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Which of these best describe your identity?

Heterosexual
255
15%
Homosexual
128
8%
Bisexual
170
10%
Pansexual/Polysexual
73
4%
Asexual/Aro
101
6%
Cisgender
222
13%
Transgender
84
5%
He/Him
396
24%
She/Her
124
7%
They/Them or Other
110
7%
 
Total votes : 1663

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Postby New-Minneapolis » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:49 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
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Praying fine times a day toward the Kaaba may not make sense for you, but it does to Muslims. People have different value sets. For example, my mother is a police abolitionist and I’m right wing on law and order issues, with the notable exception of my support of full and complete legalization of cannabis and mushrooms

Muslims can explain why they do that, though. It's part of their religion, it makes a decent amount of sense in that regard, and while it may be somewhat inconvenient at times it's not something counterintuitive to their very existence.


Because I happen to have conservative viewpoints on a certain number of issues. In terms of American politics, I’m a conservative Democrat, and if I lived in the UK, I would be a one-nation conservative.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:55 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I conservative with things such as law and order that police are good, marijuana and shrooms should be illegal,

Which do not make sense.
and religion and patriotism is good for society

They're personal choices, and not inherent goods for everyone.

How do they not make sense? They make perfect sense to me. Law and order and banning harmful drugs are good for keeping people safe
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:59 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Which do not make sense.

They're personal choices, and not inherent goods for everyone.

How do they not make sense? They make perfect sense to me. Law and order and banning harmful drugs are good for keeping people safe


One would have to explain how the war on drugs is or was working. Because I believe these keeping cannabis and mushroom illegal is more harmful to society than keeping them illegal….


And I think this needs to be brought to the u.s politics thread, because this is drug policy, not lgbt issues
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:01 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Floofybit wrote:How do they not make sense? They make perfect sense to me. Law and order and banning harmful drugs are good for keeping people safe


One would have to explain how the war on drugs is or was working. Because I believe these keeping cannabis and mushroom illegal is more harmful to society than keeping them illegal….


And I think this needs to be brought to the u.s politics thread, because this is drug policy, not lgbt issues

Or the police thread, where we've had this discussion with Floofybit before. But yeah.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:01 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Floofybit wrote:How do they not make sense? They make perfect sense to me. Law and order and banning harmful drugs are good for keeping people safe


One would have to explain how the war on drugs is or was working. Because I believe these keeping cannabis and mushroom illegal is more harmful to society than keeping them illegal….


And I think this needs to be brought to the u.s politics thread, because this is drug policy, not lgbt issues

Yes, we need to get back on topoc
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:12 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
One would have to explain how the war on drugs is or was working. Because I believe these keeping cannabis and mushroom illegal is more harmful to society than keeping them illegal….


And I think this needs to be brought to the u.s politics thread, because this is drug policy, not lgbt issues

Or the police thread, where we've had this discussion with Floofybit before. But yeah.


Back to the topic at hand. Not every minority has a leftist viewpoint because minorities are not a monolith
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Postby Drongonia » Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:56 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Or the police thread, where we've had this discussion with Floofybit before. But yeah.


Back to the topic at hand. Not every minority has a leftist viewpoint because minorities are not a monolith

This concept baffles the leftist. They seethe at the thought of not being able to control those within groups they're supposed to dominate.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:00 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Or the police thread, where we've had this discussion with Floofybit before. But yeah.


Back to the topic at hand. Not every minority has a leftist viewpoint because minorities are not a monolith


It also depends a bit on what you call "leftist". The whole "the right wing advocates the lgtbqetc are subhuman" is not universal.

Ofc, in places where the right does advocate this it would be a bit weird to not have that part be a dealbreaker.
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:23 pm

Did any other gay person grew up playing and loved playing The Sims?
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Postby Lounarei » Fri Oct 21, 2022 11:44 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:Did any other gay person grew up playing and loved playing The Sims?

No Sims. Played the hell out of Spore though, if that counts?

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Postby Transsibiria » Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:03 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:Did any other gay person grew up playing and loved playing The Sims?


I always preferred Sim City.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Oct 22, 2022 12:12 am

Prima Scriptura wrote:
New haven america wrote:1. People shouldn't have opinions that lead to the death and discrimination of the rest of their group.
2. Maybe they could stop acting like it sometime?



Maybe the left should just accept there are minorities that disagree with them and have conservative viewpoints, I have different viewpoints. I probably disagree with these individuals and a lot of different issues, mainly about Donald Trump and right wing populism in general,

Or your opinion that being gay is sin, despite being gay yourself and showing no sign of relenting on that belief, despite the obvious mental anguish you go through due to holding these conservative beliefs.

