US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Sovijet Socialist Republics]

Based on what?

She sat around consumed with sadness afterwards.

Based on the fact that a handgun and a taser carried on opposite sides of the body are not things easily mixed up.

That doesn't prove murder. Just stupidity or muscle memory.

She was a veteran cop. She wasn't stupid. If she wanted to shoot somebody dead, she'd probably provoke a confrontation.

[Ifreann]

Based on the fact that a handgun and a taser carried on opposite sides of the body are not things easily mixed up.

That doesn't prove murder. Just stupidity or muscle memory.

She was a veteran cop. She wasn't stupid. If she wanted to shoot somebody dead, she'd probably provoke a confrontation.

She was a veteran cop, and not stupid. If she wanted to disable somebody with a taser, she'd probably have drawn her taser, and not her gun.

[Senkaku]

Based on the fact that a handgun and a taser carried on opposite sides of the body are not things easily mixed up.

That doesn't prove murder. Just stupidity or muscle memory.

This is not how “muscle memory” fucking works Jesus Christ lmao

[American Legionaries]

Based on what?

She sat around consumed with sadness afterwards.

Based on the fact that a handgun and a taser carried on opposite sides of the body are not things easily mixed up.

This, muscle memory makes this mix up harder, not easier. They're entirely different mechanisms of both gross muscle movement and fine muscle movement for a reason.

Edit: for reference they're trained with different release mechanisms, if I had tried to draw my gun with my TASER movement, I wouldn't have even cleared the holster.

[Galloism]

I don't know whether a custodial sentence is appropriate. There was no intent to murder, she evidently didn't realize that she was doing something dangerous, and she feels remorse.

Some form of punishment is definitely required.

Somebody piss in your cornflakes this morning?

The simplest explanation is not that she accidentally reached to the wrong side of her body and picked up a heavier, different-colored weapon, or that she went into some sort of flow state trance from her years of intensive training and acted on instinct before her conscious mind could override her with her actual desire to use a taser. It’s that she wanted to see if she could get away with shooting a guy and then offering some lame excuse afterwards, and had maybe come to feel remorseful about it.

Well there’s a theory with absolutely no basis that was not advanced by either the prosecution or the defense.

[Kowani]

LAPD accidentally shoots and kills 14-year old girl during robbery

Los Angeles police fatally shot a 14-year-old girl who was inside a clothing store dressing room Thursday as they fired at a suspect who had assaulted a woman earlier, authorities said.

Police also killed the male suspect, authorities said. He and the girl have not been named. The woman who had been assaulted was taken to the hospital with moderate to serious injuries.

The shots were fired around 11:45 a.m. at a Burlington store — part of a chain formerly known as Burlington Coat Factory — in the North Hollywood area of the San Fernando Valley.

Police initially responded to reports of a person being assaulted with a deadly weapon as well as reports of shots being fired, said Los Angeles police Capt. Stacy Spell at a news conference. Spell said officers opened fire when they saw the suspect assaulting another person. The suspect was struck by the officers’ bullets and killed, Spell said.

One of the bullets went through a dressing room wall and struck the 14-year-old girl, according to LAPD Assistant Chief Dominic Choi. Officers later found her inside.

“You can’t see into the dressing rooms and it just looks like a straight wall of drywall,” Choi said at a second news conference.

Investigators do not yet know whether the teenager was in the dressing room before the violence began or ran in there to hide, he said.

The California Department of Justice was investigating the shooting, Attorney General Rob Bonta said.

Choi said authorities do not yet know the man’s motive or whether he knew the woman he initially assaulted in the store.

Los Angeles Fire Department spokesperson Nicholas Prange said that woman had moderate to serious injuries and was transported to a hospital. It wasn’t immediately known if she’d been shot but Choi said she had injuries to her head, arms and face.

Police found a heavy metal cable lock near the suspect that they say may have been used in that assault.

Spell said the injured woman was the victim in the first assault report. It was not immediately clear what weapon was involved in that assault.

