry who really, really loves fruit
Foxlington News
Fruit addiction terrorises Floofs, no known cure has been found | After various petitions, the woman arrested for having "too many favourite colours" due to be released in 2034, has now been let free. "I'll be more decisive next time," she stated | Stash of tangerine juice found in high-ranking government official's home in Peachton, accused of "not sharing with the rest of us" | Peachton man identifies as a pomelo, watch his story
Safety > Freedom
I love the life of fur
"Gotta be some Disneyland style utopia for either people and dogs or... anthropomorphic animals."

User avatar
Sordhau
Senator
 
Posts: 4167
Founded: Nov 24, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Sordhau » Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:46 am

Floofybit wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
You honestly expect us to believe that the side that openly is waging a culture war against us, and specifically is pursuing policies that actively harm us, is the best side for us to support?

Do you have a deathwish for yourself, and wanna drag us down with you, or what?

It's who I side with, it's who my family sides with, it's who my friends side with, it's who my community sides with

it's who that one cute boy sided with


So in other words you just want to do what everyone around you is doing and don't really have any opinions of your own.
| ☆ | ☭ | Council Communist | Anti-Imperialist | Post-Racialist | Revolutionary Socialist | ☭ | ☆ |

She/Her
Jennifer/Jenny

User avatar
Floofybit
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5221
Founded: Sep 11, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Floofybit » Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:47 am

Sordhau wrote:
Floofybit wrote:It's who I side with, it's who my family sides with, it's who my friends side with, it's who my community sides with

it's who that one cute boy sided with


So in other words you just want to do what everyone around you is doing and don't really have any opinions of your own.


No, this was my choice and was comforting to know that is was also how others around me thought
Religious demibisexual male furry who really, really loves fruit
Foxlington News
Fruit addiction terrorises Floofs, no known cure has been found | After various petitions, the woman arrested for having "too many favourite colours" due to be released in 2034, has now been let free. "I'll be more decisive next time," she stated | Stash of tangerine juice found in high-ranking government official's home in Peachton, accused of "not sharing with the rest of us" | Peachton man identifies as a pomelo, watch his story
Safety > Freedom
I love the life of fur
"Gotta be some Disneyland style utopia for either people and dogs or... anthropomorphic animals."

User avatar
Sordhau
Senator
 
Posts: 4167
Founded: Nov 24, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Sordhau » Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:50 am

Floofybit wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
So in other words you just want to do what everyone around you is doing and don't really have any opinions of your own.


No, this was my choice and was comforting to know that is was also how others around me thought


Really? Because from what you're saying it seems more like you grew up in an insulated environment--an echochamber, if you will--where alternative thought simply didn't exist.
| ☆ | ☭ | Council Communist | Anti-Imperialist | Post-Racialist | Revolutionary Socialist | ☭ | ☆ |

She/Her
Jennifer/Jenny

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Arklatravar-Istertia, Hirota

Advertisement

Remove ads