Free Speech:「Yes or No」

[Magical Medical League]

The best thing we as Americans can do is firmly reject....

Aren't you from Iceland?

[Kexholm Karelia]

The best thing we as Americans can do is firmly reject....

Aren't you from Iceland?

No, I’m a American of Chinese descent, but my descent doesn’t make me any less American than anyone else

[Sanghyeok]

Aren't you from Iceland?

No, I’m a American of Chinese descent, but my descent doesn’t make me any less American than anyone else

Certainly I can agree with that.

(This is the same user as Magical Medical League).

[Sanghyeok]

To break down your argument to the level of ignorance and it, this is a privately owned and operated website, the moderators and admins can set whatever rules they want and you have to follow them.

You got deemed for breaking the rules. If you don't like the fact that those rules are there, then you have the choice to leave the site. Or, you can choose to follow the rules like everybody else.

I think more people support private restrictions on free speech than they admit.

[Shazbotdom]

To break down your argument to the level of ignorance and it, this is a privately owned and operated website, the moderators and admins can set whatever rules they want and you have to follow them.

You got deemed for breaking the rules. If you don't like the fact that those rules are there, then you have the choice to leave the site. Or, you can choose to follow the rules like everybody else.

I think more people support private restrictions on free speech than they admit.

Except that Free Speech does not mean free of consequences. If someone says something that their employer doesn't like, they can be fired. If they say something their friends don't like, they can be unfriended. If they say something that a social networking website doesn't like, they can have their account deleted.

Just because someone has the right to say something doesn't mean that they won't get hit with consequences. Even if there was an anarchist society if someone says something that a group of people doesn't like then they will be stoned, hung, etc by a mob.

[Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio]

Freedom of speech should only be limited when advocating for violence or when a well-informed individual intentionally lies with malicious intent.

[Elwher]

Freedom of speech should only be limited when advocating for violence or when a well-informed individual intentionally lies with malicious intent.

Point one - FDR's day of infamy speech advocated for extreme violence against the Japanese.

Point two - How does one prove the intent of a liar?

[Magical Medical League]

Freedom of speech should only be limited when advocating for violence or when a well-informed individual intentionally lies with malicious intent.

I would add hate speech to that.

[Albrenia]

Freedom of speech should only be limited when advocating for violence or when a well-informed individual intentionally lies with malicious intent.

Point one - FDR's day of infamy speech advocated for extreme violence against the Japanese.

Point two - How does one prove the intent of a liar?

Did the day of infamy speech advocate harming US citizens of Japanese descent, or just for fighting against Japan as a nation?

[Sanghyeok]

Did the day of infamy speech advocate harming US citizens of Japanese descent, or just for fighting against Japan as a nation?

Obviously the latter, even if FDR was more than happy to send Japanese to internment camps, the speech itself was against the Empire of Japan.

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

freedom of speech is good, but things like death threats and hate speech shouldn't be allowed, and misinformation should be marked as such.

[Nejii]

freedom of speech is good, but things like death threats and hate speech shouldn't be allowed, and misinformation should be marked as such.

If only, right?

[Sanghyeok]

freedom of speech is good, but things like death threats and hate speech shouldn't be allowed, and misinformation should be marked as such.

If only, right?

If only.

[Elwher]

Did the day of infamy speech advocate harming US citizens of Japanese descent, or just for fighting against Japan as a nation?

Obviously the latter, even if FDR was more than happy to send Japanese to internment camps, the speech itself was against the Empire of Japan.

But it did advocate for violence; the poster did not say only advocating violence against US citizens should be prohibited.

[Freiheit Reich]

freedom of speech is good, but things like death threats and hate speech shouldn't be allowed, and misinformation should be marked as such.

What is hate speech? What if someone says 'I hate Trump' or 'I hate Biden' and someone is offended? This would technically be hate speech because the word 'hate' is used. If hate speech is banned, then we have to even ban speech which criticizes because that would also be offensive to someone.

[Nuroblav]

freedom of speech is good, but things like death threats and hate speech shouldn't be allowed, and misinformation should be marked as such.

