US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Paddy O Fernature]

Minneapolis council members launch move to reform public safety without a referendum. Turns out a unanimous Council and Mayor can change the city charter without a vote. This is not over.

Adjusting your pants is punishable by death.


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Walking down the street with an automatic rifle having just shot three people however gets you a pass. If you're white that is.

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[Ifreann]

Walking down the street with an automatic rifle having just shot three people however gets you a pass. If you're white that is.

Yugoslavia and Northern Ireland had some hard core events.

I mean you're talking about Automatic rifles so I have to assume you're either talking about the Yugoslav wars or the Troubles. There's no event in recent American History of a White Person shooting three people with an automatic rifle.

What's it called when the gun's operation is set up to load a new round after one is fired, without the shooter having to do anything? When the next round gets loaded...something-something-ly? I'm sure there's a word for that.

[The Two Jerseys]

Yugoslavia and Northern Ireland had some hard core events.

I mean you're talking about Automatic rifles so I have to assume you're either talking about the Yugoslav wars or the Troubles. There's no event in recent American History of a White Person shooting three people with an automatic rifle.

What's it called when the gun's operation is set up to load a new round after one is fired, without the shooter having to do anything? When the next round gets loaded...something-something-ly? I'm sure there's a word for that.

You mean "semi-automatic"?

Which is not the same thing as "automatic".

[Hispida]

Yugoslavia and Northern Ireland had some hard core events.

I mean you're talking about Automatic rifles so I have to assume you're either talking about the Yugoslav wars or the Troubles. There's no event in recent American History of a White Person shooting three people with an automatic rifle.

What's it called when the gun's operation is set up to load a new round after one is fired, without the shooter having to do anything? When the next round gets loaded...something-something-ly? I'm sure there's a word for that.

self-loading.

[Ifreann]

What's it called when the gun's operation is set up to load a new round after one is fired, without the shooter having to do anything? When the next round gets loaded...something-something-ly? I'm sure there's a word for that.

You mean "semi-automatic"?

Which is not the same thing as "automatic".

Like how an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar?

[Paddy O Fernature]

You mean "semi-automatic"?

Which is not the same thing as "automatic".

Like how an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar?

Didn't know there was a competition going on for "Most Ignorant Statement" today.

Semi Automatic isn't Automatic and you damned well know it. Stop playing dumb.

[Ors Might]

You mean "semi-automatic"?

Which is not the same thing as "automatic".

Like how an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar?

If someone tried hooking up an acoustic guitar to an amp, I'd probably think they don't know that much about acoustic guitars. In fact, I wouldn't trust their opinions on the subject at all.

[Holy Tedalonia]

You mean "semi-automatic"?

Which is not the same thing as "automatic".

Like how an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar?

semi-automatic is when the gun automatically loads the shell in and primes the shot, but requires the trigger finger to be pulled after every shot. Almost any modern gun other than a revolver and automatic weapons function like this.

automatic is when the automatically gun loads the shell in, primes the shot, and fires while the trigger is held down.

Technically you could say double action revolvers are semi-automatic since the hammer cocks back into position. But I'd doubt many people would take you seriously.

[Ifreann]

Like how an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar?

Didn't know there was a competition going on for "Most Ignorant Statement" today.

Semi Automatic isn't Automatic and you damned well know it. Stop playing dumb.

"[Adjective] [noun] isn't [noun]"
Sure, man. And that box with the bullets in it is a clip, not a magazine.

[Ifreann]

Like how an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar?

If someone tried hooking up an acoustic guitar to an amp, I'd probably think they don't know that much about acoustic guitars. In fact, I wouldn't trust their opinions on the subject at all.

Sure, but if someone tried to tell me that an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar I'd expect either an interesting explanation of some obscure technicality of guitars, or that the person I was talking to was full of shit.

[Ors Might]

If someone tried hooking up an acoustic guitar to an amp, I'd probably think they don't know that much about acoustic guitars. In fact, I wouldn't trust their opinions on the subject at all.

Sure, but if someone tried to tell me that an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar I'd expect either an interesting explanation of some obscure technicality of guitars, or that the person I was talking to was full of shit.

Yeah but no one said a semi-automatic gun wasn't a gun. A more apt comparison is someone saying an acoustic guitar isn't an electric guitar and you come in complaining that they both have guitar in the name so they must be the same thing, despite them being pretty different instruments.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Sure, but if someone tried to tell me that an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar I'd expect either an interesting explanation of some obscure technicality of guitars, or that the person I was talking to was full of shit.

Yeah but no one said a semi-automatic gun wasn't a gun. A more apt comparison is someone saying an acoustic guitar isn't an electric guitar and you come in complaining that they both have guitar in the name so they must be the same thing, despite them being pretty different instruments.

