"Survey finds lack of holocaust knowledge in american young"

[Sanghyeok]

It's also why we ..... have a generation of Marxists.

Is there something wrong with that?

[Kungsu]

We don't teach it in school is why.

When we get to WWII we talk about the war itself with off-hand mentions of genocide and what not by the Nazis. That's it. They rarely say anything more than "Jews", "genocide", and "death camps". They never go into any more detail than that.

They went into fair detail in my school. Though I doubt they do nowadays.

Thinking back on it, I think my class ended spending a week tops on WWII, with the justification that "everybody already knows this". And it was all ultra-basic information as well, like which major powers were on what side. In fact, the only two times Asia was mentioned was when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and when we nuked Japan.

As far as the Holocaust went, I think they basically said "6 million Jews died", showed us a few photos, and played Schindler's List for us (which was great, but still). They did mention some of the other groups killed as well, but definitely did not give a number to them. This also did not help prevent me from becoming a Holocaust denier for the several year span that I was a far-right libertarian.

More time was spent on things less relevant, such as Aztecs/Incans/Mayans, the EXACT timeline of the Early Middle Ages, and even the Bering Strait Land Bridge Theory. And most of the information presented turned out to be factually unsound or even downright wrong!

And this was, like, 10 years ago at this point in suburban Florida. I highly doubt the American education system has seen any improvement since then.

[Sanghyeok]

I remember going to one museum, where they had shoes.

Just the shoes of the people who were killed.
Do you know the feeling? To see the emptiness of all those shoes, of all sorts and types, and to know that they were slaughtered, each a life that was cut short by the Nazis.

I think they can do this in more cities: piles of shoes, of people who were killed. People will not forget then.

Yad Vashem has something like that but it’s just children’s shoes. And there’s thousands of them. I threw up after seeing that.

I am already usually a very emotional person. I now understand why they say those places are not suitable for children. I read about it in textbooks, of course, but to see the clothes, shoes, even the gold teeth that the Nazis took from victims is disgusting.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Ironically enough I met a dude who became a denier after visiting Auschwitz.

How the fuck did that happen?

iirc he more or less reached the conclusion none of it could have worked as he was taught it did because of the gas chamber design and he didn't believe there were enough crematoria to burn that many bodies

Craziest thing is he wasn't some insane neo-Nazi. He was otherwise a pretty middle of the road dude who agreed with Dems on some things and the GOP on others, he just thought the Holocaust was as fake as WWE. It was a weird experience.

[New Spain of the North]

This is in fact to be expected of something that never even happened. The problem is all of the people to believe this fiction to have actually taken place, which it didn't.

[San Kalungsod Saludong]

Well the second part is true, that Jews form the elite 1% of America right now.

Here's a chart of income per religion in the USA.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_an ... ted_States

Anyway, even when millions more American got massacred in Hawaii and the Philippines than in Europe, Europeans and Jews, on the basis that they are cousins of Americans and are the richest kind of Americans by religion, get more mention in American history books than actual Americans by descent (800,000) killed or imprisoned on American soil (Hawaii and the Philiippines) because lol the areas the crimes happened at, Asia, is not rich and are not European. Lol.

Amazing, but what does wealth = holocaust.

Jews elite status now in America makes Jews hammer down in Americans how its all about them even when it isn't, Jews are just like everyone else, people who are also admirable and also have some imperfection too, well unfortunately many Jews did die, and the Holocaust should be studied and fostered but it should not come down to the point wherein Nazi atrocities in American textbooks get more space than the actual MILLIONS of American citizens killed in the Pacific, when during that time period, there were more Americans actually living in their Hawaiian and Philippine colonies than living in Europe. Yet Americans get taught more about the Holocaust of Jews which they cannot control and did not happen in American territory than the actual massacre of Americans in the Philippine and Hawaii.

[Sanghyeok]

This is in fact to be expected of something that never even happened. The problem is all of the people to believe this fiction to have actually taken place, which it didn't.

