RIP Ruth Bader Ginsburg!

[The Black Forrest]

Even then; it’s a life time appointment. Why does she have to retire?

Again she did not have to, but she was fully aware that if she wanted her side to hold the seat, that was her best chance.
She chose not to take it. That was still her decision, and that decision had consequences.

Hmmm. Sounds like you are blaming her. I would redirect the “anger” towards the people who wish to subvert the institution.

[Novus America]

Again she did not have to, but she was fully aware that if she wanted her side to hold the seat, that was her best chance.
She chose not to take it. That was still her decision, and that decision had consequences.

Hmmm. Sounds like you are blaming her. I would redirect the “anger” towards the people who wish to subvert the institution.

I mean it is just a fact her decision not to had consequences. If you are 80, and your party holds the presidency and senate, you want them to hold the court seat a long long time, stepping aside for someone younger makes logical sense. And if you do not, the risk of dying and being replaced by someone from the other side is high.

I am not angry at her, but I am just pointing that fact out.

[Picairn]

RIP Ginsburg. You put up a good fight.

[Kazarogkai]

Well that's a victory for the Empire certainly. I'm not nice enough nor enough of a politically correct simp to pretend to have condolences towards her family so don't expect it. All that matters to me is the Political importance and how it might effect things going forward. Assuming Trump drags his feet and doesn't immediately fill it it might serve as strong encouragement for democrats to get the vote out. Gotta get the Presidency or Trump will fill that seat. On the otherhand Supreme court nominations tend to motivate Republicans a bit more so there is that.

Would it be better for Trump to fill the seat before the election and thereby ingratiate himself with his current base immediately hoping they don't forget this boon by November, or wait until after to put a fire in their ass? That is the question.

[Bardo]

Rest in Power Notorious RBG

[The Black Forrest]

Well that's a victory for the Empire certainly. I'm not nice enough nor enough of a politically correct simp to pretend to have condolences towards her family so don't expect it. All that matters to me is the Political importance and how it might effect things going forward. Assuming Trump drags his feet and doesn't immediately fill it it might serve as strong encouragement for democrats to get the vote out. Gotta get the Presidency or Trump will fill that seat. On the otherhand Supreme court nominations tend to motivate Republicans a bit more so there is that.

Would it be better for Trump to fill the seat before the election and thereby ingratiate himself with his current base immediately hoping they don't forget this boon by November, or wait until after to put a fire in their ass? That is the question.

Oh Trump is very happy she died. It now serves his political desires to try an rally the base.

[Tarsonis]

Although it this rate I think we might see this...

August 8, 2160
“In a narrow 10,000 to 9,999 vote the Supreme Court ruled the Venusian electoral vote may be allocate to Beef Supreme...

They're gonna need a bigger boat.

[Bombadil]

Well that's a victory for the Empire certainly. I'm not nice enough nor enough of a politically correct simp to pretend to have condolences towards her family so don't expect it. All that matters to me is the Political importance and how it might effect things going forward. Assuming Trump drags his feet and doesn't immediately fill it it might serve as strong encouragement for democrats to get the vote out. Gotta get the Presidency or Trump will fill that seat. On the otherhand Supreme court nominations tend to motivate Republicans a bit more so there is that.

Would it be better for Trump to fill the seat before the election and thereby ingratiate himself with his current base immediately hoping they don't forget this boon by November, or wait until after to put a fire in their ass? That is the question.

Oh Trump is very happy she died. It now serves his political desires to try an rally the base.

The base is always rallied, it's been remarkable simply how consistent his support has been among Republicans, the question is whether this moves the 5-6% of swing votes in his favour he needs.

The simple reality is they will push this through at all costs, apparently Trump quipped even Democrats would support a Cruz nomination if only to get him the hell out of Congress.

[Tarsonis]

Hmmm. Sounds like you are blaming her. I would redirect the “anger” towards the people who wish to subvert the institution.

I mean it is just a fact her decision not to had consequences. If you are 80, and your party holds the presidency and senate, you want them to hold the court seat a long long time, stepping aside for someone younger makes logical sense. And if you do not, the risk of dying and being replaced by someone from the other side is high.

I am not angry at her, but I am just pointing that fact out.

CNN talked about that, She didn't retire because she thought a Clinton presidency was assured.

[Thermodolia]

I mean it is just a fact her decision not to had consequences. If you are 80, and your party holds the presidency and senate, you want them to hold the court seat a long long time, stepping aside for someone younger makes logical sense. And if you do not, the risk of dying and being replaced by someone from the other side is high.

I am not angry at her, but I am just pointing that fact out.

CNN talked about that, She didn't retire because she thought a Clinton presidency was assured.

What a dumb move

[Talvezout]

Given the sheer, near white hot rage and emotions coming from the Dem base right now, 2020 may very well turn out to be a slaughter for the GOP. If Scalia made Republicans rally around the top of the ticket, Ginsburg - who was practically beloved by nearly everyone who votes for Dems, or is Dem adjacent - may make the rallying look more like a tidal wave.

The fact that the GOP decided to boot out suburb folks - people who are the type to love Ginsburg - might have very well doomed them.

Trump already has his base maxed out in the rurals and exurbs. Democrats however, have a ton of room to grow in the urban and suburban areas.

[Picairn]

CNN talked about that, She didn't retire because she thought a Clinton presidency was assured.

I thought she didn't retire because she vowed not to retire until Trump gets kicked out?

[Tarsonis]

CNN talked about that, She didn't retire because she thought a Clinton presidency was assured.

I thought she didn't retire because she vowed not to retire until Trump gets kicked out?

Yeah. We're talking about why she didn't retire during President Obama's term.

