US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Kowani]

Considering that the authorities decided not to bring charges…almost certainly zero.

But of course. This is what happens when you put your own gang in charge of sentencing the badge wearing gang bangers.

“We investigated ourselves and found that while we did wrong, it doesn’t deserve legal retribution.”

[Saiwania]

Well, now I’m angry.

I've replicated that position for myself and could breathe just fine. I'm not sure how she might've died. Although maybe its different if someone has any large portion of body fat on them. I would say it isn't torture by my standards, but neglect- sure.

The officer was crueler than necessary but I also find plenty of blame to be had with the civilian. She had a bad attitude overall, and really should've picked up on how easily angered this officer was and done nothing to give them any excuses for wanting to go on a power trip. He told her to shut up earlier and couldn't be reasoned with. You don't debate with someone like that. If she stayed quiet, spoke only if necessary (and chose words carefully), stayed still in the car and waited, maybe she'd of been left unharmed more and could post bail or navigate through the process to get out of arrest or detainment and be on their way.

[Major-Tom]

Colorado police officer leaves black woman tied upside down for 21 minutes in the back of the patrol car.

Footage released by the Aurora Police Department during a civil service commission appeal hearing on Sept. 29 shows former Officer Levi Huffine “punishing” a Black woman in police custody by leaving her hogtied in a face-down position in the back of a patrol car in the Denver, Colorado, suburb for 21 minutes.

Aurora Police Chief Vanessa Wilson said the car video shows that Huffine “tortured” the woman, adding that she was disgusted by the footage.

Shataean Kelly, 28, was arrested on municipal charges following a fight on Aug. 27, 2019. Bodycam footage shows that Huffine hogtied Kelly’s hands to her feet after he claimed she attempted to escape by trying to open the locks in the back of the cruiser.

Wilson said that the locks in the back of the cruiser do not open and restraining Kelly in that way was unnecessary.

“The hobbling in my opinion was another form of punishment,” said Wilson.

During the drive to the jail, Kelly slipped off the seat with her hands and feet still cuffed together behind her back, and wound up pinned to the floor of the vehicle in a face-down position.

An internal investigation found that Kelly remained in that position for 21 minutes. She pleaded with Huffine for help during the trip.

“Please help me up, officer! I can’t breathe! I can’t breathe, officer!”

Wilson said Kelly could have died from positional asphyxia.

“I’m about to break my neck,” she cried out as she was pinned on her face with her hips above her head. “I don’t want to die like this!”

Huffine never responded to Kelly’s pleas.

At one point, Kelly referred to Huffine as “master,” saying: “I beg you, master,” while pleading with him for help.

“As an African-American female she denigrates herself to the point she actually calls him ‘master.’ To me that is disgusting,” said Wilson.

Charges against Kelly related to her arrest have been dropped.

Officials considered bringing charges against Huffine but decided against it because Kelly was not seriously injured. He was fired by Wilson in February, six months after the incident, after the chief overruled the review board’s recommendation that Huffine receive a 180-hour suspension. At the time, the details surrounding Huffine’s termination were not revealed, and the department did not specify beyond saying he was fired over “severe misconduct.”

The ongoing hearing that commenced after Huffine appealed his termination will result in a decision made by the city’s four-person civil service commission, who will decide whether Huffine should keep his job. Huffine claimed he was too short to be able to see what was happening in the back seat during the drive to the jail.


University of Colorado Denver professor of criminal justice Dr. Paul Taylor testified at the hearing and said it is not a good practice to keep a person hobbled without a seatbelt on. “There is a tendency for people to people either roll off or fall of the seat and onto the floorboard,” he said.

Wilson said Huffine is lucky Kelly did not die, becuse otherwise he would be “in an orange jumpsuit right now.”

Huffine is scheduled to testify again on Oct. 1.

Well, now I’m angry.

AURORA FUCKING PD AGAIN???? Their track record is horrendous, from Elijah McCain, to officers drunk driving and getting off scot free, to pointing guns at innocent Black Children to this....

Holy fucking shit, it's a suburb of 100k people, how is that one department constantly in the news? They may as well just fire that whole DPT, they're not learning.

[Major-Tom]

Well, now I’m angry.

I've replicated that position for myself and could breathe just fine. I'm not sure how she might've died. Although maybe its different if someone has any large portion of body fat on them. I would say it isn't torture by my standards, but neglect- sure.