I do sincerely hope you are joking. Holocaust denial is not funny, at all.

[-Astoria-]

It's also why we ..... have a generation of Marxists.

Is there something wrong with that?

In this case, "Marxist" being "anything vaguely left-leaning".

[Nilrahrarfan]

Title from Source 3 URL

Source 1: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ults-study
Source 2: https://filmdaily.co/news/holocaust-myth
Source 3: https://www.voanews.com/usa/survey-find ... ung-adults
Source 4: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act ... -knowledge
Source 5: https://www.joe.co.uk/news/10-of-young- ... ust-249427

Almost two-thirds of young American adults do not know that 6 million Jews were killed during the Holocaust, and more than one in 10 believe Jews caused the Holocaust, a new survey has found, revealing shocking levels of ignorance about the greatest crime of the 20th century.

According to the study of millennial and Gen Z adults aged between 18 and 39, almost half (48%) could not name a single concentration camp or ghetto established during the second world war.

Almost a quarter of respondents (23%) said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, or had been exaggerated, or they weren’t sure. One in eight (12%) said they had definitely not heard, or didn’t think they had heard, about the Holocaust.

More than half (56%) said they had seen Nazi symbols on their social media platforms and/or in their communities, and almost half (49%) had seen Holocaust denial or distortion posts on social media or elsewhere online.

“The results are both shocking and saddening, and they underscore why we must act now while Holocaust survivors are still with us to voice their stories,” said Gideon Taylor, president of the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany (Claims Conference) which commissioned the survey.

Taylor added: “We need to understand why we aren’t doing better in educating a younger generation about the Holocaust and the lessons of the past. This needs to serve as a wake-up call to us all, and as a road map of where government officials need to act.”

The survey, the first to drill down to state level in the US, ranks states according to a score based on three criteria: whether young people have definitely heard about the Holocaust; whether they can name one concentration camp, death camp or ghetto; and whether they know 6 million Jews were killed.

The top-scoring state was Wisconsin, where 42% of millennial and Gen Z adults met all three criteria, followed by Minnesota at 37% and Massachusetts at 35%. The lowest-scoring states were Florida at 20%, Mississippi at 18% and Arkansas at 17%.

Nationally, 63% of respondents did not know 6 million Jews were murdered during the Holocaust, and more than one in three (36%) thought 2 million or fewer had been killed.

Eleven per cent of respondents across the US believed that Jews had caused the Holocaust, with the proportion in New York state at 19%, followed by 16% in Louisiana, Tennessee and Montana, and 15% in Arizona, Connecticut, Georgia, Nevada and New Mexico.

Nationally, 44% of those questioned were able to identify Auschwitz-Birkenau, and only 3% were familiar with Bergen-Belsen. Six out of 10 respondents in Texas could not name a single concentration camp or ghetto.

However, almost two-thirds (64%) of American millennial and Gen Z adults believe Holocaust education should be compulsory in schools. Seven out of 10 said it was not acceptable for an individual to hold neo-Nazi views.

The Claims Conference, whose mission is “to provide a measure of justice for Jewish Holocaust victims”, set up a taskforce to oversee the survey. It included Holocaust survivors, historians and experts from Yad Vashem and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Data was collected from 1,000 interviews nationwide and 200 interviews in each state with young adults aged 18 to 39 selected at random.

......

You heard right.

Less than 100 years after the holocaust, it seems about a quarter of younger Americans either believe it was a myth or exaggerated. However, as the article says "almost two-thirds (64%) of American millennial and Gen Z adults believe Holocaust education should be compulsory in schools. Seven out of 10 said it was not acceptable for an individual to hold neo-Nazi views."

What is your opinion on this?

Holocaust Denial is part of free speech. You take that away, and it leads to a slippery slope that eventually causes SOPA-like laws to pass.

[La Xinga]

Amazing, but what does wealth = holocaust.

