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Big Jim P wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Huh?

It’s really not that hard to put up drywall. It just takes a small bit of practice

Most people don't realize just how easy many basic tasks are. Anything short of electricity, dead easy.

Thermodolia wrote:

Big Jim P wrote:
Most people don't realize just how easy many basic tasks are. Anything short of electricity, dead easy.

Even that isn’t too hard. It’s not impossible to wire your own outlets or fans

Thermodolia wrote:

Big Jim P wrote:
Most people don't realize just how easy many basic tasks are. Anything short of electricity, dead easy.

Even that isn’t too hard. It’s not impossible to wire your own outlets or fans

The Black Forrest wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Even that isn’t too hard. It’s not impossible to wire your own outlets or fans

Wellll it is possible. Doing it right is another question. My house made a little too much use of what is pejoratively called okie rope. During a review of the outlets; found one case where a power line was accidentally cut and somebody striped and black taped the pieces back together. That or somebodies idea to extend wiring.

The Black Forrest wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Even that isn’t too hard. It’s not impossible to wire your own outlets or fans

Wellll it is possible. Doing it right is another question. My house made a little too much use of what is pejoratively called okie rope. During a review of the outlets; found one case where a power line was accidentally cut and somebody striped and black taped the pieces back together. That or somebodies idea to extend wiring.

Vassenor wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Even that isn’t too hard. It’s not impossible to wire your own outlets or fans

Just because I built my computer without it blowing up does not mean I can wire a house.

Vassenor wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Wellll it is possible. Doing it right is another question. My house made a little too much use of what is pejoratively called okie rope. During a review of the outlets; found one case where a power line was accidentally cut and somebody striped and black taped the pieces back together. That or somebodies idea to extend wiring.

See also all the people who think that suicide cords are a good idea. And that's just when they're setting up their Christmas lights. Imagine what would happen if they actually tried to do their main wiring themselves.

Thermodolia wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
See also all the people who think that suicide cords are a good idea. And that's just when they're setting up their Christmas lights. Imagine what would happen if they actually tried to do their main wiring themselves.

Suicide cords? Must be something British because I’ve never heard of that

Vassenor wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Suicide cords? Must be something British because I’ve never heard of that

Nope, it's definitely an American thing. It's what happens when someone decides they need an extension cord with two male ends.

Vassenor wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Wellll it is possible. Doing it right is another question. My house made a little too much use of what is pejoratively called okie rope. During a review of the outlets; found one case where a power line was accidentally cut and somebody striped and black taped the pieces back together. That or somebodies idea to extend wiring.

See also all the people who think that suicide cords are a good idea. And that's just when they're setting up their Christmas lights. Imagine what would happen if they actually tried to do their main wiring themselves.

CoraSpia wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
See also all the people who think that suicide cords are a good idea. And that's just when they're setting up their Christmas lights. Imagine what would happen if they actually tried to do their main wiring themselves.

Wait, those things are illegal? I am sure there is an American extention cord with two male ends in storage in my house, we found it while looking through what's generally refered to as 'the stuff.' No idea what my dad used it for over in the states though, might even have come with our UPS.

Vassenor wrote:

CoraSpia wrote:Wait, those things are illegal? I am sure there is an American extention cord with two male ends in storage in my house, we found it while looking through what's generally refered to as 'the stuff.' No idea what my dad used it for over in the states though, might even have come with our UPS.

I didn't say illegal, I said they were a stupid idea.

CoraSpia wrote:

Vassenor wrote:
I didn't say illegal, I said they were a stupid idea.

Oh very, and I've no idea what it was used for (if it was even used.) A bit of digging suggests they have some sort of use with generators though.

Lanoraie II wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10408159/Florida-cop-seen-video-grabbing-fellow-police-officer-throat-officer-placed-leave.html?ito=chromelessDM_0

TL;DR Male sergeant was brutalizing cuffed suspect, so female officer yanked him off of the suspect. To which he turned around and choked her out while slamming her against a cruiser.

Thoughts on this? There's so much I could say about it from start to finish but I'm in too much shock to even formulate a proper sentence right now.

Edit: I will say one thing (of many, many, many things I could say), is that this is what scares me about being a female LEO. I've heard some pretty big horror stories. She tried to do the right thing and got physically attacked by a superior in front of multiple other officers who did nothing. Absolutely disgusting.

Thermodolia wrote:

Big Jim P wrote:
Most people don't realize just how easy many basic tasks are. Anything short of electricity, dead easy.

Even that isn’t too hard. It’s not impossible to wire your own outlets or fans

Big Bad Blue wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Even that isn’t too hard. It’s not impossible to wire your own outlets or fans

I've found it's 1000 percent easier to pay someone else to do pretty much anything around the house.

Big Bad Blue wrote:

Thermodolia wrote:Even that isn’t too hard. It’s not impossible to wire your own outlets or fans

I've found it's 1000 percent easier to pay someone else to do pretty much anything around the house.

Thermodolia wrote:

Big Jim P wrote:
Most people don't realize just how easy many basic tasks are. Anything short of electricity, dead easy.

Even that isn’t too hard. It’s not impossible to wire your own outlets or fans

Necroghastia wrote:

Lanoraie II wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10408159/Florida-cop-seen-video-grabbing-fellow-police-officer-throat-officer-placed-leave.html?ito=chromelessDM_0

TL;DR Male sergeant was brutalizing cuffed suspect, so female officer yanked him off of the suspect. To which he turned around and choked her out while slamming her against a cruiser.

Thoughts on this? There's so much I could say about it from start to finish but I'm in too much shock to even formulate a proper sentence right now.

