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Which of these best describe your identity?

Heterosexual
255
15%
Homosexual
128
8%
Bisexual
170
10%
Pansexual/Polysexual
73
4%
Asexual/Aro
101
6%
Cisgender
222
13%
Transgender
84
5%
He/Him
396
24%
She/Her
124
7%
They/Them or Other
110
7%
 
Total votes : 1663

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:05 pm

Rivinist wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:smh sophist handwaving

Thank you very much, User. Hence, an exemplary comment that demonstrates my point. Only does who do not want to see it will not see it but does who do will be enlightened.

You know we have you shilling for rabidly homphobic Russian führers on record right?

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Rivinist
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Postby Rivinist » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:10 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Rivinist wrote:Thank you very much, User. Hence, an exemplary comment that demonstrates my point. Only does who do not want to see it will not see it but does who do will be enlightened.

You know we have you shilling for rabidly homphobic Russian führers on record right?

You know you are only validating my point even further right? By evidently expressing an unreasonable and bigoted demeanor online.

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The United Front Empire
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Postby The United Front Empire » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:14 pm

There's an LGBT support thread like every month.

This feels like one of those ban baits often done on other sites where someone just wants to derail a forum or community and get people banned.
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Floofybit
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:16 pm

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:
If you ever find yourself on NSG and taking people seriously then you have gone in the wrong direction and you should turn around as soon as possible.

As for you, I am not aware of what NSG you are referring to as there are a lot of institutions with these acronyms. So you will have to define the formal title.

We are in Nation States General. NSG is Nation States General. Duh
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Postby Rivinist » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:16 pm

Which in fact you sir (memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=200796) exhibit the exact definition of Bigot- "obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group." Merriam Webster Dic.
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Necroghastia
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:18 pm

Rivinist wrote:Which in fact you sir exhibit the exact definition of Bigot- "obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group." Merriam Webster Dic.

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Floofybit
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:18 pm

Is this whole thread gonna be calling each other bigots?
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:20 pm

The United Front Empire wrote:There's an LGBT support thread like every month.

No, there’s just been the one for the last couple years
This feels like one of those ban baits often done on other sites where someone just wants to derail a forum or community and get people banned.

Maybe people shouldn’t be so eager to say bannable things about LGBT people then lol idk
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West Bromwich Holme
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Postby West Bromwich Holme » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:20 pm

Getting back on topic... how many of you actually had major internal struggles when you discovered you were LGBT, not necessarily mental health issues, but things like no idea how to meet a partner or navigate the LGBT scene etc.?

FWIW, I'm gynesexual, which is probably not a type of LGBT gender identity discussed on here.
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Rivinist
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Postby Rivinist » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:21 pm

Probably the only difference is I am actually getting the definition from the dictionary and scrutinizing the behavior of these members with it. That is reasonable

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Postby Prima Scriptura » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:21 pm

Palmyrion wrote:
Aghwank wrote:

as a rightist asexual i know this isnt what most conservatives are going for. saying the goal of conservatives is genocide is some flat earth conspiracy level shit.

A right winger LGBT person makes as much sense to me as a Nazi Jew, pro-Columbus Native American, or a pro-Trump Muslim.



A lot of LGBT people are conservatives, and that’s okay.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:22 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:A right winger LGBT person makes as much sense to me as a Nazi Jew, pro-Columbus Native American, or a pro-Trump Muslim.



A lot of LGBT people are conservatives, and that’s okay.

This
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:23 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:A right winger LGBT person makes as much sense to me as a Nazi Jew, pro-Columbus Native American, or a pro-Trump Muslim.



A lot of LGBT people are conservatives, and that’s okay.

Why, though?
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:24 pm

Rivinist wrote:Which in fact you sir (memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=200796) exhibit the exact definition of Bigot- "obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group." Merriam Webster Dic.

Look, it was just a question, you don't need to get so defensive. Either answer the question or ignore it. No need to make an off topic scene :blush:
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:25 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:

A lot of LGBT people are conservatives, and that’s okay.

Why, though?

Why is it a problem? Being conservative doesn't mean you support every single pin point piece of legislation that they have done. I support more conservative values than other parties, but not all, so that is why I am conservative
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The United Front Empire
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Postby The United Front Empire » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:26 pm

Senkaku wrote:Maybe people shouldn’t be so eager to say bannable things about LGBT people then lol idk


If any criticism of the LGBT as a group or the actions of certain individuals is bannable, that is unreasonable. And that is what 90% of websites will ban you for.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:27 pm

West Bromwich Holme wrote:Getting back on topic... how many of you actually had major internal struggles when you discovered you were LGBT, not necessarily mental health issues, but things like no idea how to meet a partner or navigate the LGBT scene etc.?


