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Which of these best describe your identity?

Heterosexual
255
15%
Homosexual
128
8%
Bisexual
170
10%
Pansexual/Polysexual
73
4%
Asexual/Aro
101
6%
Cisgender
222
13%
Transgender
84
5%
He/Him
396
24%
She/Her
124
7%
They/Them or Other
110
7%
 
Total votes : 1663

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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:00 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:No, you literally do not get a say in how other people conduct their romantic and sexual lives. So, if you leave people tf alone, and don't want to take away their rights or keep them from living their lives or forcing them to hide in the shadows, congratulations, I don't care about what you think. So long as it doesn't affect our lives, carry on or whatever.

First of all, why do you get a say but not me? Second of all, I'm not forcing anyone to do anything?! Third of all, what the heck?

Because it's — get this — not your life. I get a say in my life. You don't.
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Postby Floofybit » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:01 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Floofybit wrote:First of all, why do you get a say but not me? Second of all, I'm not forcing anyone to do anything?! Third of all, what the heck?

Because it's — get this — not your life. I get a say in my life. You don't.

How is this relevant to the conversation?
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:03 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Because it's — get this — not your life. I get a say in my life. You don't.

How is this relevant to the conversation?

Did you read anything I actually wrote, or did you just press reply and type whatever words pop up the fastest?
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Postby Floofybit » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:06 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Floofybit wrote:How is this relevant to the conversation?

Did you read anything I actually wrote, or did you just press reply and type whatever words pop up the fastest?

If we can't dictate each others lives, you can't dictate what I say

You also can't dictate who I am. I'm not a bigot. Get that straight
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:11 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Did you read anything I actually wrote, or did you just press reply and type whatever words pop up the fastest?

If we can't dictate each others lives, you can't dictate what I say

You also can't dictate who I am. I'm not a bigot. Get that straight

Bigots love to say they aren't bigots. Bigotry is dictated by actions, not identity. If I say "I'm not a math teacher," but continue to go to work and teach math, I am, in fact, a math teacher. If you do something bigoted on purpose, you are a bigot.

You may have the freedom to say almost anything you want to say, but you are not free from the consequences of what you say. If you say something bigoted, be prepared to be called bigoted. This is not news.
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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Postby Floofybit » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:20 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Floofybit wrote:If we can't dictate each others lives, you can't dictate what I say

You also can't dictate who I am. I'm not a bigot. Get that straight

Bigots love to say they aren't bigots. Bigotry is dictated by actions, not identity. If I say "I'm not a math teacher," but continue to go to work and teach math, I am, in fact, a math teacher. If you do something bigoted on purpose, you are a bigot.

You may have the freedom to say almost anything you want to say, but you are not free from the consequences of what you say. If you say something bigoted, be prepared to be called bigoted. This is not news.

He said he's not a bigot? That's something a bigot would say! That's kinda how it feels you're acting. Tell me, how am I a bigot
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:23 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Bigots love to say they aren't bigots. Bigotry is dictated by actions, not identity. If I say "I'm not a math teacher," but continue to go to work and teach math, I am, in fact, a math teacher. If you do something bigoted on purpose, you are a bigot.

You may have the freedom to say almost anything you want to say, but you are not free from the consequences of what you say. If you say something bigoted, be prepared to be called bigoted. This is not news.

He said he's not a bigot? That's something a bigot would say! That's kinda how it feels you're acting. Tell me, how am I a bigot

Do you walk up to gay people who aren't asking you, and tell them your beliefs about how they're wrong for being gay?
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My sworn enemy is the Toyota 4Runner
I scream a lot.
Also, I'm gonna fuck your girlfriend.
Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it

Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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Postby Floofybit » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:45 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Floofybit wrote:He said he's not a bigot? That's something a bigot would say! That's kinda how it feels you're acting. Tell me, how am I a bigot

Do you walk up to gay people who aren't asking you, and tell them your beliefs about how they're wrong for being gay?

Um... No
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:46 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Do you walk up to gay people who aren't asking you, and tell them your beliefs about how they're wrong for being gay?

Um... No

then why did you get defensive when i said that doing that was bigotry
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My sworn enemy is the Toyota 4Runner
I scream a lot.
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Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it

Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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Postby Floofybit » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:47 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Um... No

then why did you get defensive when i said that doing that was bigotry

Cause I thought you were saying I was doing that. I meant no harm
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:49 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:then why did you get defensive when i said that doing that was bigotry

Cause I thought you were saying I was doing that. I meant no harm

I was not, I was asking if you did.
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I scream a lot.
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Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it

Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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Postby Floofybit » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:50 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Cause I thought you were saying I was doing that. I meant no harm

I was not, I was asking if you did.

And I do not
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:57 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:I was not, I was asking if you did.