Edit: I will say one thing (of many, many, many things I could say), is that this is what scares me about being a female LEO. I've heard some pretty big horror stories. She tried to do the right thing and got physically attacked by a superior in front of multiple other officers who did nothing. Absolutely disgusting.

Also, it's been 3 months and apparently all that's happened is he was put on desk duty.

Lanoraie II wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10408159/Florida-cop-seen-video-grabbing-fellow-police-officer-throat-officer-placed-leave.html?ito=chromelessDM_0

TL;DR Male sergeant was brutalizing cuffed suspect, so female officer yanked him off of the suspect. To which he turned around and choked her out while slamming her against a cruiser.

Thoughts on this? There's so much I could say about it from start to finish but I'm in too much shock to even formulate a proper sentence right now.

Edit: I will say one thing (of many, many, many things I could say), is that this is what scares me about being a female LEO. I've heard some pretty big horror stories. She tried to do the right thing and got physically attacked by a superior in front of multiple other officers who did nothing. Absolutely disgusting.

I saw Gregory Kwiatkowski punching Neal Mack in the face,” she says. “Gregory Kwiatkowski was the officer. Neal Mack was handcuffed in the front, which is not protocol. Gregory Kwiatkowski was punching him in the face.”

Once Mack was brought out of the house and into the yard, Horne says Kwiatkowski started choking him.

“When he didn't stop, that's when I grabbed his arm from around Neal Mack's neck,” she says. “That's when he came up out of the crouched position and punched me in the face.”

When Horne, a 19-year veteran of the Buffalo Police Department, reported the incident to her lieutenant, she says the lieutenant said the situation had to be investigated, despite proof that Horne was injured. She says she had to have major dental work done, which included replacing a bridge in her mouth and mending a rotator cuff tear.

But unlike Floyd’s case, there was no video footage of what transpired. Kwiatkowski and other officers who were on the scene claim Horne had actually endangered the arresting officer while he was struggling.

The police department brought disciplinary charges against Horne then fired her months before she would have collected a pension. Horne has been fighting for more than a decade to get her pension.

In 2009, Kwiatkowski was sentenced to four months in prison for excessive force in a separate incident. He and two other officers pulled over four teenagers. Kwiatkowski reportedly rammed the teens, one by one, headfirst into a police car as they were handcuffed.

Mack, who was the suspect during the arrest where Horne intervened, says Horne saved his life by intervening.

Lanoraie II wrote:

Necroghastia wrote:Also, it's been 3 months and apparently all that's happened is he was put on desk duty.

Sickening. First he's being unprofessional (at best) with the suspect, then he straight up commits battery against a fellow officer. He's a danger to himself and others. His badge should have been removed IMMEDIATELY.

Page wrote:

Lanoraie II wrote:
Sickening. First he's being unprofessional (at best) with the suspect, then he straight up commits battery against a fellow officer. He's a danger to himself and others. His badge should have been removed IMMEDIATELY.

Alternatively, had she shot him, I would actually call that a justified police shooting.

Gravlen wrote:

Lanoraie II wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10408159/Florida-cop-seen-video-grabbing-fellow-police-officer-throat-officer-placed-leave.html?ito=chromelessDM_0

TL;DR Male sergeant was brutalizing cuffed suspect, so female officer yanked him off of the suspect. To which he turned around and choked her out while slamming her against a cruiser.

Thoughts on this? There's so much I could say about it from start to finish but I'm in too much shock to even formulate a proper sentence right now.

Edit: I will say one thing (of many, many, many things I could say), is that this is what scares me about being a female LEO. I've heard some pretty big horror stories. She tried to do the right thing and got physically attacked by a superior in front of multiple other officers who did nothing. Absolutely disgusting.

It's not just about the laughably poor police training many officers get, but it's also about the caliber of people being hired as police officers combined with the culture of impunity and the "Blue Wall of Silence" attitude which permeates police departments all over the US.

When Buffalo police officer Cariol Horne tried to do the right thing and stop a fellow officer from brutalizing his detainee, she was rewarded and celebrated...

Just kidding.

She was, of course, fired and denied a pension.

I saw Gregory Kwiatkowski punching Neal Mack in the face,” she says. “Gregory Kwiatkowski was the officer. Neal Mack was handcuffed in the front, which is not protocol. Gregory Kwiatkowski was punching him in the face.”

Once Mack was brought out of the house and into the yard, Horne says Kwiatkowski started choking him.

“When he didn't stop, that's when I grabbed his arm from around Neal Mack's neck,” she says. “That's when he came up out of the crouched position and punched me in the face.”

When Horne, a 19-year veteran of the Buffalo Police Department, reported the incident to her lieutenant, she says the lieutenant said the situation had to be investigated, despite proof that Horne was injured. She says she had to have major dental work done, which included replacing a bridge in her mouth and mending a rotator cuff tear.

But unlike Floyd’s case, there was no video footage of what transpired. Kwiatkowski and other officers who were on the scene claim Horne had actually endangered the arresting officer while he was struggling.

The police department brought disciplinary charges against Horne then fired her months before she would have collected a pension. Horne has been fighting for more than a decade to get her pension.

In 2009, Kwiatkowski was sentenced to four months in prison for excessive force in a separate incident. He and two other officers pulled over four teenagers. Kwiatkowski reportedly rammed the teens, one by one, headfirst into a police car as they were handcuffed.

Mack, who was the suspect during the arrest where Horne intervened, says Horne saved his life by intervening.

Kowani wrote:After Philly cops heard gunshots, they fired at the wrong car, into a crowd (where the shooters were not), and killed an 8 year old girl

The teenage boys who fired the shots and killed nobody are being charged with murder

Galloism wrote:

Big Bad Blue wrote:
I've found it's 1000 percent easier to pay someone else to do pretty much anything around the house.

Boy that privilege must be nice.