The officer was crueler than necessary but I also find plenty of blame to be had with the civilian. She had a bad attitude overall, and really should've picked up on how easily angered this officer was and done nothing to give them any excuses for wanting to go on a power trip. He told her to shut up earlier and couldn't be reasoned with. You don't debate with someone like that. If she stayed quiet, spoke only if necessary (and chose words carefully), stayed still in the car and waited, maybe she'd of been left unharmed more and could post bail or navigate through the process to get out of arrest or detainment and be on their way.

"If she stayed quiet, she wouldn't have ended up like that."

Why are you like this? I've heard of victim blaming, but Jesus Christ, this is next level shit.

[Kowani]

Well, now I’m angry.

I've replicated that position for myself and could breathe just fine. I'm not sure how she might've died. Although maybe its different if someone has any large portion of body fat on them. I would say it isn't torture by my standards, but neglect- sure.

The officer was crueler than necessary but I also find plenty of blame to be had with the civilian. She had a bad attitude overall, and really should've picked up on how easily angered this officer was and done nothing to give them any excuses for wanting to go on a power trip. He told her to shut up earlier and couldn't be reasoned with. You don't debate with someone like that. If she stayed quiet, spoke only if necessary (and chose words carefully), stayed still in the car and waited, maybe she'd of been left unharmed more and could post bail or navigate through the process to get out of arrest or detainment and be on their way.

Colorado police officer leaves black woman tied upside down for 21 minutes in the back of the patrol car.

Footage released by the Aurora Police Department during a civil service commission appeal hearing on Sept. 29 shows former Officer Levi Huffine “punishing” a Black woman in police custody by leaving her hogtied in a face-down position in the back of a patrol car in the Denver, Colorado, suburb for 21 minutes.

Aurora Police Chief Vanessa Wilson said the car video shows that Huffine “tortured” the woman, adding that she was disgusted by the footage.

Shataean Kelly, 28, was arrested on municipal charges following a fight on Aug. 27, 2019. Bodycam footage shows that Huffine hogtied Kelly’s hands to her feet after he claimed she attempted to escape by trying to open the locks in the back of the cruiser.

Wilson said that the locks in the back of the cruiser do not open and restraining Kelly in that way was unnecessary.

“The hobbling in my opinion was another form of punishment,” said Wilson.

During the drive to the jail, Kelly slipped off the seat with her hands and feet still cuffed together behind her back, and wound up pinned to the floor of the vehicle in a face-down position.

An internal investigation found that Kelly remained in that position for 21 minutes. She pleaded with Huffine for help during the trip.

“Please help me up, officer! I can’t breathe! I can’t breathe, officer!”

Wilson said Kelly could have died from positional asphyxia.

“I’m about to break my neck,” she cried out as she was pinned on her face with her hips above her head. “I don’t want to die like this!”

Huffine never responded to Kelly’s pleas.

At one point, Kelly referred to Huffine as “master,” saying: “I beg you, master,” while pleading with him for help.

“As an African-American female she denigrates herself to the point she actually calls him ‘master.’ To me that is disgusting,” said Wilson.

Charges against Kelly related to her arrest have been dropped.

Officials considered bringing charges against Huffine but decided against it because Kelly was not seriously injured. He was fired by Wilson in February, six months after the incident, after the chief overruled the review board’s recommendation that Huffine receive a 180-hour suspension. At the time, the details surrounding Huffine’s termination were not revealed, and the department did not specify beyond saying he was fired over “severe misconduct.”

The ongoing hearing that commenced after Huffine appealed his termination will result in a decision made by the city’s four-person civil service commission, who will decide whether Huffine should keep his job. Huffine claimed he was too short to be able to see what was happening in the back seat during the drive to the jail.


University of Colorado Denver professor of criminal justice Dr. Paul Taylor testified at the hearing and said it is not a good practice to keep a person hobbled without a seatbelt on. “There is a tendency for people to people either roll off or fall of the seat and onto the floorboard,” he said.

Wilson said Huffine is lucky Kelly did not die, becuse otherwise he would be “in an orange jumpsuit right now.”

Huffine is scheduled to testify again on Oct. 1.

Well, now I’m angry.

AURORA FUCKING PD AGAIN???? Their track record is horrendous, from Elijah McCain, to officers drunk driving and getting off scot free, to pointing guns at innocent Black Children to this....

Holy fucking shit, it's a suburb of 100k people, how is that one department constantly in the news? They may as well just fire that whole DPT, they're not learning.