He added that police had received calls about the suspect acting erratically before the incident.

Imelda Garcia said her sister works in the store and was on break when she heard gunshots and everyone started running. Garcia said she spoke to her sister on the phone and that she’s OK but sounded “really nervous.”

Police escorted people out of the store nearly two hours after the shooting.

[Ifreann]

LAPD accidentally shoots and kills 14-year old girl during robbery

Los Angeles police fatally shot a 14-year-old girl who was inside a clothing store dressing room Thursday as they fired at a suspect who had assaulted a woman earlier, authorities said.

Police also killed the male suspect, authorities said. He and the girl have not been named. The woman who had been assaulted was taken to the hospital with moderate to serious injuries.

The shots were fired around 11:45 a.m. at a Burlington store — part of a chain formerly known as Burlington Coat Factory — in the North Hollywood area of the San Fernando Valley.

Police initially responded to reports of a person being assaulted with a deadly weapon as well as reports of shots being fired, said Los Angeles police Capt. Stacy Spell at a news conference. Spell said officers opened fire when they saw the suspect assaulting another person. The suspect was struck by the officers’ bullets and killed, Spell said.

One of the bullets went through a dressing room wall and struck the 14-year-old girl, according to LAPD Assistant Chief Dominic Choi. Officers later found her inside.

“You can’t see into the dressing rooms and it just looks like a straight wall of drywall,” Choi said at a second news conference.

Investigators do not yet know whether the teenager was in the dressing room before the violence began or ran in there to hide, he said.

The California Department of Justice was investigating the shooting, Attorney General Rob Bonta said.

Choi said authorities do not yet know the man’s motive or whether he knew the woman he initially assaulted in the store.

Los Angeles Fire Department spokesperson Nicholas Prange said that woman had moderate to serious injuries and was transported to a hospital. It wasn’t immediately known if she’d been shot but Choi said she had injuries to her head, arms and face.

Police found a heavy metal cable lock near the suspect that they say may have been used in that assault.

Spell said the injured woman was the victim in the first assault report. It was not immediately clear what weapon was involved in that assault.

He added that police had received calls about the suspect acting erratically before the incident.

Imelda Garcia said her sister works in the store and was on break when she heard gunshots and everyone started running. Garcia said she spoke to her sister on the phone and that she’s OK but sounded “really nervous.”

Police escorted people out of the store nearly two hours after the shooting.

Hey look, there's more cops doing things they should, in theory, know better than to do.

[Big Bad Blue]

The simplest explanation is not that she accidentally reached to the wrong side of her body and picked up a heavier, different-colored weapon, or that she went into some sort of flow state trance from her years of intensive training and acted on instinct before her conscious mind could override her with her actual desire to use a taser. It’s that she wanted to see if she could get away with shooting a guy and then offering some lame excuse afterwards, and had maybe come to feel remorseful about it.

Do people really believe that she had concocted some master plan to just murder someone?

I don't believe a veteran cop confused a pistol with a Taser. Unless she was so frightened over her confrontation with a young Black man that her mind wasn't even operating. In which case the mistake she made was becoming a cop in the first place.

I also don't believe her public breakdown during testimony when she never shed a public tear over the verdict. Charlemagne Tha God calls that crackerdile tears.

I do believe she should be treated exactly the same as anyone else facing a similar conviction in the legal system. That means held without bail before sentencing and a 6-8 1/2 year sentence on the man one charge, which will run concurrently with the man two sentence (in Minnesota sentences for crimes growing out of the same act are served concurrently).

I also believe there are going to be a damn sight fewer cop killings of unarmed Black men in the state of Minnesota and possibly others as well going forward. And that's A Good Thing.

I also find it interesting that many of the people who were all for the jury verdict in the Rittenhouse trial seem to think the jury verdict in the Potter and Chauvin trials were travesties of justice. If you want to live in a country under the rule of law you don't get to pick which jury verdicts -- or election results -- you want to abide by and those you don't.

