RIP Ruth Bader Ginsburg!

[Major-Tom]

Also, man, Harry Reid is officially the worst Senate strategist in history

Yeah, he fucked us over very hard. Being spiteful often backfires.

[Fartsniffage]

[Kazarogkai]

I too was 14 once.

As was I long ago. I don't miss it.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

She gave the second half of her life to the Supreme Court, and we all knew she would die in office. If only she'd hung in a few more months.

[Kowani]

So, in the absence of an official source, which I will be updating as soon as I can, Senators Lisa Murkowski and Mitt Romney have committed to not confirming a SCOTUS nominee until inagauration day.

Regarding Murkowski, her statement came out as a hypothetical before RBG's death was public afaik. It's very possible a combination of McConnell's politicking and the realization voting no would end her career could get her to fall in line.

Plus, even if Romney, Murkowski and Collins all voted no (something I find doubtful with the latter two), that'd be a 50-50 split and the GOP still wins via Pence.

Yeah Romney already rolled his back to a “no comment”

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Also, man, Harry Reid is officially the worst Senate strategist in history

Really? I'd rather have someone less cynical and less competent. The President Pro Tempore is too powerful an office.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Regarding Murkowski, her statement came out as a hypothetical before RBG's death was public afaik. It's very possible a combination of McConnell's politicking and the realization voting no would end her career could get her to fall in line.

Plus, even if Romney, Murkowski and Collins all voted no (something I find doubtful with the latter two), that'd be a 50-50 split and the GOP still wins via Pence.

Yeah Romney already rolled his back to a “no comment”

I could fully see him voting in favor in that case. He might not like Trump but he still is a Republican and sees the opportunity this is.

[Tekania]

So, in the absence of an official source, which I will be updating as soon as I can, Senators Lisa Murkowski and Mitt Romney have committed to not confirming a SCOTUS nominee until inagauration day.

Regarding Murkowski, her statement came out as a hypothetical before RBG's death was public afaik. It's very possible a combination of McConnell's politicking and the realization voting no would end her career could get her to fall in line.

Plus, even if Romney, Murkowski and Collins all voted no (something I find doubtful with the latter two), that'd be a 50-50 split and the GOP still wins via Pence.

Chuck Grassley is also questionable as to doing it now as well. So potentially there is a 51-49 no/yes there as well.

That being said this will ultimately come down to the Senate Judiciary Committee as to whether confirmation hearings will be held. And with the currently calendar agenda in the Senate and committee.. that said it's unlikely to see the committee make that decision until early/mid October, and for the senate to even begin the process of confirmation hearings until mid November. It generally takes about 70 days to get a confirmation vote. Which also mean the process of confirmations would likely extend close or past the the new Presidential term with whom-ever is in office. So we could see a situation if Trump were to lose where even if the Senate held confirmation hearings, that whomever they ultimately confirmed could be pulled in the middle of the process by the new President. The President does retain the prerogative to withdraw someone from the process at any time. We could have a Trump nominee get confirmed and then the new President deny the Appointment and send new names in.

The Senate is going to really have to rush on this if they want to get a Trump nominee in guaranteed irrespective if Trump wins or not.... the timetable is very tight relative to the speed which the senate operates at this point given were already pushing into Late September.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Regarding Murkowski, her statement came out as a hypothetical before RBG's death was public afaik. It's very possible a combination of McConnell's politicking and the realization voting no would end her career could get her to fall in line.

Plus, even if Romney, Murkowski and Collins all voted no (something I find doubtful with the latter two), that'd be a 50-50 split and the GOP still wins via Pence.

Chuck Grassley is also questionable as to doing it now as well. So potentially there is a 51-49 no/yes there as well.

That being said this will ultimately come down to the Senate Judiciary Committee as to whether confirmation hearings will be held. And with the currently calendar agenda in the Senate and committee.. that said it's unlikely to see the committee make that decision until early/mid October, and for the senate to even begin the process of confirmation hearings until mid November. Which also mean the process of confirmations would likely extend close or past the the new Presidential term with whom-ever is in office. So we could see a situation if Trump were to lose where even if the Senate held confirmation hearings, that whomever they ultimately confirmed could be pulled in the middle of the process by the new President. The President does retain the prerogative to withdraw someone from the process at any time.