I didn’t even realize it was the same department.
That…that is some fucked shit.

[Major-Tom]

I've replicated that position for myself and could breathe just fine. I'm not sure how she might've died. Although maybe its different if someone has any large portion of body fat on them. I would say it isn't torture by my standards, but neglect- sure.

The officer was crueler than necessary but I also find plenty of blame to be had with the civilian. She had a bad attitude overall, and really should've picked up on how easily angered this officer was and done nothing to give them any excuses for wanting to go on a power trip. He told her to shut up earlier and couldn't be reasoned with. You don't debate with someone like that. If she stayed quiet, spoke only if necessary (and chose words carefully), stayed still in the car and waited, maybe she'd of been left unharmed more and could post bail or navigate through the process to get out of arrest or detainment and be on their way.

AURORA FUCKING PD AGAIN???? Their track record is horrendous, from Elijah McCain, to officers drunk driving and getting off scot free, to pointing guns at innocent Black Children to this....

Holy fucking shit, it's a suburb of 100k people, how is that one department constantly in the news? They may as well just fire that whole DPT, they're not learning.

I didn’t even realize it was the same department.
That…that is some fucked shit.

They're always in the news. I mean, granted, so is the NYPD, but NY has 9 million people and Aurora is a sleepy, quiet Colorado suburb. It's baffling, really.

[Telconi]

Colorado police officer leaves black woman tied upside down for 21 minutes in the back of the patrol car.

Footage released by the Aurora Police Department during a civil service commission appeal hearing on Sept. 29 shows former Officer Levi Huffine “punishing” a Black woman in police custody by leaving her hogtied in a face-down position in the back of a patrol car in the Denver, Colorado, suburb for 21 minutes.

Aurora Police Chief Vanessa Wilson said the car video shows that Huffine “tortured” the woman, adding that she was disgusted by the footage.

Shataean Kelly, 28, was arrested on municipal charges following a fight on Aug. 27, 2019. Bodycam footage shows that Huffine hogtied Kelly’s hands to her feet after he claimed she attempted to escape by trying to open the locks in the back of the cruiser.

Wilson said that the locks in the back of the cruiser do not open and restraining Kelly in that way was unnecessary.

“The hobbling in my opinion was another form of punishment,” said Wilson.

During the drive to the jail, Kelly slipped off the seat with her hands and feet still cuffed together behind her back, and wound up pinned to the floor of the vehicle in a face-down position.

An internal investigation found that Kelly remained in that position for 21 minutes. She pleaded with Huffine for help during the trip.

“Please help me up, officer! I can’t breathe! I can’t breathe, officer!”

Wilson said Kelly could have died from positional asphyxia.

“I’m about to break my neck,” she cried out as she was pinned on her face with her hips above her head. “I don’t want to die like this!”

Huffine never responded to Kelly’s pleas.

At one point, Kelly referred to Huffine as “master,” saying: “I beg you, master,” while pleading with him for help.

“As an African-American female she denigrates herself to the point she actually calls him ‘master.’ To me that is disgusting,” said Wilson.

Charges against Kelly related to her arrest have been dropped.

Officials considered bringing charges against Huffine but decided against it because Kelly was not seriously injured. He was fired by Wilson in February, six months after the incident, after the chief overruled the review board’s recommendation that Huffine receive a 180-hour suspension. At the time, the details surrounding Huffine’s termination were not revealed, and the department did not specify beyond saying he was fired over “severe misconduct.”

The ongoing hearing that commenced after Huffine appealed his termination will result in a decision made by the city’s four-person civil service commission, who will decide whether Huffine should keep his job. Huffine claimed he was too short to be able to see what was happening in the back seat during the drive to the jail.


University of Colorado Denver professor of criminal justice Dr. Paul Taylor testified at the hearing and said it is not a good practice to keep a person hobbled without a seatbelt on. “There is a tendency for people to people either roll off or fall of the seat and onto the floorboard,” he said.

Wilson said Huffine is lucky Kelly did not die, becuse otherwise he would be “in an orange jumpsuit right now.”

Huffine is scheduled to testify again on Oct. 1.

Well, now I’m angry.

AURORA FUCKING PD AGAIN???? Their track record is horrendous, from Elijah McCain, to officers drunk driving and getting off scot free, to pointing guns at innocent Black Children to this....

Holy fucking shit, it's a suburb of 100k people, how is that one department constantly in the news? They may as well just fire that whole DPT, they're not learning.

They really should, or at least gut huge parts of it.