[Prima Scriptura]

Yeah, I have no sympathy for her.

Taser and gun are carried on opposite sides of the body for a reason, and you should be training to draw both in different scenario based training.

I sort of wonder if training is actually the problem.

I know that sounds dumb, but hear me out: If I were to pull a Glock from my belt, expecting a Taser, I would be dumbfounded. "this doesn't feel right. Where's the safety? why isn't it yellow?" It would take me a second to figure out what was going on.

My only explanation for how that doesn't happen, is if you've got drawing and firing down to such a degree that it's purely muscle memory, and requires no conscious thought at all. Just mindless repetition of something you've done a million times. And you can do it without even looking.

I don't know what to do with that thought. I'm not sure it would be productive to tell police officers to practice less.

Training for police officers in Minnesota is piss poor. And I am one of the very few pro-police people here on NS.

[Hemakral]

Training for police officers in Minnesota is piss poor. And I am one of the very few pro-police people here on NS.

May I ask why you enjoy the taste of rubber?

[American Legionaries]

Training for police officers in Minnesota is piss poor. And I am one of the very few pro-police people here on NS.

May I ask why you enjoy the taste of rubber?

Everyone enjoys some sole food now and again, especially when it's being served to neighbors they dislike.

[Galloism]

Yeah, I have no sympathy for her.

Taser and gun are carried on opposite sides of the body for a reason, and you should be training to draw both in different scenario based training.

I sort of wonder if training is actually the problem.

I know that sounds dumb, but hear me out: If I were to pull a Glock from my belt, expecting a Taser, I would be dumbfounded. "this doesn't feel right. Where's the safety? why isn't it yellow?" It would take me a second to figure out what was going on.

My only explanation for how that doesn't happen, is if you've got drawing and firing down to such a degree that it's purely muscle memory, and requires no conscious thought at all. Just mindless repetition of something you've done a million times. And you can do it without even looking.

I don't know what to do with that thought. I'm not sure it would be productive to tell police officers to practice less.

So... here's something I learned. Might be relevant. Might not. You decide.

Did you know as a flight instructor we are specifically instructed to pull right and left engines on multi-students at random and consciously keep track so as not to favor one side over the other in a disproportionate manner?

Because flight instructors were doing that. Most multiengine piston aircraft the left engine is the "critical" engine. The physics are slightly complicated as to why, but the basic idea is the descending blade produces more thrust than the ascending blade. Most engines are right turning, so the center of thrust on the right engine is further out than the center of thrust on the left engine. It's therefore harder to control after a left engine failure than a right.

Now there's exceptions. In the piper seminole, there's no critical engine because it uses counter-rotating engines - left one turns right, right one turns left. The Osprey on the other hand has two critical engines because the right one turns right and the left one turns left (there must be a reason for this, but no one has ever explained it to me).

Anyway, reason we were instructed to make sure we were doing this randomly and not favoring the left engine is because some instructors were repeatedly failing the left engine so often that when pilots they trained lost a RIGHT engine they shut down the wrong engine - reflexively shutting down the left engine even when it was the only engine they had.

If (and this is a big if, I have no understanding of her training) she only had scenario based training where she used her gun and not scenario based training where she used her taser, she might have done so reflexively as that is what had been drilled into her. But if that's the case, it means the training is horrible, and everyone should rethink it.

[Yankee Rike]

Early American law enforcement can be traced to the Germanic system of local government developed in Medieval England and frontier lawmen of the Scottish borders and Northern Ireland.

The rise of modern police departments was a development of the industrial age as cities needed a centralized force to combat rising crime in slums.

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I sort of wonder if training is actually the problem.

I know that sounds dumb, but hear me out: If I were to pull a Glock from my belt, expecting a Taser, I would be dumbfounded. "this doesn't feel right. Where's the safety? why isn't it yellow?" It would take me a second to figure out what was going on.