Jews elite status now in America makes Jews hammer down in Americans how its all about them even when it isn't, Jews are just like everyone else, people who are also admirable and also have some imperfection too, well unfortunately many Jews did die, and the Holocaust should be studied and fostered but it should not come down to the point wherein Nazi atrocities in American textbooks get more space than the actual MILLIONS of American citizens killed in the Pacific, when during that time period, there were more Americans actually living in their Hawaiian and Philippine colonies than living in Europe. Yet Americans get taught more about the Holocaust of Jews which they cannot control and did not happen in American territory than the actual massacre of Americans in the Philippine and Hawaii.

I agree with almost anything, but don't you think it has to do more with the fact they were in Europe than the first statement?

[Sanghyeok]

Is there something wrong with that?

In this case, "Marxist" being "anything vaguely left-leaning".

Media in the US: Democractic Party is Marxist! Western Europe is Marxist! Northern Europe is Socialist Paradise!
Me: If only....

[Novus America]

Just think if the Holocaust was going on today we would be outsourcing our manufacturing to the Nazis because their labor is “cheaper”.

We really learned nothing.

Now we ignore any atrocity to get “cheap” electronics. So it is not surprising we care so little about atrocities that happened 75 years ago.
We economically support today similar, albeit on a lesser scale the same type of stuff now.

[Nuroblav]

I remember going to one museum, where they had shoes.

Just the shoes of the people who were killed.
Do you know the feeling? To see the emptiness of all those shoes, of all sorts and types, and to know that they were slaughtered, each a life that was cut short by the Nazis.

I think they can do this in more cities: piles of shoes, of people who were killed. People will not forget then.

In Auschwitz - as far as I know - there's an entire pile of items brought to the concentration camp. It does hit home.

Is there something wrong with that?

Even then, a generation of 'Marxists' is way too much of a stretch. Most are probably liberals at best. At least that's the case where I am.

[Albionist Great Britain]

I remember going to one museum, where they had shoes.

Just the shoes of the people who were killed.
Do you know the feeling? To see the emptiness of all those shoes, of all sorts and types, and to know that they were slaughtered, each a life that was cut short by the Nazis.

I think they can do this in more cities: piles of shoes, of people who were killed. People will not forget then.

They have piles of shoes, prosthetics, kitchen stuff like pots and pans, clothes, and even human hair in Auschwitz-1. Auschwitz-Birkenau doesn’t have those due to lack of large enough buildings and to preserve the solemnness of the place. It was a chilling experience when the whole area was covered in snow when I went in February 2018.

[Kowani]

Holocaust Denial is part of free speech. You take that away, and it leads to a slippery slope that eventually causes SOPA-like laws to pass.

…What the fuck are you talking about-

[Albionist Great Britain]

Just think if the Holocaust was going on today we would be outsourcing our manufacturing to the Nazis because their labor is “cheaper”.

We really learned nothing.

Now we ignore any atrocity to get “cheap” electronics. So it is not surprising we care so little about atrocities that happened 75 years ago.
We economically support today similar, albeit on a lesser scale the same type of stuff now.

That is correct. There is literal ethnic cleansing and genocide going on in East Turkestan, yet few seem to even care.

[Sanghyeok]

Holocaust Denial is part of free speech. You take that away, and it leads to a slippery slope that eventually causes SOPA-like laws to pass.

…What the fuck are you talking about-

Nazis love free speech, but only for Nazi things.

[Andsed]

They went into fair detail in my school. Though I doubt they do nowadays.

I knew about from family, obviously, and from school. Plus I had an affinity for WW2/Cold War history so I had a lot of books on the subject.

The easiest way to show these kids what happened is a trip to the nearest Holocaust museum. Or bringing in a Holocaust survivor

Also showing them images of survivors is a good way to make sure they understand. Seeing damm near skeletal looking people is something that tends to stick with people as morbid as that is.

[Minskiev]

Surprising considering every person in America that I've interacted with knows about the oft-quoted 6 million deaths statistic (which btw excludes non-Jewish victims-- thanks, America), and believe that it was real.