The city I live in had an absolute trash police department, when I went to school I was literally told to look for work at the county or state level, or to go to a neighboring town.

We had it all, officer abuse, our two narcotics detectives literally running a meth ring. A school resource officer who compelled sexual favors in exchange for not writing tickets. You name it.

A handful of years ago the County Sheriff's office came in and cleaned house, been much better ever since.

[Kowani]

AURORA FUCKING PD AGAIN???? Their track record is horrendous, from Elijah McCain, to officers drunk driving and getting off scot free, to pointing guns at innocent Black Children to this....

Holy fucking shit, it's a suburb of 100k people, how is that one department constantly in the news? They may as well just fire that whole DPT, they're not learning.

They really should, or at least gut huge parts of it.

The city I live in had an absolute trash police department, when I went to school I was literally told to look for work at the county or state level, or to go to a neighboring town.

We had it all, officer abuse, our two narcotics detectives literally running a meth ring. A school resource officer who compelled sexual favors in exchange for not writing tickets. You name it.

A handful of years ago the County Sheriff's office came in and cleaned house, been much better ever since.

…Well that’s just depressing.

[Major-Tom]

AURORA FUCKING PD AGAIN???? Their track record is horrendous, from Elijah McCain, to officers drunk driving and getting off scot free, to pointing guns at innocent Black Children to this....

Holy fucking shit, it's a suburb of 100k people, how is that one department constantly in the news? They may as well just fire that whole DPT, they're not learning.

They really should, or at least gut huge parts of it.

The city I live in had an absolute trash police department, when I went to school I was literally told to look for work at the county or state level, or to go to a neighboring town.

We had it all, officer abuse, our two narcotics detectives literally running a meth ring. A school resource officer who compelled sexual favors in exchange for not writing tickets. You name it.

A handful of years ago the County Sheriff's office came in and cleaned house, been much better ever since.

That's insane, man. Thank god they actually reformed your town's respective DPT.

[Telconi]

They really should, or at least gut huge parts of it.

The city I live in had an absolute trash police department, when I went to school I was literally told to look for work at the county or state level, or to go to a neighboring town.

We had it all, officer abuse, our two narcotics detectives literally running a meth ring. A school resource officer who compelled sexual favors in exchange for not writing tickets. You name it.

A handful of years ago the County Sheriff's office came in and cleaned house, been much better ever since.

That's insane, man. Thank god they actually reformed your town's respective DPT.

That's shit's a disease, you get corrupt lieutenants in charge of hiring corrupt officers overseen by corrupt sergeants, and the whole place just rots. It's like cancer, you have to get it ALL out or else it just spreads again.

That's why firing the one patrol officer who directly mistreated this woman won't change anything.

[Major-Tom]

That's insane, man. Thank god they actually reformed your town's respective DPT.

That's shit's a disease, you get corrupt lieutenants in charge of hiring corrupt officers overseen by corrupt sergeants, and the whole place just rots. It's like cancer, you have to get it ALL out or else it just spreads again.

That's why firing the one patrol officer who directly mistreated this woman won't change anything.

You're definitely right here. I just wish I understood more the best practices for overhauling and reforming an entire department, and replicating those successes on a national scale. I've seen such a wide spread of dogshit departments, most notably, Phoenix PD. Where do you even start?

[Saiwania]

"If she stayed quiet, she wouldn't have ended up like that." Why are you like this? I've heard of victim blaming, but Jesus Christ, this is next level shit.

I believe that I've been even handed so far as calling it how I see it. The officer and civilian can be faulted for different things. I'd say the officer being fired is good if he consistently shows that he doesn't have the temperament to do the job incident free. If he has more good days than bad, maybe he could be kept with a different penalty such as being being at a desk job but not being on patrol anymore.

I object more to the civilian not being seat belted than in the fact that they got hogtied. Not good if the car is going fast and in the back they're falling and slamming all over everywhere. The hog tie to be honest, shouldn't have been done if that keeps them out of the seatbelt or in it improperly anatomically.

[Telconi]

"If she stayed quiet, she wouldn't have ended up like that." Why are you like this? I've heard of victim blaming, but Jesus Christ, this is next level shit.

I believe that I've been even handed so far as calling it how I see it. The officer and civilian can be faulted for different things. I'd say the officer being fired is good if he consistently shows that he doesn't have the temperament to do the job incident free. If he has more good days than bad, maybe he could be kept with a different penalty such as being being at a desk job but not being on patrol anymore.