My only explanation for how that doesn't happen, is if you've got drawing and firing down to such a degree that it's purely muscle memory, and requires no conscious thought at all. Just mindless repetition of something you've done a million times. And you can do it without even looking.

I don't know what to do with that thought. I'm not sure it would be productive to tell police officers to practice less.

So... here's something I learned. Might be relevant. Might not. You decide.

Did you know as a flight instructor we are specifically instructed to pull right and left engines on multi-students at random and consciously keep track so as not to favor one side over the other in a disproportionate manner?

Because flight instructors were doing that. Most multiengine piston aircraft the left engine is the "critical" engine. The physics are slightly complicated as to why, but the basic idea is the descending blade produces more thrust than the ascending blade. Most engines are right turning, so the center of thrust on the right engine is further out than the center of thrust on the left engine. It's therefore harder to control after a left engine failure than a right.

Now there's exceptions. In the piper seminole, there's no critical engine because it uses counter-rotating engines - left one turns right, right one turns left. The Osprey on the other hand has two critical engines because the right one turns right and the left one turns left (there must be a reason for this, but no one has ever explained it to me).

Anyway, reason we were instructed to make sure we were doing this randomly and not favoring the left engine is because some instructors were repeatedly failing the left engine so often that when pilots they trained lost a RIGHT engine they shut down the wrong engine - reflexively shutting down the left engine even when it was the only engine they had.

If (and this is a big if, I have no understanding of her training) she only had scenario based training where she used her gun and not scenario based training where she used her taser, she might have done so reflexively as that is what had been drilled into her. But if that's the case, it means the training is horrible, and everyone should rethink it.

That she even thought it appropriate to taze someone in that situation is bad enough. The guy was about to drive away. If he hits the pedal and a taser hits him at the same time, that could easily end with him slamming headfirst into oncoming traffic at 80mph.

I don't understand how people keep defending these cops. Even if one has no pity for the suspects they kill, what about everyone else, all the civilians who end up as collateral damage.

[Big Bad Blue]

Early American law enforcement can be traced to the Germanic system of local government developed in Medieval England and frontier lawmen of the Scottish borders and Northern Ireland.

The rise of modern police departments was a development of the industrial age as cities capitalists needed a centralized force to combat rising crime in slums workers and their unions.

fify

[Bear Stearns]

Training for police officers in Minnesota is piss poor. And I am one of the very few pro-police people here on NS.

May I ask why you enjoy the taste of rubber?

Given that most anti-police people here seem to be fine with the federalization of law enforcement and are totally cool with a corporate police state to crack down on non-existent "domestic terrorism", I don't think you get to sling the boot licker card around.

[WayNeacTia]

LAPD accidentally shoots and kills 14-year old girl during robbery

Los Angeles police fatally shot a 14-year-old girl who was inside a clothing store dressing room Thursday as they fired at a suspect who had assaulted a woman earlier, authorities said.

Police also killed the male suspect, authorities said. He and the girl have not been named. The woman who had been assaulted was taken to the hospital with moderate to serious injuries.

The shots were fired around 11:45 a.m. at a Burlington store — part of a chain formerly known as Burlington Coat Factory — in the North Hollywood area of the San Fernando Valley.

Police initially responded to reports of a person being assaulted with a deadly weapon as well as reports of shots being fired, said Los Angeles police Capt. Stacy Spell at a news conference. Spell said officers opened fire when they saw the suspect assaulting another person. The suspect was struck by the officers’ bullets and killed, Spell said.

One of the bullets went through a dressing room wall and struck the 14-year-old girl, according to LAPD Assistant Chief Dominic Choi. Officers later found her inside.

“You can’t see into the dressing rooms and it just looks like a straight wall of drywall,” Choi said at a second news conference.

Investigators do not yet know whether the teenager was in the dressing room before the violence began or ran in there to hide, he said.

The California Department of Justice was investigating the shooting, Attorney General Rob Bonta said.

Choi said authorities do not yet know the man’s motive or whether he knew the woman he initially assaulted in the store.