One side thinks lgbt people are a sin or crime against nature, the other thinks the lgbt people is fine. Wonder what the better option for an lgbt person is?
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:34 am

New haven america wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:

Maybe the left should just accept there are minorities that disagree with them and have conservative viewpoints, I have different viewpoints. I probably disagree with these individuals and a lot of different issues, mainly about Donald Trump and right wing populism in general,

Or your opinion that being gay is sin, despite being gay yourself and showing no sign of relenting on that belief, despite the obvious mental anguish you go through due to holding these conservative beliefs.

One side thinks lgbt people are a sin or crime against nature, the other thinks the lgbt people is fine. Wonder what the better option for an lgbt person is?



Well; I don’t think being gay is a sin(anymore). But not every right-winger wants to bring back sodomy laws.
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Postby Palmyrion » Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:33 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
New haven america wrote:Or your opinion that being gay is sin, despite being gay yourself and showing no sign of relenting on that belief, despite the obvious mental anguish you go through due to holding these conservative beliefs.

One side thinks lgbt people are a sin or crime against nature, the other thinks the lgbt people is fine. Wonder what the better option for an lgbt person is?



Well; I don’t think being gay is a sin(anymore). But not every right-winger wants to bring back sodomy laws.

Not All Right-Wingers, but too many right-wingers.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:49 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
New haven america wrote:Or your opinion that being gay is sin, despite being gay yourself and showing no sign of relenting on that belief, despite the obvious mental anguish you go through due to holding these conservative beliefs.

One side thinks lgbt people are a sin or crime against nature, the other thinks the lgbt people is fine. Wonder what the better option for an lgbt person is?



Well; I don’t think being gay is a sin(anymore). But not every right-winger wants to bring back sodomy laws.


No, but their parties often do. Which means it is not a dealbreaker for the people who support said parties.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:11 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Probably on things like conversion therapy as well.


I think voluntary conversion “therapy” should be legal for consenting adults, even though I know personally it’s pointless at best and harmful at worst. But so is eating McDonald’s three times a day.

It's impossible to offer conversion therapy without being fraudulent. It would be like McDonalds claiming that their special sauce could give you super powers. It's not only not true in their specific case, it's not humanly possible in general.

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Postby Sordhau » Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:14 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:Did any other gay person grew up playing and loved playing The Sims?


Loved the Sims long before I knew I was trans. Still love the Sims.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:34 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
New haven america wrote:Or your opinion that being gay is sin, despite being gay yourself and showing no sign of relenting on that belief, despite the obvious mental anguish you go through due to holding these conservative beliefs.

One side thinks lgbt people are a sin or crime against nature, the other thinks the lgbt people is fine. Wonder what the better option for an lgbt person is?



Well; I don’t think being gay is a sin(anymore). But not every right-winger wants to bring back sodomy laws.

Justices Alito and Thomas want to get rid of gay marriage and reinstate sodomy laws.
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:40 am

Sordhau wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:Did any other gay person grew up playing and loved playing The Sims?


Loved the Sims long before I knew I was trans. Still love the Sims.


I’ve noticed that a lot of LGBT grew up playing the sims
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Postby Floofybit » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:29 am

New haven america wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:

Maybe the left should just accept there are minorities that disagree with them and have conservative viewpoints, I have different viewpoints. I probably disagree with these individuals and a lot of different issues, mainly about Donald Trump and right wing populism in general,

Or your opinion that being gay is sin, despite being gay yourself and showing no sign of relenting on that belief, despite the obvious mental anguish you go through due to holding these conservative beliefs.

One side thinks lgbt people are a sin or crime against nature, the other thinks the lgbt people is fine. Wonder what the better option for an lgbt person is?

Conservative.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:30 am

Floofybit wrote:
New haven america wrote:Or your opinion that being gay is sin, despite being gay yourself and showing no sign of relenting on that belief, despite the obvious mental anguish you go through due to holding these conservative beliefs.

One side thinks lgbt people are a sin or crime against nature, the other thinks the lgbt people is fine. Wonder what the better option for an lgbt person is?

Conservative.

Can we have words from somebody who's not into torturing people?

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Postby Floofybit » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:31 am

Drongonia wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
Back to the topic at hand. Not every minority has a leftist viewpoint because minorities are not a monolith

This concept baffles the leftist. They seethe at the thought of not being able to control those within groups they're supposed to dominate.

Exactly. Kinda strange
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Postby Floofybit » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:31 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Conservative.

Can we have words from somebody who's not into torturing people?

When... When have I ever? When have I ever advocated torture
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:32 am

Floofybit wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Can we have words from somebody who's not into torturing people?

When... When have I ever? When have I ever advocated torture

throwing ppl in american prison for "sodomy" like most of you lot want is torture

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Postby Floofybit » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:35 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Floofybit wrote:When... When have I ever? When have I ever advocated torture

throwing ppl in american prison for "sodomy" like most of you lot want is torture

I'm not on the side of the violent extremist right wingers just like you aren't on the side of the violent extremist left wingers

Why would I want to put gay people in jail if I am...
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