Infrean be like: "reject automatics, return to single action"

Atleast until he finds single actions just as disgusting as knives in Britain.

[American Legionaries]

Didn't know there was a competition going on for "Most Ignorant Statement" today.

Semi Automatic isn't Automatic and you damned well know it. Stop playing dumb.

"[Adjective] [noun] isn't [noun]"
Sure, man. And that box with the bullets in it is a clip, not a magazine.

"Automatic" is an adjective too.

[Hispida]

You mean "semi-automatic"?

Which is not the same thing as "automatic".

Like how an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar?

this is one of the stupidest things i've ever seen on this God forsaken website

[Vassenor]

Like how an acoustic guitar isn't a guitar?

this is one of the stupidest things i've ever seen on this God forsaken website

I mean if we're not allowed to call an automatic rifle an automatic rifle because it only fires one round with each pull of the trigger then loads the next round automatically then by that logic we shouldn't call an accoustic guitar a guitar becuase it doesn't have the guts of an electric guitar in it.

[Hispida]

this is one of the stupidest things i've ever seen on this God forsaken website

I mean if we're not allowed to call an automatic rifle an automatic rifle because it only fires one round with each pull of the trigger then loads the next round automatically then by that logic we shouldn't call an accoustic guitar a guitar becuase it doesn't have the guts of an electric guitar in it.

...that's not what "automatic" means
that's a self-loading mechanism which is present in most modern guns

an automatic rifle can fire on full auto. it fires continuously until the trigger is released.
a semi-automatic rifle can fire on semi auto. it fires only one time when the trigger is pulled and will not continue to shoot if it's held down.

that's it. that's the difference.

[Ors Might]

this is one of the stupidest things i've ever seen on this God forsaken website

I mean if we're not allowed to call an automatic rifle an automatic rifle because it only fires one round with each pull of the trigger then loads the next round automatically then by that logic we shouldn't call an accoustic guitar a guitar becuase it doesn't have the guts of an electric guitar in it.

But it isn't an automatic rifle. This isn't a subject of debate, you're just objectively incorrect.

[Vassenor]

I mean if we're not allowed to call an automatic rifle an automatic rifle because it only fires one round with each pull of the trigger then loads the next round automatically then by that logic we shouldn't call an accoustic guitar a guitar becuase it doesn't have the guts of an electric guitar in it.

...that's not what "automatic" means
that's a self-loading mechanism which is present in most modern guns

an automatic rifle can fire on full auto. it fires continuously until the trigger is released.
a semi-automatic rifle can fire on semi auto. it fires only one time when the trigger is pulled and will not continue to shoot if it's held down.

that's it. that's the difference.

An automatic firearm is an auto-loading firearm that continuously chambers and fires rounds when the trigger mechanism is actuated. The action of an automatic firearm is capable of harvesting the excess energy released from a previous discharge to feed a new ammunition round into the chamber, and then ignite the propellant and discharge the projectile (either bullet, shots or slug) by delivering a hammer/striker impact on the primer.

Doesn't say it has to be fully automatic.

[Hispida]

...that's not what "automatic" means
that's a self-loading mechanism which is present in most modern guns

an automatic rifle can fire on full auto. it fires continuously until the trigger is released.
a semi-automatic rifle can fire on semi auto. it fires only one time when the trigger is pulled and will not continue to shoot if it's held down.

that's it. that's the difference.

An automatic firearm is an auto-loading firearm that continuously chambers and fires rounds when the trigger mechanism is actuated. The action of an automatic firearm is capable of harvesting the excess energy released from a previous discharge to feed a new ammunition round into the chamber, and then ignite the propellant and discharge the projectile (either bullet, shots or slug) by delivering a hammer/striker impact on the primer.

Doesn't say it has to be fully automatic.

it
literally
fucking
does

An automatic firearm is an auto-loading firearm that continuously chambers and fires rounds when the trigger mechanism is actuated.

"continuously chambers and fires rounds when the trigger mechanism is actuated"

or, in plain english, "when the trigger is held down it will keep firing"

[Ors Might]

...that's not what "automatic" means
that's a self-loading mechanism which is present in most modern guns

an automatic rifle can fire on full auto. it fires continuously until the trigger is released.
a semi-automatic rifle can fire on semi auto. it fires only one time when the trigger is pulled and will not continue to shoot if it's held down.

that's it. that's the difference.

An automatic firearm is an auto-loading firearm that continuously chambers and fires rounds when the trigger mechanism is actuated. The action of an automatic firearm is capable of harvesting the excess energy released from a previous discharge to feed a new ammunition round into the chamber, and then ignite the propellant and discharge the projectile (either bullet, shots or slug) by delivering a hammer/striker impact on the primer.