I did, and still somewhat do. I really can’t date or find a partner due to my current life situation and due to mental health issues. I also avoid the “LGBT scene” because nothing makes me feel worse for being gay than the LGBT community and the culture that surrounds it. Religious conservatives ain’t got shit compared to the LGBT community when it comes to making me feel like shit for being gay
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:28 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Why, though?

Why is it a problem? Being conservative doesn't mean you support every single pin point piece of legislation that they have done. I support more conservative values than other parties, but not all, so that is why I am conservative

Sure, but if you vote for someone that for instance thinks any mention of gender is tantamount to sexually abusing children, because you agree on their other policies, I don't give a rat's ass if you personally don't mind queer people.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:29 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:

A lot of LGBT people are conservatives, and that’s okay.

Why, though?


Because they happen to agree with a lot of the principles of conservatism.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:30 pm

The United Front Empire wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Maybe people shouldn’t be so eager to say bannable things about LGBT people then lol idk


If any criticism of the LGBT as a group or the actions of certain individuals is bannable, that is unreasonable. And that is what 90% of websites will ban you for.

I mean, that's just an outright falsehood.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:31 pm

Prima Scriptura wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Why, though?


Because they happen to agree with a lot of the principles of conservatism.

And such principles include...?
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Postby Lounarei » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:46 pm

West Bromwich Holme wrote:Getting back on topic... how many of you actually had major internal struggles when you discovered you were LGBT, not necessarily mental health issues, but things like no idea how to meet a partner or navigate the LGBT scene etc.?

FWIW, I'm gynesexual, which is probably not a type of LGBT gender identity discussed on here.

Ayy! One I actually know. TBH, I'm just Omni, leaning towards femmé folk, regardless of sex, so I entirely understand it. As for internal struggle? Coming to terms I'm not cis, and all that. I was doing the classic hard cope of "oh, it's just a phase", and all that.

Turns out it's not.

I desire to be an entire ass cryptid now.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:59 pm

West Bromwich Holme wrote:Getting back on topic... how many of you actually had major internal struggles when you discovered you were LGBT, not necessarily mental health issues, but things like no idea how to meet a partner or navigate the LGBT scene etc.?

FWIW, I'm gynesexual, which is probably not a type of LGBT gender identity discussed on here.


Yeah it was certainly challenging as a socially incompetent idiot blundering into that kind of space and not necessarily having the self-respect or confidence to navigate it properly and make my own decisions rather than drifting along with stuff I didn't like because I just wanted someone to like me. I didn't rub along very well with the ascetics, vibes, the politics. I'm not talking solely "Big P" Politics here, but also the more gatekeepery interpretation of "the personal as political" where people were quite judgemental about whether you were doing your identity "right". In retrospect it was a very bad fit to be spending so much time around people I mostly had very little in common with. I was coming to the transgender thing through the view of how nice it'd be to fit in and feel comfortable rather than anything about wanting to rebel against social codes and be very "in-your-face" about stuff.

For a while I stressed myself the hell out trying altogether too hard to fit in to it while simultaneously self-raging about how entirely contrary to the point that was and what the hell was I doing. I was nervous about interacting outside of the community at the time so I felt like I didn't really have an alternative. I've never dated outside of "the community" for similar reasons - I've been in a long-term mono relationship for many years now but had a few relationships beforehand that in retrospect weren't massively healthy and involved a lot of mentally not-very-stable and actually quite jealous people in poly relationships and everyone getting pulled into massive drama and mental health explosions every time two people fell out. In the event that my current relationship broke-up I would probably stay single rather than engaging in the dating game as the mainstream has a lot of either hostile or creepy people and from afar the community seems to have got worse in the decade since I was last involved in it.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:59 pm

West Bromwich Holme wrote:Getting back on topic... how many of you actually had major internal struggles when you discovered you were LGBT, not necessarily mental health issues, but things like no idea how to meet a partner or navigate the LGBT scene etc.?

FWIW, I'm gynesexual, which is probably not a type of LGBT gender identity discussed on here.

I only had the internal struggle of how to stop acting and thinking like a

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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:09 pm

Floofybit wrote:
West Bromwich Holme wrote:Getting back on topic... how many of you actually had major internal struggles when you discovered you were LGBT, not necessarily mental health issues, but things like no idea how to meet a partner or navigate the LGBT scene etc.?

FWIW, I'm gynesexual, which is probably not a type of LGBT gender identity discussed on here.

I only had the internal struggle of how to stop acting and thinking like a

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speaking as a gay furry that is literally the best thing a person can be
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