I object more to the civilian not being seat belted than in the fact that they got hogtied. Not good if the car is going fast and in the back they're falling and slamming all over everywhere. The hog tie to be honest, shouldn't have been done if that keeps them out of the seatbelt or in it improperly anatomically.

Police cars don't generally have seatbelts in the back. Because being cuffed makes it hard for someone to be properly buckled up, and improper belting is often worse than no belt.

[Saiwania]

Police cars don't generally have seatbelts in the back. Because being cuffed makes it hard for someone to be properly buckled up, and improper belting is often worse than no belt.

If its fine then I'm okay with it. Just that if the car crashes into something or if it is hit by another vehicle, won't the person in the back get more damage?

[Eukaryotic Cells]

I believe that I've been even handed so far as calling it how I see it. The officer and civilian can be faulted for different things. I'd say the officer being fired is good if he consistently shows that he doesn't have the temperament to do the job incident free. If he has more good days than bad, maybe he could be kept with a different penalty such as being being at a desk job but not being on patrol anymore.

I object more to the civilian not being seat belted than in the fact that they got hogtied. Not good if the car is going fast and in the back they're falling and slamming all over everywhere. The hog tie to be honest, shouldn't have been done if that keeps them out of the seatbelt or in it improperly anatomically.

Police cars don't generally have seatbelts in the back. Because being cuffed makes it hard for someone to be properly buckled up, and improper belting is often worse than no belt.

Lots of them don't have cushioning in the back either, to stop people from suffocating from having their face smashed into the seat while they're handcuffed.

[Kowani]

Breonna Taylor update: Attorney General D. Cameron admits he never recommended murder or manslaughter charges to the Grand Jury.

[Vassenor]

Breonna Taylor update: Attorney General D. Cameron admits he never recommended murder or manslaughter charges to the Grand Jury.

Jesus. That's... That's fucking poor man.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Colorado police officer leaves black woman tied upside down for 21 minutes in the back of the patrol car.

Footage released by the Aurora Police Department during a civil service commission appeal hearing on Sept. 29 shows former Officer Levi Huffine “punishing” a Black woman in police custody by leaving her hogtied in a face-down position in the back of a patrol car in the Denver, Colorado, suburb for 21 minutes.

Aurora Police Chief Vanessa Wilson said the car video shows that Huffine “tortured” the woman, adding that she was disgusted by the footage.

Shataean Kelly, 28, was arrested on municipal charges following a fight on Aug. 27, 2019. Bodycam footage shows that Huffine hogtied Kelly’s hands to her feet after he claimed she attempted to escape by trying to open the locks in the back of the cruiser.

Wilson said that the locks in the back of the cruiser do not open and restraining Kelly in that way was unnecessary.

“The hobbling in my opinion was another form of punishment,” said Wilson.

During the drive to the jail, Kelly slipped off the seat with her hands and feet still cuffed together behind her back, and wound up pinned to the floor of the vehicle in a face-down position.

An internal investigation found that Kelly remained in that position for 21 minutes. She pleaded with Huffine for help during the trip.

“Please help me up, officer! I can’t breathe! I can’t breathe, officer!”

Wilson said Kelly could have died from positional asphyxia.

“I’m about to break my neck,” she cried out as she was pinned on her face with her hips above her head. “I don’t want to die like this!”

Huffine never responded to Kelly’s pleas.

At one point, Kelly referred to Huffine as “master,” saying: “I beg you, master,” while pleading with him for help.

“As an African-American female she denigrates herself to the point she actually calls him ‘master.’ To me that is disgusting,” said Wilson.

Charges against Kelly related to her arrest have been dropped.

Officials considered bringing charges against Huffine but decided against it because Kelly was not seriously injured. He was fired by Wilson in February, six months after the incident, after the chief overruled the review board’s recommendation that Huffine receive a 180-hour suspension. At the time, the details surrounding Huffine’s termination were not revealed, and the department did not specify beyond saying he was fired over “severe misconduct.”

The ongoing hearing that commenced after Huffine appealed his termination will result in a decision made by the city’s four-person civil service commission, who will decide whether Huffine should keep his job. Huffine claimed he was too short to be able to see what was happening in the back seat during the drive to the jail.


University of Colorado Denver professor of criminal justice Dr. Paul Taylor testified at the hearing and said it is not a good practice to keep a person hobbled without a seatbelt on. “There is a tendency for people to people either roll off or fall of the seat and onto the floorboard,” he said.

