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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:50 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kowani wrote:Well, close. Most of the time, it’s not used to mask racism. (I’m sure that’s happened somewhere, but it’s not the way these things generally happen. Most of the people doing the adoption do genuinely have good intentions. They genuinely want to improve the lives of the children they adopt. Let me be very clear, for posterity, so that nobody misrepresents this: You can have non-racist intentions, and yet further a racist system through optics. WSS refers to the image being projected of-as is alluded to-a white savior, who swoops in and fixes everything, through their access to greater resources given to them through a dual system that is designed to their benefit-capitalism on one hand, white supremacy on the other. Whether or not Barrett actually believes that she does this is entirely irrelevant to the cultural ideals it furthers.


Why would-I don’t care whether people have or haven’t, it’s entirely irrelevant to the point.


So you are making up a claim over the unknown details on how/why she adopted these children.

I think we can ignore you on this one.

Did you read anything I wrote?
It has fuck-all to do with why she did it, it’s about how that action fits into the larger cultural dialogue.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:54 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
So you are making up a claim over the unknown details on how/why she adopted these children.

I think we can ignore you on this one.

Did you read anything I wrote?
It has fuck-all to do with why she did it, it’s about how that action fits into the larger cultural dialogue.


You brought it up against Barrett in a thread about her, RBG and SCOTUS. You want to talk about white people adopting non-white kids and culture? Start a new thread.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:54 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
So you are making up a claim over the unknown details on how/why she adopted these children.

I think we can ignore you on this one.

Did you read anything I wrote?
It has fuck-all to do with why she did it, it’s about how that action fits into the larger cultural dialogue.

It doesn’t. Nobody gives a shit except you. The rest of us see it as it is, as an act of beneficence, not some mental gymnastics about how improving people’s lives furthers white supremacy.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:35 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kowani wrote:Did you read anything I wrote?
It has fuck-all to do with why she did it, it’s about how that action fits into the larger cultural dialogue.


You brought it up against Barrett in a thread about her, RBG and SCOTUS. You want to talk about white people adopting non-white kids and culture? Start a new thread.

…Tarsonis started the convo, not me.
Seriously people, we can go back and read thread topics. It’s not impossible.

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Kowani wrote:Did you read anything I wrote?
It has fuck-all to do with why she did it, it’s about how that action fits into the larger cultural dialogue.

It doesn’t. Nobody gives a shit except you. The rest of us see it as it is, as an act of beneficence, not some mental gymnastics about how improving people’s lives furthers white supremacy.

Me: “gives an explanation based on questions I was asked”
You: “Oh nobody cares lol”
Jesus Christ, class reductionism is mind numbing.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:40 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You brought it up against Barrett in a thread about her, RBG and SCOTUS. You want to talk about white people adopting non-white kids and culture? Start a new thread.

…Tarsonis started the convo, not me.
Seriously people, we can go back and read thread topics. It’s not impossible.

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:It doesn’t. Nobody gives a shit except you. The rest of us see it as it is, as an act of beneficence, not some mental gymnastics about how improving people’s lives furthers white supremacy.

Me: “gives an explanation based on questions I was asked”
You: “Oh nobody cares lol”
Jesus Christ, class reductionism is mind numbing.


Yes. He mentioned “ 2 of which were adopted from Haiti and surprise she's already being branded a racist for it.”.

You introduced WSS and are running with it.
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:41 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You brought it up against Barrett in a thread about her, RBG and SCOTUS. You want to talk about white people adopting non-white kids and culture? Start a new thread.

…Tarsonis started the convo, not me.
Seriously people, we can go back and read thread topics. It’s not impossible.

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:It doesn’t. Nobody gives a shit except you. The rest of us see it as it is, as an act of beneficence, not some mental gymnastics about how improving people’s lives furthers white supremacy.

Me: “gives an explanation based on questions I was asked”
You: “Oh nobody cares lol”
Jesus Christ, class reductionism is mind numbing.

I’m not a class reductionist. You’re the one claiming racism out of thin fucking air.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:17 pm

Kowani wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You brought it up against Barrett in a thread about her, RBG and SCOTUS. You want to talk about white people adopting non-white kids and culture? Start a new thread.

…Tarsonis started the convo, not me.
Seriously people, we can go back and read thread topics. It’s not impossible.

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:It doesn’t. Nobody gives a shit except you. The rest of us see it as it is, as an act of beneficence, not some mental gymnastics about how improving people’s lives furthers white supremacy.

Me: “gives an explanation based on questions I was asked”
You: “Oh nobody cares lol”
Jesus Christ, class reductionism is mind numbing.


Yes, but I brought it up as an example of how the left was going to dangerously ridiculous lengths to try and demonize Barrett.

You're the one who put the ball into play.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:31 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Kowani wrote:…Tarsonis started the convo, not me.
Seriously people, we can go back and read thread topics. It’s not impossible.


Me: “gives an explanation based on questions I was asked”
You: “Oh nobody cares lol”
Jesus Christ, class reductionism is mind numbing.


Yes. He mentioned “ 2 of which were adopted from Haiti and surprise she's already being branded a racist for it.”.

You introduced WSS and are running with it.

:eyebrow: I’m positive there’s an argument here somewhere.

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Kowani wrote:…Tarsonis started the convo, not me.
Seriously people, we can go back and read thread topics. It’s not impossible.


Me: “gives an explanation based on questions I was asked”
You: “Oh nobody cares lol”
Jesus Christ, class reductionism is mind numbing.

I’m not a class reductionist.

Oh, no, you totally are.

You’re the one claiming racism out of thin fucking air.

You could always try engaging with the argument instead if…I assume this is trying to be dismissive?
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:36 pm

I believe this thread has served its purpose as a place to express admiration or disapproval of Justice Ginsburg. Her obsequies are nearly complete. Political discussion of Judge Barrett, nominated to her place on the Court, can continue in a new thread.
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