What is hate speech? What if someone says 'I hate Trump' or 'I hate Biden' and someone is offended? This would technically be hate speech because the word 'hate' is used. If hate speech is banned, then we have to even ban speech which criticizes because that would also be offensive to someone.

True. The problem with this sort of thing is they can be easily exploited into 'anything I don't like', and while it doesn't necessarily happen all the time, the opportunity still lies.

That being said, I understand the intent of some of those that want to - what I'd say is that there are better ways of tackling the problem than simply making more laws.

[Sanghyeok]

True. The problem with this sort of thing is they can be easily exploited into 'anything I don't like', and while it doesn't necessarily happen all the time, the opportunity still lies.

That being said, I understand the intent of some of those that want to - what I'd say is that there are better ways of tackling the problem than simply making more laws.

I would agree, but I think there are no alternatives for the present.

[Kowani]

freedom of speech is good, but things like death threats and hate speech shouldn't be allowed, and misinformation should be marked as such.

What is hate speech? What if someone says 'I hate Trump' or 'I hate Biden' and someone is offended? This would technically be hate speech because the word 'hate' is used. If hate speech is banned, then we have to even ban speech which criticizes because that would also be offensive to someone.

Things you should do before making arguments: learn the definitions of things you’re arguing against.

[Sanghyeok]

Things you should do before making arguments: learn the definitions of things you’re arguing against.

You should be aware if people use terms such as "Cultural Marxism" and "Cancel Culture."

[Elwher]

What is hate speech? What if someone says 'I hate Trump' or 'I hate Biden' and someone is offended? This would technically be hate speech because the word 'hate' is used. If hate speech is banned, then we have to even ban speech which criticizes because that would also be offensive to someone.

Things you should do before making arguments: learn the definitions of things you’re arguing against.

Hate speech is a communication that carries no meaning other than the expression of hatred for some group, especially in circumstances in which the communication is likely to provoke violence. (USLegal.com)

So, if I say all Trump supporters are morons who do not deserve to live, that is hate speech. Should my saying that get me arrested?

[The Restored Danelaw]

What is hate speech? What if someone says 'I hate Trump' or 'I hate Biden' and someone is offended? This would technically be hate speech because the word 'hate' is used. If hate speech is banned, then we have to even ban speech which criticizes because that would also be offensive to someone.

Things you should do before making arguments: learn the definitions of things you’re arguing against.

Silly Kowani, if they learn the definition of the words they use, how can they fearmonger against basic common decency?

[Kowani]

Things you should do before making arguments: learn the definitions of things you’re arguing against.

Hate speech is a communication that carries no meaning other than the expression of hatred for some group, especially in circumstances in which the communication is likely to provoke violence. (USLegal.com)

So, if I say all Trump supporters are morons who do not deserve to live, that is hate speech. Should my saying that get me arrested?

I feel like there's a point here and I'm not seeing it. What does your construction have to do with what FR said?
And more importantly, where did I suggest jailing people?

Things you should do before making arguments: learn the definitions of things you’re arguing against.

Silly Kowani, if they learn the definition of the words they use, how can they fearmonger against basic common decency?

Buying up the dictionary publishers.

[Elwher]

Hate speech is a communication that carries no meaning other than the expression of hatred for some group, especially in circumstances in which the communication is likely to provoke violence. (USLegal.com)

So, if I say all Trump supporters are morons who do not deserve to live, that is hate speech. Should my saying that get me arrested?

I feel like there's a point here and I'm not seeing it. What does your construction have to do with what FR said?
And more importantly, where did I suggest jailing people?

My point is that the term hate speech is overly broad, and if hate speech is to be banned then there would have to be some penalty for its usage, be that jail or fine.

[Kowani]

I feel like there's a point here and I'm not seeing it. What does your construction have to do with what FR said?
And more importantly, where did I suggest jailing people?

My point is that the term hate speech is overly broad, and if hate speech is to be banned then there would have to be some penalty for its usage, be that jail or fine.

Yes and

[Elwher]

My point is that the term hate speech is overly broad, and if hate speech is to be banned then there would have to be some penalty for its usage, be that jail or fine.

Yes and

I simply said arrested, you were the first person to mention jail. An arrest can lead to fines or jail.