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Should the state of Washington be renamed?

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New Caprona
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Postby New Caprona » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:50 pm

New Jeferopholletopia wrote:The state of Washington was named after George Washington. I have heard some argue that because George Washington was a slave owner, racist, and a homophobe that he shouldn't be glorified and that the state of Washington should be renamed. This is especially true since Washington is a heavily liberal state.

I am undecided on this, but I can definitely understand the arguments for not glorifying George Washington anymore. What do you think?




Yeah, absolutely. Next, we should completely re-write the English language. Destroy all evidence of previous history and just start a new. Everything and everyone was a complete racist. America (and I guess even North America) should also be renamed cuz that's racist too. Then hopefully once we do that only then can we truly reach a society of equality and peace

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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:54 pm

New Jeferopholletopia wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:That is their opinion. Great Britain was acting like a tyrant so we rebelled. When the French got involved, they eventually said fuck it and went home.


At my high school US history class, they said that it was just a tantrum over taxes.

:rofl: Hahahaha Taxation Without Representation my friend. King George III was a petty tyrant that treated the 13 colonies horribly by taxing the heck out of them so I say the American Revolution was justified.
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Postby Ghost Land » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:55 pm

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought the reasoning would be that it is too similar to and easily confused with Washington, DC. OP's actual argument is ridiculous; let's just rewrite history for the heck of it! :roll:
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:56 pm

New Caprona wrote:
New Jeferopholletopia wrote:The state of Washington was named after George Washington. I have heard some argue that because George Washington was a slave owner, racist, and a homophobe that he shouldn't be glorified and that the state of Washington should be renamed. This is especially true since Washington is a heavily liberal state.

I am undecided on this, but I can definitely understand the arguments for not glorifying George Washington anymore. What do you think?




Yeah, absolutely. Next, we should completely re-write the English language. Destroy all evidence of previous history and just start a new. Everything and everyone was a complete racist. America (and I guess even North America) should also be renamed cuz that's racist too. Then hopefully once we do that only then can we truly reach a society of equality and peace

Does that include you?
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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:56 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
New Jeferopholletopia wrote:
At my high school US history class, they said that it was just a tantrum over taxes.

:rofl: Hahahaha Taxation Without Representation my friend. King George III was a petty tyrant that treated the 13 colonies horribly by taxing the heck out of them so I say the American Revolution was justified.

XD so true! I mean, you shouldn't tax people if they have no say in how they are taxed!
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:56 pm

Why not rename Washington DC, Jefferson City, Lincoln (Nebraska) and Jackson (Mississippi) too? we should not be applying modern standards to people who lived centuries ago.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:57 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
New Jeferopholletopia wrote:
At my high school US history class, they said that it was just a tantrum over taxes.

:rofl: Hahahaha Taxation Without Representation my friend. King George III was a petty tyrant that treated the 13 colonies horribly by taxing the heck out of them so I say the American Revolution was justified.

You're first on the chopping block when Her Majesty the Queen reclaims these rebellious colonies.

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Postby Exxosia » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:58 pm

I lived for several years in Washington state and I think we should rename it — and D.C for that matter — so as to remove the negative context from Washington's name. He deserves better than for such wretched and unforgivably awful places to bear his name.

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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:58 pm

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American Pere Housh wrote: :rofl: Hahahaha Taxation Without Representation my friend. King George III was a petty tyrant that treated the 13 colonies horribly by taxing the heck out of them so I say the American Revolution was justified.

You're first on the chopping block when Her Majesty the Queen reclaims these rebellious colonies.

I think the British would be so horrified by how Americans handle tea that they'd PANIK.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:Why not rename Washington DC, Jefferson City, Lincoln (Nebraska) and Jackson (Mississippi) too? we should not be applying modern standards to people who lived centuries ago.

Why not rename our counties as well?
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Postby Luxenermy » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:58 pm

New Jeferopholletopia wrote:
At my high school US history class, they said that it was just a tantrum over taxes.