Los Angeles Fire Department spokesperson Nicholas Prange said that woman had moderate to serious injuries and was transported to a hospital. It wasn’t immediately known if she’d been shot but Choi said she had injuries to her head, arms and face.

Police found a heavy metal cable lock near the suspect that they say may have been used in that assault.

Spell said the injured woman was the victim in the first assault report. It was not immediately clear what weapon was involved in that assault.

He added that police had received calls about the suspect acting erratically before the incident.

Imelda Garcia said her sister works in the store and was on break when she heard gunshots and everyone started running. Garcia said she spoke to her sister on the phone and that she’s OK but sounded “really nervous.”

Police escorted people out of the store nearly two hours after the shooting.

That cop gives morons a bad name. I watched the video. Subject was retreating, with his hands up and Rambo steps around the corner, says nothing and pops three rounds. One hit the suspect and two went through the wall striking and killing the girl. Now two people are dead because of a hotheaded cop that pushed his way to the front of the formation like a kid in kindergarten.

[Spokesland]

LAPD accidentally shoots and kills 14-year old girl during robbery

Los Angeles police fatally shot a 14-year-old girl who was inside a clothing store dressing room Thursday as they fired at a suspect who had assaulted a woman earlier, authorities said.

Police also killed the male suspect, authorities said. He and the girl have not been named. The woman who had been assaulted was taken to the hospital with moderate to serious injuries.

The shots were fired around 11:45 a.m. at a Burlington store — part of a chain formerly known as Burlington Coat Factory — in the North Hollywood area of the San Fernando Valley.

Police initially responded to reports of a person being assaulted with a deadly weapon as well as reports of shots being fired, said Los Angeles police Capt. Stacy Spell at a news conference. Spell said officers opened fire when they saw the suspect assaulting another person. The suspect was struck by the officers’ bullets and killed, Spell said.

One of the bullets went through a dressing room wall and struck the 14-year-old girl, according to LAPD Assistant Chief Dominic Choi. Officers later found her inside.

“You can’t see into the dressing rooms and it just looks like a straight wall of drywall,” Choi said at a second news conference.

Investigators do not yet know whether the teenager was in the dressing room before the violence began or ran in there to hide, he said.

The California Department of Justice was investigating the shooting, Attorney General Rob Bonta said.

Choi said authorities do not yet know the man’s motive or whether he knew the woman he initially assaulted in the store.

Los Angeles Fire Department spokesperson Nicholas Prange said that woman had moderate to serious injuries and was transported to a hospital. It wasn’t immediately known if she’d been shot but Choi said she had injuries to her head, arms and face.

Police found a heavy metal cable lock near the suspect that they say may have been used in that assault.

Spell said the injured woman was the victim in the first assault report. It was not immediately clear what weapon was involved in that assault.

He added that police had received calls about the suspect acting erratically before the incident.

Imelda Garcia said her sister works in the store and was on break when she heard gunshots and everyone started running. Garcia said she spoke to her sister on the phone and that she’s OK but sounded “really nervous.”

Police escorted people out of the store nearly two hours after the shooting.

That's really sad to see that that bullet went through and hit her, the cop did the right thing because he believed that the suspect could do harm to others so he responded with a decision to use deadly force, but again very sad

[Hispida]

LAPD accidentally shoots and kills 14-year old girl during robbery

Los Angeles police fatally shot a 14-year-old girl who was inside a clothing store dressing room Thursday as they fired at a suspect who had assaulted a woman earlier, authorities said.

Police also killed the male suspect, authorities said. He and the girl have not been named. The woman who had been assaulted was taken to the hospital with moderate to serious injuries.

The shots were fired around 11:45 a.m. at a Burlington store — part of a chain formerly known as Burlington Coat Factory — in the North Hollywood area of the San Fernando Valley.

Police initially responded to reports of a person being assaulted with a deadly weapon as well as reports of shots being fired, said Los Angeles police Capt. Stacy Spell at a news conference. Spell said officers opened fire when they saw the suspect assaulting another person. The suspect was struck by the officers’ bullets and killed, Spell said.