Exactly which part of America did this survey go to?

Heh. Actually a good question, because I bet it’s definitely variable.

Title from Source 3 URL

Source 1: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ults-study
Source 2: https://filmdaily.co/news/holocaust-myth
Source 3: https://www.voanews.com/usa/survey-find ... ung-adults
Source 4: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act ... -knowledge
Source 5: https://www.joe.co.uk/news/10-of-young- ... ust-249427

Almost two-thirds of young American adults do not know that 6 million Jews were killed during the Holocaust, and more than one in 10 believe Jews caused the Holocaust, a new survey has found, revealing shocking levels of ignorance about the greatest crime of the 20th century.

According to the study of millennial and Gen Z adults aged between 18 and 39, almost half (48%) could not name a single concentration camp or ghetto established during the second world war.

Almost a quarter of respondents (23%) said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, or had been exaggerated, or they weren’t sure. One in eight (12%) said they had definitely not heard, or didn’t think they had heard, about the Holocaust.

More than half (56%) said they had seen Nazi symbols on their social media platforms and/or in their communities, and almost half (49%) had seen Holocaust denial or distortion posts on social media or elsewhere online.

“The results are both shocking and saddening, and they underscore why we must act now while Holocaust survivors are still with us to voice their stories,” said Gideon Taylor, president of the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany (Claims Conference) which commissioned the survey.

Taylor added: “We need to understand why we aren’t doing better in educating a younger generation about the Holocaust and the lessons of the past. This needs to serve as a wake-up call to us all, and as a road map of where government officials need to act.”

The survey, the first to drill down to state level in the US, ranks states according to a score based on three criteria: whether young people have definitely heard about the Holocaust; whether they can name one concentration camp, death camp or ghetto; and whether they know 6 million Jews were killed.

The top-scoring state was Wisconsin, where 42% of millennial and Gen Z adults met all three criteria, followed by Minnesota at 37% and Massachusetts at 35%. The lowest-scoring states were Florida at 20%, Mississippi at 18% and Arkansas at 17%.

Nationally, 63% of respondents did not know 6 million Jews were murdered during the Holocaust, and more than one in three (36%) thought 2 million or fewer had been killed.

Eleven per cent of respondents across the US believed that Jews had caused the Holocaust, with the proportion in New York state at 19%, followed by 16% in Louisiana, Tennessee and Montana, and 15% in Arizona, Connecticut, Georgia, Nevada and New Mexico.

Nationally, 44% of those questioned were able to identify Auschwitz-Birkenau, and only 3% were familiar with Bergen-Belsen. Six out of 10 respondents in Texas could not name a single concentration camp or ghetto.

However, almost two-thirds (64%) of American millennial and Gen Z adults believe Holocaust education should be compulsory in schools. Seven out of 10 said it was not acceptable for an individual to hold neo-Nazi views.

The Claims Conference, whose mission is “to provide a measure of justice for Jewish Holocaust victims”, set up a taskforce to oversee the survey. It included Holocaust survivors, historians and experts from Yad Vashem and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Data was collected from 1,000 interviews nationwide and 200 interviews in each state with young adults aged 18 to 39 selected at random.

......

You heard right.

Less than 100 years after the holocaust, it seems about a quarter of younger Americans either believe it was a myth or exaggerated. However, as the article says "almost two-thirds (64%) of American millennial and Gen Z adults believe Holocaust education should be compulsory in schools. Seven out of 10 said it was not acceptable for an individual to hold neo-Nazi views."

What is your opinion on this?

Holocaust Denial is part of free speech. You take that away, and it leads to a slippery slope that eventually causes SOPA-like laws to pass.

The majority of it isn’t denial because they strongly believe and think they know that it didn’t happen, but simply ignorance.

[San Kalungsod Saludong]

Well the second part is true, that Jews form the elite 1% of America right now.

Here's a chart of income per religion in the USA.