The Senate is going to really have to rush on this if they want to get a Trump nominee in guranteed irrespective if Trump wins or not.... the timetable is very tight relative to the speed which the senate operates at this point given were already pushing into Late September.

Grassley will fall in line imo. He was one of the people most complicit in blocking Garland.

If even Romney retracts his statement to "no comment" I feel like it's very plausible the GOP gets all 53 on board.

[Tekania]

Chuck Grassley is also questionable as to doing it now as well. So potentially there is a 51-49 no/yes there as well.

That being said this will ultimately come down to the Senate Judiciary Committee as to whether confirmation hearings will be held. And with the currently calendar agenda in the Senate and committee.. that said it's unlikely to see the committee make that decision until early/mid October, and for the senate to even begin the process of confirmation hearings until mid November. Which also mean the process of confirmations would likely extend close or past the the new Presidential term with whom-ever is in office. So we could see a situation if Trump were to lose where even if the Senate held confirmation hearings, that whomever they ultimately confirmed could be pulled in the middle of the process by the new President. The President does retain the prerogative to withdraw someone from the process at any time.

The Senate is going to really have to rush on this if they want to get a Trump nominee in guranteed irrespective if Trump wins or not.... the timetable is very tight relative to the speed which the senate operates at this point given were already pushing into Late September.

Grassley will fall in line imo. He was one of the people most complicit in blocking Garland.

If even Romney retracts his statement to "no comment" I feel like it's very plausible the GOP gets all 53 on board.

Yes, but as I said, it's unlikely any of this can honestly get completed within this term. We won't see a confirmation hearing decision likely until early next month, with confirmation hearing themselves not able to start until early November after the election.... and the last Trump nominee took almost 90 days to get through the confirmation process.

I frankly don't see it playing out much different. which means whomever is a candidate is unlikely to be confirmed before January 21st when the current Presidential term of Office expires.

The process would need to be heavily expedited and you would have to have a hell of a candidate to bring the liklihood up.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Grassley will fall in line imo. He was one of the people most complicit in blocking Garland.

If even Romney retracts his statement to "no comment" I feel like it's very plausible the GOP gets all 53 on board.

Yes, but as I said, it's unlikely any of this can honestly get completed within this term. We won't see a confirmation hearing decision likely until early next month, with confirmation hearing themselves not able to start until early November after the election.... and the last Trump nominee took almost 90 days to get through the confirmation process.

I frankly don't see it playing out much different. which means whomever is a candidate is unlikely to be confirmed before January 21st when the current Presidential term of Office expires.

I wouldn't be so sure. Mitch can move heaven and earth in the Senate, last time around they didn't need to rush and could take their time. But now? I wouldn't be shocked if he somehow forces it through in a matter of weeks, this is the sort of brutal politicking McConnell lives for.

[Page]

She was a truly great woman, one of the very, very few people in a position of power I had respect for.

Every American has a duty to help fulfill her dying wish: Write and call your Senators and tell them it is your demand as their constituent that no Trump nominee be considered until the new term.

[Grinning Dragon]

Although I didn't agree much with her jurisprudence, RIP RGB.
As to replacing her now? Sure why not. Never bought into the chicken shit excuse of it's a "presidential election year" to get out of doing their jobs. Hold a vote either up or down.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Yes, but as I said, it's unlikely any of this can honestly get completed within this term. We won't see a confirmation hearing decision likely until early next month, with confirmation hearing themselves not able to start until early November after the election.... and the last Trump nominee took almost 90 days to get through the confirmation process.

I frankly don't see it playing out much different. which means whomever is a candidate is unlikely to be confirmed before January 21st when the current Presidential term of Office expires.

I wouldn't be so sure. Mitch can move heaven and earth in the Senate, last time around they didn't need to rush and could take their time. But now? I wouldn't be shocked if he somehow forces it through in a matter of weeks, this is the sort of brutal politicking McConnell lives for.