One of the bullets went through a dressing room wall and struck the 14-year-old girl, according to LAPD Assistant Chief Dominic Choi. Officers later found her inside.

“You can’t see into the dressing rooms and it just looks like a straight wall of drywall,” Choi said at a second news conference.

Investigators do not yet know whether the teenager was in the dressing room before the violence began or ran in there to hide, he said.

The California Department of Justice was investigating the shooting, Attorney General Rob Bonta said.

Choi said authorities do not yet know the man’s motive or whether he knew the woman he initially assaulted in the store.

Los Angeles Fire Department spokesperson Nicholas Prange said that woman had moderate to serious injuries and was transported to a hospital. It wasn’t immediately known if she’d been shot but Choi said she had injuries to her head, arms and face.

Police found a heavy metal cable lock near the suspect that they say may have been used in that assault.

Spell said the injured woman was the victim in the first assault report. It was not immediately clear what weapon was involved in that assault.

He added that police had received calls about the suspect acting erratically before the incident.

Imelda Garcia said her sister works in the store and was on break when she heard gunshots and everyone started running. Garcia said she spoke to her sister on the phone and that she’s OK but sounded “really nervous.”

Police escorted people out of the store nearly two hours after the shooting.

That's really sad to see that that bullet went through and hit her, the cop did the right thing because he believed that the suspect could do harm to others so he responded with a decision to use deadly force, but again very sad

did nothing wrong? the dude had his hands up and was retreating and was gunned down for doing the right thing.

[American Legionaries]

That's really sad to see that that bullet went through and hit her, the cop did the right thing because he believed that the suspect could do harm to others so he responded with a decision to use deadly force, but again very sad

did nothing wrong? the dude had his hands up and was retreating and was gunned down for doing the right thing.

According to the article provided, they shot when he assaulted another person.

[Hispida]

did nothing wrong? the dude had his hands up and was retreating and was gunned down for doing the right thing.

According to the article provided, they shot when he assaulted another person.

from what i heard he was shot when the guy who shot him rounded a corner when he had his hands up.

[Vassenor]

LAPD accidentally shoots and kills 14-year old girl during robbery

Los Angeles police fatally shot a 14-year-old girl who was inside a clothing store dressing room Thursday as they fired at a suspect who had assaulted a woman earlier, authorities said.

Police also killed the male suspect, authorities said. He and the girl have not been named. The woman who had been assaulted was taken to the hospital with moderate to serious injuries.

The shots were fired around 11:45 a.m. at a Burlington store — part of a chain formerly known as Burlington Coat Factory — in the North Hollywood area of the San Fernando Valley.

Police initially responded to reports of a person being assaulted with a deadly weapon as well as reports of shots being fired, said Los Angeles police Capt. Stacy Spell at a news conference. Spell said officers opened fire when they saw the suspect assaulting another person. The suspect was struck by the officers’ bullets and killed, Spell said.

One of the bullets went through a dressing room wall and struck the 14-year-old girl, according to LAPD Assistant Chief Dominic Choi. Officers later found her inside.

“You can’t see into the dressing rooms and it just looks like a straight wall of drywall,” Choi said at a second news conference.

Investigators do not yet know whether the teenager was in the dressing room before the violence began or ran in there to hide, he said.

The California Department of Justice was investigating the shooting, Attorney General Rob Bonta said.

Choi said authorities do not yet know the man’s motive or whether he knew the woman he initially assaulted in the store.

Los Angeles Fire Department spokesperson Nicholas Prange said that woman had moderate to serious injuries and was transported to a hospital. It wasn’t immediately known if she’d been shot but Choi said she had injuries to her head, arms and face.

Police found a heavy metal cable lock near the suspect that they say may have been used in that assault.

Spell said the injured woman was the victim in the first assault report. It was not immediately clear what weapon was involved in that assault.