(Image)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_an ... ted_States

Anyway, even when millions more American got massacred in Hawaii and the Philippines than in Europe, Europeans and Jews, on the basis that they are cousins of Americans and are the richest kind of Americans by religion, get more mention in American history books than actual Americans by descent (800,000) killed or imprisoned on American soil (Hawaii and the Philiippines) because lol the areas the crimes happened at, Asia, is not rich and are not European. Lol.

Jehovah's Witnessess make $24,000
I think that alone says more about America than anything else on the chart.

Jehova's Witnesses is a historically ignorant religion.

Jehovah is a corruption of the Jewish God Yahweh. Except during Roman times, J and Y are letters witht the same pronuncitation, I know this, since as a Filipino we have Spanish loanwords based on Latin (Spanish is a Romance language) and we still interchange J and Y, in much later English J became exclusively J pronounced alone however they interpreted the letter as pronounced as J instead Y in ancient Hebrew and J and Y having the Y interchangeable pronounciation during Roman times, only people ignorant of culture or history believe that God was called "J" as in "G" ovah and V as U was also interchangeable in Roman Times and only differenciated post-Rome.

[Novus America]

Just think if the Holocaust was going on today we would be outsourcing our manufacturing to the Nazis because their labor is “cheaper”.

We really learned nothing.

Now we ignore any atrocity to get “cheap” electronics. So it is not surprising we care so little about atrocities that happened 75 years ago.
We economically support today similar, albeit on a lesser scale the same type of stuff now.

That is correct. There is literal ethnic cleansing and genocide going on in East Turkestan, yet few seem to even care.

Ethnic cleansing and genocide fine, as long as the perpetrators sells us “cheap” stuff.
Postmodern economic logic.

People forget we won WWII and stopped the Holocaust because we had more manufacturing than the Nazis. Today we would have let them win the war.

[Kowani]

Just think if the Holocaust was going on today we would be outsourcing our manufacturing to the Nazis because their labor is “cheaper”.

We really learned nothing.

Now we ignore any atrocity to get “cheap” electronics. So it is not surprising we care so little about atrocities that happened 75 years ago.
We economically support today similar, albeit on a lesser scale the same type of stuff now.

That is correct. There is literal ethnic cleansing and genocide going on in East Turkestan, yet few seem to even care.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_Hu ... Policy_Act

Sigh

…What the fuck are you talking about-

Nazis love free speech, but only for Nazi things.

Richard Spencer said it best.

[Neutraligon]

I remember going to one museum, where they had shoes.

Just the shoes of the people who were killed.
Do you know the feeling? To see the emptiness of all those shoes, of all sorts and types, and to know that they were slaughtered, each a life that was cut short by the Nazis.

I think they can do this in more cities: piles of shoes, of people who were killed. People will not forget then.

Yad Vashem has something like that but it’s just children’s shoes. And there’s thousands of them. I threw up after seeing that.

There is one particular location in Yad Vashem that haunts me. Dark building with a ton of mirrors and candles, and voice reading the names of the children and the age they died. This sorta get's it across https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU-siyN ... 5%E5%BC%98

[Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire]

This is in fact to be expected of something that never even happened. The problem is all of the people to believe this fiction to have actually taken place, which it didn't.

This phrase right here is the true definition of a bruh moment.

[New Spain of the North]

This is in fact to be expected of something that never even happened. The problem is all of the people to believe this fiction to have actually taken place, which it didn't.

I do sincerely hope you are joking. Holocaust denial is not funny, at all.

What do you mean "holocaust denial"? This a truth vs falsehood thing. The holocaust tale has long been debunked and it only continues to be taught as history out of nostalgia from "the greatest generation". The whole tale has long been known to be nothing but American imperialist post-war propaganda to justify itself as the policeman of the world, amongst many other material benefits.

You can call it by the jewish label of "holocaust denial", but that's in equal standing with leprechaun and unicorn denial. Santa, the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny are all in reality parents impersonating those characters. You can verify this empirically.