I hope so according to my political views, of course not yours and of those who agree with you.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I wouldn't be so sure. Mitch can move heaven and earth in the Senate, last time around they didn't need to rush and could take their time. But now? I wouldn't be shocked if he somehow forces it through in a matter of weeks, this is the sort of brutal politicking McConnell lives for.

I hope so according to my political views, of course not yours and of those who agree with you.

This doesn't even make sense. I've supported most every Republican SCOTUS nominee. Get off the canned answers for once.

[Grinning Dragon]

Yes, but as I said, it's unlikely any of this can honestly get completed within this term. We won't see a confirmation hearing decision likely until early next month, with confirmation hearing themselves not able to start until early November after the election.... and the last Trump nominee took almost 90 days to get through the confirmation process.

I frankly don't see it playing out much different. which means whomever is a candidate is unlikely to be confirmed before January 21st when the current Presidential term of Office expires.

I wouldn't be so sure. Mitch can move heaven and earth in the Senate, last time around they didn't need to rush and could take their time. But now? I wouldn't be shocked if he somehow forces it through in a matter of weeks, this is the sort of brutal politicking McConnell lives for.

I agree it's very possible if mitch can rally enough votes to confirm.
RGB was confirmed in 42 days.

[Tekania]

I hope so according to my political views, of course not yours and of those who agree with you.

This doesn't even make sense. I've supported most every Republican SCOTUS nominee. Get off the canned answers for once.

Yeah, and shit like that is why I've had him on ignore for ages. He doesn't really bring anything useful to as discussion, and about all he is going to do is regurgitate canned responses. If I wanted to deal with something like that I'd head over to my Debate Communities and argue with Flat-earthers.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I hope so according to my political views, of course not yours and of those who agree with you.

This doesn't even make sense. I've supported most every Republican SCOTUS nominee. Get off the canned answers for once.

So you do favor a strong conservative US Supreme Court nominee by President Trump before the election, like Judge Amy Coney Barrett or stronger if possible? This is the first post I have ever seen from you as a true right winger, but I have not checked out your posts yet, now I will soon.

The canned answer in this particular post was meant as a phrase which fits the post.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I wouldn't be so sure. Mitch can move heaven and earth in the Senate, last time around they didn't need to rush and could take their time. But now? I wouldn't be shocked if he somehow forces it through in a matter of weeks, this is the sort of brutal politicking McConnell lives for.

I agree it's very possible if mitch can rally enough votes to confirm.
RGB was confirmed in 42 days.

Honestly if there's anyone who can beat 42 days it's McConnell. Love him or hate him, the Senate is his battleground.

[The Huskar Social Union]

rip

[Greater Miami Shores]

I agree it's very possible if mitch can rally enough votes to confirm.
RGB was confirmed in 42 days.

Honestly if there's anyone who can beat 42 days it's McConnell. Love him or hate him, the Senate is his battleground.

If both of you are correct, in 42 days, this is awesome news from my political perspective.

I don't doubt your words.

[Liriena]

The Wicked Witch is finally dead.

Oh hey, I was wondering when the gloating nazis would show up.

Posted lots of cringe today, bucko?

[The Archregimancy]

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[The Archregimancy]

Given the nature of this news, no gloating, trolling, or flaming by either side will be tolerated.

The Wicked Witch is finally dead.

*** 1-day ban for trolling ***

If you don't have anything nice to say it's better to say nothing at all.

That's simp talk. Your just mad because your girl is dead and got a big L in the process.

Only the weak and the pathetic respect their enemies and wish not for their eventual downfall. When you enemy is no longer capable of facing you no matter the circumstance that is a victory and should be treated accordingly. If Stalin were to have died in Moscow would Hitler have lamented? would he have cried? Would he feel in anyway sympathetic? No, Like a proper Great Man he would have pissed on his grave(Figuratively or literally) savoring what he had achieved against his enemy and move on quietly to the next. Vice versa would have held true for the opposite.

Great men seek to destroy the legacies of their enemies, not uphold let alone "respect" them in any measurable way.

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[The Huskar Social Union]

Wow this thread turned into a powder keg when i was asleep.