He added that police had received calls about the suspect acting erratically before the incident.

Imelda Garcia said her sister works in the store and was on break when she heard gunshots and everyone started running. Garcia said she spoke to her sister on the phone and that she’s OK but sounded “really nervous.”

Police escorted people out of the store nearly two hours after the shooting.

That's really sad to see that that bullet went through and hit her, the cop did the right thing because he believed that the suspect could do harm to others so he responded with a decision to use deadly force, but again very sad

No, because a basic rule of gun safety is being aware of your target and what is behind it. Bullets will rip right through drywall.

[-Astoria-]

LAPD accidentally shoots and kills 14-year old girl during robbery

Los Angeles police fatally shot a 14-year-old girl who was inside a clothing store dressing room Thursday as they fired at a suspect who had assaulted a woman earlier, authorities said.

Police also killed the male suspect, authorities said. He and the girl have not been named. The woman who had been assaulted was taken to the hospital with moderate to serious injuries.

The shots were fired around 11:45 a.m. at a Burlington store — part of a chain formerly known as Burlington Coat Factory — in the North Hollywood area of the San Fernando Valley.

Police initially responded to reports of a person being assaulted with a deadly weapon as well as reports of shots being fired, said Los Angeles police Capt. Stacy Spell at a news conference. Spell said officers opened fire when they saw the suspect assaulting another person. The suspect was struck by the officers’ bullets and killed, Spell said.

One of the bullets went through a dressing room wall and struck the 14-year-old girl, according to LAPD Assistant Chief Dominic Choi. Officers later found her inside.

“You can’t see into the dressing rooms and it just looks like a straight wall of drywall,” Choi said at a second news conference.

Investigators do not yet know whether the teenager was in the dressing room before the violence began or ran in there to hide, he said.

The California Department of Justice was investigating the shooting, Attorney General Rob Bonta said.

Choi said authorities do not yet know the man’s motive or whether he knew the woman he initially assaulted in the store.

Los Angeles Fire Department spokesperson Nicholas Prange said that woman had moderate to serious injuries and was transported to a hospital. It wasn’t immediately known if she’d been shot but Choi said she had injuries to her head, arms and face.

Police found a heavy metal cable lock near the suspect that they say may have been used in that assault.

Spell said the injured woman was the victim in the first assault report. It was not immediately clear what weapon was involved in that assault.

He added that police had received calls about the suspect acting erratically before the incident.

Imelda Garcia said her sister works in the store and was on break when she heard gunshots and everyone started running. Garcia said she spoke to her sister on the phone and that she’s OK but sounded “really nervous.”

Police escorted people out of the store nearly two hours after the shooting.

That cop gives morons a bad name. I watched the video. Subject was retreating, with his hands up and Rambo steps around the corner, says nothing and pops three rounds. One hit the suspect and two went through the wall striking and killing the girl. Now two people are dead because of a hotheaded cop that pushed his way to the front of the formation like a kid in kindergarten.

I'm just wondering... is drywall seriously that easy to break?

[Vassenor]

That cop gives morons a bad name. I watched the video. Subject was retreating, with his hands up and Rambo steps around the corner, says nothing and pops three rounds. One hit the suspect and two went through the wall striking and killing the girl. Now two people are dead because of a hotheaded cop that pushed his way to the front of the formation like a kid in kindergarten.

I'm just wondering... is drywall seriously that easy to break?

Yes. You can punch a hole in it with your bare hands without too much effort.

[American Legionaries]

That cop gives morons a bad name. I watched the video. Subject was retreating, with his hands up and Rambo steps around the corner, says nothing and pops three rounds. One hit the suspect and two went through the wall striking and killing the girl. Now two people are dead because of a hotheaded cop that pushed his way to the front of the formation like a kid in kindergarten.

I'm just wondering... is drywall seriously that easy to break?

Drywall is essentially nothing in regards to stopping a bullet. Even relatively weak firearms will put a round through many walls of drywall.