Wilson said Huffine is lucky Kelly did not die, becuse otherwise he would be “in an orange jumpsuit right now.”

Huffine is scheduled to testify again on Oct. 1.

Well, now I’m angry.

That was hard to read. Aurora PD needs to be abolished and every one of its officers needs a state criminal investigation opened on them. Im sure we'd find some real serious shit regarding half of them. This is why people want to defund/abolish the police, because sometimes the cops make a city feel MORE dangerous.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Breonna Taylor update: Attorney General D. Cameron admits he never recommended murder or manslaughter charges to the Grand Jury.

So it was rigged from the start then.

[Genivaria]

I've replicated that position for myself and could breathe just fine. I'm not sure how she might've died. Although maybe its different if someone has any large portion of body fat on them. I would say it isn't torture by my standards, but neglect- sure.

The officer was crueler than necessary but I also find plenty of blame to be had with the civilian. She had a bad attitude overall, and really should've picked up on how easily angered this officer was and done nothing to give them any excuses for wanting to go on a power trip. He told her to shut up earlier and couldn't be reasoned with. You don't debate with someone like that. If she stayed quiet, spoke only if necessary (and chose words carefully), stayed still in the car and waited, maybe she'd of been left unharmed more and could post bail or navigate through the process to get out of arrest or detainment and be on their way.

"If she stayed quiet, she wouldn't have ended up like that."

Why are you like this? I've heard of victim blaming, but Jesus Christ, this is next level shit.

He's a white supremacist, he doesn't care about the lives of black people.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

"If she stayed quiet, she wouldn't have ended up like that."

Why are you like this? I've heard of victim blaming, but Jesus Christ, this is next level shit.

He's a white supremacist, he doesn't care about the lives of black people.

I think this is a major issue that occurs when we make police brutality "a black people issue." What ends up happening is a lot of white people dont care because they assume it won't happen to them so it isn't their problem. It shows how people don't understand probability. On paper being black in America makes it more likely you'll be a victim of police violence. More likely does not mean "being white makes you immune to a cop putting a bullet hole in you." Many white people have been victims of officer involved violence and in most cases nothing was done about it. Maybe if we made more white folks think that they could be the next George Floyd, they would change their tune on this shit.

It's like with covid, how a 72 year old is more at risk of death than a 65 year old. That doesnt mean 65 year olds won't die from it and it doesn't mean they shouldn't take it seriously, so while being a minority may make it more likely you'll have a bad experience with cops, being white isn't some magical spell that protects a cop from turning you inside out. Sai should understand that at day's end, if the police are unaccountable, they're unaccountable. That isn't just gonna affect black people.

[Phoenicaea]

^well, legal methods apart these incidents begin to paint a, how to say, repressive society which also dived into familism. italy is familist, and then notably collusive, instead of being repressive.

so we learn when a society gets depraved or familist, which is as it shows itself a behavior filled with caprice, and it is repressive, scattered shoutings and randomly hangings is what you get.

[Fahran]

Breonna Taylor update: Attorney General D. Cameron admits he never recommended murder or manslaughter charges to the Grand Jury.

It's quite probable that Cameron believed he couldn't obtain a conviction given the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt" in light of a single witness claiming that the officers had announced themselves.

[Kowani]

Breonna Taylor update: Attorney General D. Cameron admits he never recommended murder or manslaughter charges to the Grand Jury.

It's quite probable that Cameron believed he couldn't obtain a conviction given the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt" in light of a single witness claiming that the officers had announced themselves.

"Instead, Cameron said that the case he presented to the grand jury supported the belief that the officers were fully justified in firing their weapons because Breonna’s boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, shot at them first."

Beyond that, manslaughter wouldn't depend on the police announcing themselves, afaik, so even that's not really justified.

[Fahran]

Beyond that, manslaughter wouldn't depend on the police announcing themselves, afaik, so even that's not really justified.

I'm not too familiar with the laws surrounding voluntary manslaughter or the rules regarding police discharging their firearms in Kentucky. That said, if the police announced themselves and a person responded by firing on them, they could argue that they were justified in returning fire potentially. Hence that singular witness presenting a reasonable doubt. And the data on this front aren't very encouraging either. In my mind, it's more a case of local judicial officials not pursuing cases that they can't win than negligence. Long-term solutions to police brutality and unjustified killings are going to need to change laws or, better yet, change the culture of policing and the way in which departments interact with communities.

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