Doesn't say it has to be fully automatic.

It literally does, jesus christ.

[Holy Tedalonia]

this is one of the stupidest things i've ever seen on this God forsaken website

I mean if we're not allowed to call an automatic rifle an automatic rifle because it only fires one round with each pull of the trigger then loads the next round automatically then by that logic we shouldn't call an accoustic guitar a guitar becuase it doesn't have the guts of an electric guitar in it.

No, you can call a acoustic guitar a guitar. Because guitar is the object, like a rifle. automatic and semi-automatic are functionalities. Describing how the mechanisms inside the machine work. This is not a difficult concept to grasp. Your intentionally trying to make it more complicated then it actually is.

[Greater Cesnica]

...that's not what "automatic" means
that's a self-loading mechanism which is present in most modern guns

an automatic rifle can fire on full auto. it fires continuously until the trigger is released.
a semi-automatic rifle can fire on semi auto. it fires only one time when the trigger is pulled and will not continue to shoot if it's held down.

that's it. that's the difference.

An automatic firearm is an auto-loading firearm that continuously chambers and fires rounds when the trigger mechanism is actuated. The action of an automatic firearm is capable of harvesting the excess energy released from a previous discharge to feed a new ammunition round into the chamber, and then ignite the propellant and discharge the projectile (either bullet, shots or slug) by delivering a hammer/striker impact on the primer.

Doesn't say it has to be fully automatic.

Are you serious right now? How utterly ignorant can you be?

[The Chuck]

...that's not what "automatic" means
that's a self-loading mechanism which is present in most modern guns

an automatic rifle can fire on full auto. it fires continuously until the trigger is released.
a semi-automatic rifle can fire on semi auto. it fires only one time when the trigger is pulled and will not continue to shoot if it's held down.

that's it. that's the difference.

An automatic firearm is an auto-loading firearm that continuously chambers and fires rounds when the trigger mechanism is actuated. The action of an automatic firearm is capable of harvesting the excess energy released from a previous discharge to feed a new ammunition round into the chamber, and then ignite the propellant and discharge the projectile (either bullet, shots or slug) by delivering a hammer/striker impact on the primer.

Doesn't say it has to be fully automatic.

Residential NSG Gun nut and firearms advocate here. I wouldn't expect anything less from one of NSG's most notorious Tweet-As-Fact users to simply use the Wikipedia definition of an automatic firearm. Instead, I would recommend that everyone engaging in good faith arguments should attempt to go out of their way to use the actual legal definition of a machine gun as defined by the federal government.

The National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. 5845(b) defines “machine gun” to include any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a weapon to shoot automatically more than one shot,without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

Source: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, & Explosives Website

Remember, just because someone likes to tread the line doesn't mean they should be allowed to spout misinformation.

[Vassenor]

Doesn't say it has to be fully automatic.

Residential NSG Gun nut and firearms advocate here. I wouldn't expect anything less from one of NSG's most notorious Tweet-As-Fact users to simply use the Wikipedia definition of an automatic firearm. Instead, I would recommend that everyone engaging in good faith arguments should attempt to go out of their way to use the actual legal definition of a machine gun as defined by the federal government.

The National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. 5845(b) defines “machine gun” to include any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a weapon to shoot automatically more than one shot,without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

Source: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, & Explosives Website

Remember, just because someone likes to tread the line doesn't mean they should be allowed to spout misinformation.

But we're talking about rifles, not machine guns.

But if it gets you out of having to explain why Kyle Rittenhouse was able to walk up to police with a loaded automatic rifle without being shot or made to eat the pavement when a black guy in the same situation would've been double-tapped, so be it.

[Hispida]

Residential NSG Gun nut and firearms advocate here. I wouldn't expect anything less from one of NSG's most notorious Tweet-As-Fact users to simply use the Wikipedia definition of an automatic firearm. Instead, I would recommend that everyone engaging in good faith arguments should attempt to go out of their way to use the actual legal definition of a machine gun as defined by the federal government.

The National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. 5845(b) defines “machine gun” to include any combination of parts designed and intended for use in converting a weapon to shoot automatically more than one shot,without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

Source: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, & Explosives Website

Remember, just because someone likes to tread the line doesn't mean they should be allowed to spout misinformation.

But we're talking about rifles, not machine guns.

But if it gets you out of having to explain why Kyle Rittenhouse was able to walk up to police with a loaded automatic rifle without being shot or made to eat the pavement when a black guy in the same situation would've been double-tapped, so be it.

ar-15s aren't automatic lmao