And I do not

Then carry on. If you're leaving people alone, then idc how you live your own life or what you think about us.
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.

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Postby Palmyrion » Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:50 am

Aghwank wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:I am not going to mince words.

The ultimate goal of conservatives with regards to LGBT people is genocide. This is why they are making steps to push gay people back into the closet, into a place where LGBT people can be easily corralled for extermination.

It would be children's books that depict LGBT people, LGBT couples, ones that aren't even sexually explicit. Different-sex couple good, same-sex couple bad, says conservatives regarding children's books. It would be banning transgender healthcare across the board, making it astronomically impossible for transgender people to get the healthcare they need regarding gender transition. It would be banning transgender people from participating in sports, even mixed gender sports. Eventually it will extend to every single LGBT athlete being banned from sports across the board.

Eventually conservatives will take away LGBT people's livelihoods and property, making it impossible for them to sustainably live. Once this is done, they will ban homosexuality, transgenderism, and gender non-conformity.

Make no mistake, it is happening in front of your eyes.



as a rightist asexual i know this isnt what most conservatives are going for. saying the goal of conservatives is genocide is some flat earth conspiracy level shit.

A right winger LGBT person makes as much sense to me as a Nazi Jew, pro-Columbus Native American, or a pro-Trump Muslim.
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Postby Nitrana » Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:00 am

Palmyrion wrote:
Aghwank wrote:

as a rightist asexual i know this isnt what most conservatives are going for. saying the goal of conservatives is genocide is some flat earth conspiracy level shit.

A right winger LGBT person makes as much sense to me as a Nazi Jew, pro-Columbus Native American, or a pro-Trump Muslim.

I’m LibRight and I’m pro LGBT+ :/
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Postby Palmyrion » Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:08 am

Nitrana wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:A right winger LGBT person makes as much sense to me as a Nazi Jew, pro-Columbus Native American, or a pro-Trump Muslim.

I’m LibRight and I’m pro LGBT+ :/

You're more milquetoast libertarian than stereotypical Republican in that case.
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Postby Nitrana » Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:11 am

Palmyrion wrote:
Nitrana wrote:I’m LibRight and I’m pro LGBT+ :/

You're more milquetoast libertarian than stereotypical Republican in that case.

Thank you..?
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:18 am

Palmyrion wrote:
Aghwank wrote:

as a rightist asexual i know this isnt what most conservatives are going for. saying the goal of conservatives is genocide is some flat earth conspiracy level shit.

A right winger LGBT person makes as much sense to me as a Nazi Jew, pro-Columbus Native American, or a pro-Trump Muslim.

You think a right winger LGBT person doesn't make sense? Well, you need to learn to be happy with one right here
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Postby Palmyrion » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:23 am

Floofybit wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:A right winger LGBT person makes as much sense to me as a Nazi Jew, pro-Columbus Native American, or a pro-Trump Muslim.

You think a right winger LGBT person doesn't make sense? Well, you need to learn to be happy with one right here

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:28 am

Honestly plenty of our LGBT users aren't the stereotype of pride-flag waving, super progressive libertarian leftists. This is a site full of political nerds, and that means you tend to get a fair share of people who go against the grain in some manner of their politics from what you'd expect of a member of "their community" (particularly if they don't actually have much to do with said community).
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:30 am

Palmyrion wrote:
Floofybit wrote:You think a right winger LGBT person doesn't make sense? Well, you need to learn to be happy with one right here

"Well, you need to be happy with an Imposter, crewmate."

I'm not an imposter :p Not all LGBTQ people are leftists
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:37 am

Floofybit wrote:
Palmyrion wrote:A right winger LGBT person makes as much sense to me as a Nazi Jew, pro-Columbus Native American, or a pro-Trump Muslim.

You think a right winger LGBT person doesn't make sense? Well, you need to learn to be happy with one right here


I know some LGBT right wingers and none of them what to change who they are or marry a woman so they can a family they produced as you put it.

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Postby Floofybit » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:40 am

San Lumen wrote:
Floofybit wrote:You think a right winger LGBT person doesn't make sense? Well, you need to learn to be happy with one right here


I know some LGBT right wingers and none of them what to change who they are or marry a woman so they can a family they produced as you put it.

I know. I know that very well
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:41 am

Floofybit wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I know some LGBT right wingers and none of them what to change who they are or marry a woman so they can a family they produced as you put it.

I know. I know that very well


know what? You want something that is impossible and want to be miserable so you can create a family. You do what you want but marrying someone you don't love won't bring you or the other person happiness.

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Postby Excidium Planetis » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:54 am

San Lumen wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I know. I know that very well


know what? You want something that is impossible and want to be miserable so you can create a family. You do what you want but marrying someone you don't love won't bring you or the other person happiness.


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