This is a very base level view of The American War of Independence. People don't kill each other over "A tantrum over taxes" on a large scale enough to fight bitter wars against one of the world powers. The American Colonists wanted freedom from the British Crown, and to forge their own nation. They fought because they didn't have a voice in their own government, and they felt they were being imposed upon by the crown in a way they didn't deserve. The American Colonies were, for the most part, self governing. Thus when the crown started to impose it's will upon them, they weren't happy and revolted. In the end they won.
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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:58 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote: :rofl: Hahahaha Taxation Without Representation my friend. King George III was a petty tyrant that treated the 13 colonies horribly by taxing the heck out of them so I say the American Revolution was justified.

You're first on the chopping block when Her Majesty the Queen reclaims these rebellious colonies.

Lol, she ain't got a military even near the size of the USA
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:59 pm

Eukaryotic Cells wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote: :rofl: Hahahaha Taxation Without Representation my friend. King George III was a petty tyrant that treated the 13 colonies horribly by taxing the heck out of them so I say the American Revolution was justified.

You're first on the chopping block when Her Majesty the Queen reclaims these rebellious colonies.

The Queen can kiss my American ass. :twisted:
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Postby Atheris » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:00 pm

No. This opinion is one of the most idiotic, uneducated, concave brain things I've ever seen.
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Postby Northwest Kalactin » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:01 pm

Yea, no absolutely not. I am from WA State myself, and I say hell no to this.

If we rename the State of Washington, then shall we rename every state named after words from Native American Tribes? Should we rename Indiana? (Which means “land of the Indians”)
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Postby Jo Hore » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:01 pm

Get a flag, failtroll.
New Jeferopholletopia wrote:The state of Washington was named after George Washington. I have heard some argue that because George Washington was a slave owner, racist, and a homophobe that he shouldn't be glorified and that the state of Washington should be renamed. This is especially true since Washington is a heavily liberal state.

I am undecided on this, but I can definitely understand the arguments for not glorifying George Washington anymore. What do you think?

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Postby Empirical Switzerland » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:02 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
Eukaryotic Cells wrote:You're first on the chopping block when Her Majesty the Queen reclaims these rebellious colonies.

The Queen can kiss my American ass. :twisted:

Right with ya on that one!
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Postby Minskiev » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:02 pm

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Ah. But are they culturally American?


What do you mean? Like Native American? I know that a couple are from the Cado tribe.


If, say, an Indian student was studying abroad, and is a citizen, they’d be an American, but culturally, they’d be Indian. It doesn’t make sense to listen to non-Americans about an important American decision, just like we don’t let...Uzbek people in Uzbekistan, for example, vote in elections. Note that I said in Uzbekistan.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:02 pm

American Pere Housh wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why not rename Washington DC, Jefferson City, Lincoln (Nebraska) and Jackson (Mississippi) too? we should not be applying modern standards to people who lived centuries ago.

Why not rename our counties as well?


We might as well if we are going to rename Washington state.

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Postby Rusozak » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:03 pm

We didn't even rename the colonies named after British Monarchs.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:03 pm

Jo Hore wrote:Get a flag, failtroll.
New Jeferopholletopia wrote:The state of Washington was named after George Washington. I have heard some argue that because George Washington was a slave owner, racist, and a homophobe that he shouldn't be glorified and that the state of Washington should be renamed. This is especially true since Washington is a heavily liberal state.

I am undecided on this, but I can definitely understand the arguments for not glorifying George Washington anymore. What do you think?

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Postby Atheris » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:04 pm

Rusozak wrote:We didn't even rename the colonies named after British Monarchs.

VIRGINIA IS A FUCKING GREAT NAME
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Postby Minskiev » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:05 pm

Rusozak wrote:We didn't even rename the colonies named after British Monarchs.


Dead on. There’s no way we’d rename a state and go through all the hassle to rename it because some woke person doesn’t like culture from 250 years ago, if we didn’t rename colonies as a very new republic where it would be far less of a struggle and it was because of bad memories and a war to fight away from oppressors.

Also yes, Virginia’s not a very bad name.
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Postby American Pere Housh » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
American Pere Housh wrote:Why not rename our counties as well?


We might as well if we are going to rename Washington state.

Nearly every state has a county named after one of the Founding Fathers with Jefferson being the most common.
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Postby Side 3 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:06 pm

I really am amazed at just how stupid some people can be.

New Jeferopholletopia wrote:At my high school US history class, they said that it was just a tantrum over taxes.

Yeah, and also
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