[Broader Confederate States]

Given the sheer, near white hot rage and emotions coming from the Dem base right now, 2020 may very well turn out to be a slaughter for the GOP. If Scalia made Republicans rally around the top of the ticket, Ginsburg - who was practically beloved by nearly everyone who votes for Dems, or is Dem adjacent - may make the rallying look more like a tidal wave.

The fact that the GOP decided to boot out suburb folks - people who are the type to love Ginsburg - might have very well doomed them.

Trump already has his base maxed out in the rurals and exurbs. Democrats however, have a ton of room to grow in the urban and suburban areas.

Informed politically active voters are statistically insignificant. 10 times out of 11, the candidate with thee most money wins. All that really matters are the amount of ads Joe Sixpack sees.

[Liriena]

She seemed like a fine, forward-thinking jurist who left a hell of a legacy.

This year sucks hard.

Definitely not looking forward to Republicans trying to replace her with Tom Cotton or some other warmongering authoritarian psychopath.

[Sundiata]

I thought she didn't retire because she vowed not to retire until Trump gets kicked out?

Yeah. We're talking about why she didn't retire during President Obama's term.

I imagine it's because a Republican (Trump) won during President Obama's last term. Also, Mitch Mcconnell blocked President Obama from appointing a new Supreme Court Justice. RBG had no other choice if she was going to stand for her values.

[Liriena]

Given the sheer, near white hot rage and emotions coming from the Dem base right now, 2020 may very well turn out to be a slaughter for the GOP. If Scalia made Republicans rally around the top of the ticket, Ginsburg - who was practically beloved by nearly everyone who votes for Dems, or is Dem adjacent - may make the rallying look more like a tidal wave.

The fact that the GOP decided to boot out suburb folks - people who are the type to love Ginsburg - might have very well doomed them.

Trump already has his base maxed out in the rurals and exurbs. Democrats however, have a ton of room to grow in the urban and suburban areas.

Informed politically active voters are statistically insignificant. 10 times out of 11, the candidate with thee most money wins. All that really matters are the amount of ads Joe Sixpack sees.

I've got good news for Biden then.

[Tarsonis]

She seemed like a fine, forward-thinking jurist who left a hell of a legacy.

This year sucks hard.

Definitely not looking forward to Republicans trying to replace her with Tom Cotton or some other warmongering authoritarian psychopath.

Barret is the favorite from what I've heard.

[Liriena]

Yeah. We're talking about why she didn't retire during President Obama's term.

I imagine it's because a Republican (Trump) won during President Obama's last term. Also, Mitch Mcconnell blocked President Obama from appointing a new Supreme Court Justice. RBG had no other choice if she was going to stand for her values.

She really should have taken advantage of the majority Democrats had early in Obama's presidency and retired. But we're waaaaaaay past that now.

[Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio]

Good judge, liked her. Guess she decided that she wasn't leaving unless it was on a stretcher, had a professor like that.

Sad she's dead but I can't wait for all hell to break loose when the democrats realize trump is going to nominate her replacement.

I am sure they will say WTF is wrong with you if the Demos suggest this should wait till after the elections.

Being hypocrites the cons will forget how long they held up Garland with that excuse.

Of course, in that scenario it was the end of the two terms, not just the end of one term which may continue.

[Tarsonis]

Yeah. We're talking about why she didn't retire during President Obama's term.

I imagine it's because a Republican (Trump) won during President Obama's last term. Also, Mitch Mcconnell blocked President Obama from appointing a new Supreme Court Justice. RBG had no other choice if she was going to stand for her values.

Sure, but there were a number of times during his last term that RBG had reasonable opportunity to bow out gracefully and President Obama fill her seat. She held too long, and by the time she realized Clinton wouldn't win, it was too late to bow out then.

[Picairn]

She really should have taken advantage of the majority Democrats had early in Obama's presidency and retired. But we're waaaaaaay past that now.

2009 feels like eons ago...

[Talvezout]

Given the sheer, near white hot rage and emotions coming from the Dem base right now, 2020 may very well turn out to be a slaughter for the GOP. If Scalia made Republicans rally around the top of the ticket, Ginsburg - who was practically beloved by nearly everyone who votes for Dems, or is Dem adjacent - may make the rallying look more like a tidal wave.

The fact that the GOP decided to boot out suburb folks - people who are the type to love Ginsburg - might have very well doomed them.

Trump already has his base maxed out in the rurals and exurbs. Democrats however, have a ton of room to grow in the urban and suburban areas.

Informed politically active voters are statistically insignificant. 10 times out of 11, the candidate with thee most money wins. All that really matters are the amount of ads Joe Sixpack sees.

I mean, RBG was one of the few figures who nearly every Democrat loved - the wealth of paraphernalia dedicated to her is evident enough. Not to mention, people have been becoming more political active and aware of what's going on, and with ActBlue raising 11 mil in the past two hours, something is happening.

[Sundiata]

I imagine it's because a Republican (Trump) won during President Obama's last term. Also, Mitch Mcconnell blocked President Obama from appointing a new Supreme Court Justice. RBG had no other choice if she was going to stand for her values.

She really should have taken advantage of the majority Democrats had early in Obama's presidency and retired.

During that time she was often a lone voice on the court with respect to issues like voting rights if I recall correctly. She didn't want the court to swing in the other direction.

[Novus America]

Yeah. We're talking about why she didn't retire during President Obama's term.

I imagine it's because a Republican (Trump) won during President Obama's last term. Also, Mitch Mcconnell blocked President Obama from appointing a new Supreme Court Justice. RBG had no other choice if she was going to stand for her values.

In 2014 yes. She could have retired in 2013 though. When you are 80 and the political situation is to your advantage it is not a bad time. She had her chance, missed it, and it the chance did not come up again.
Sometimes that is the way it is.