US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Galloism]

Incidentally, the special prosecutor who prosecuted Smollett after Fox’s office dropped the case has released a report that the actions of the prosecutor’s office might have violated legal ethics.

Pursuant to the reporting obligations, they have reported these ethics violations to the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission for investigation.

[Big Bad Blue]

Yes, because bank managers are better at identifying bad checks than patrolman are.

even depositing like $5k in cash at a bank will arouse the suspicion of the manager

Not in my experience. I had US$3k to deposit one time. I drove up to the window and got the "another old guy in a late model sedan" look with attitude to match from the teller. After I forked over the lettuce she was all "ooh have a great day sir, can I do anything esle for you today ooh," I was all of a sudden "old guy in a late model sedan with three long in cash."

[Big Bad Blue]

Incidentally, the special prosecutor who prosecuted Smollett after Fox’s office dropped the case has released a report that the actions of the prosecutor’s office might have violated legal ethics.

Pursuant to the reporting obligations, they have reported these ethics violations to the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission for investigation.

Says the Republican who helped bury Iran-Contra and palled around with Rudy Giuliani. I give it about as much chance as Trump's suit against the NY AG.

[Galloism]

Incidentally, the special prosecutor who prosecuted Smollett after Fox’s office dropped the case has released a report that the actions of the prosecutor’s office might have violated legal ethics.

Pursuant to the reporting obligations, they have reported these ethics violations to the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission for investigation.

Says the Republican who helped bury Iran-Contra and palled around with Rudy Giuliani. I give it about as much chance as Trump's suit against the NY AG.

He repeatedly quotes Kim Fox herself as being shocked and confused at what happened in the case after she recused herself.

[Prima Scriptura]

Kim Potter found guilty on call counts

I agree with the verdict. She was in the reckless and she deserves to be in prison for causing a death of an unarmed individual. That fact that she appears to feel remorse shouldn’t result in a non-guilty verdict.

[Vassenor]

Kim Potter found guilty on call counts

I agree with the verdict. She was in the reckless and she deserves to be in prison for causing a death of an unarmed individual. That fact that she appears to feel remorse shouldn’t result in a non-guilty verdict.

Remorse is generally only a factor when it reaches the sentencing stage, yes.

[Prima Scriptura]

Kim Potter found guilty on call counts

I agree with the verdict. She was in the reckless and she deserves to be in prison for causing a death of an unarmed individual. That fact that she appears to feel remorse shouldn’t result in a non-guilty verdict.

Remorse is generally only a factor when it reaches the sentencing stage, yes.

I personally believe that she has genuine remorse. I don’t think she should get the maximum sentence, but she does deserve at least three years.

[Big Bad Blue]

Kim Potter found guilty on call counts

I agree with the verdict. She was in the reckless and she deserves to be in prison for causing a death of an unarmed individual. That fact that she appears to feel remorse shouldn’t result in a non-guilty verdict.

Justice: done.

[Spokesland]

Kim Potter found guilty on call counts

I agree with the verdict. She was in the reckless and she deserves to be in prison for causing a death of an unarmed individual. That fact that she appears to feel remorse shouldn’t result in a non-guilty verdict.

It is disappointing to see a public figure be this thoughtless and irresponsible in their judgments, she does deserve the sentence and the remorse should be genuine but what's done is done

[-Astoria-]

Kim Potter found guilty on call counts

I agree with the verdict. She was in the reckless and she deserves to be in prison for causing a death of an unarmed individual. That fact that she appears to feel remorse shouldn’t result in a non-guilty verdict.

Good.

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The most infuriating thing about the Kim Potter case is all her defenders crying "everyone makes mistakes" and "it was a stressful situation" and "she was acting on instinct" are the same people who say "if he had followed instructions he wouldn't be dead" about a man who ends up shot 60 times because he instinctively pulled up his pants and couldn't realize in the state of terror of having guns aimed at him that the cops might use that as an excuse to kill him.

Where's the sympathy for the people who have to contend with complying with "put your hands on the dash and get out of the car" with a gun to their heads?

[Galloism]

The most infuriating thing about the Kim Potter case is all her defenders crying "everyone makes mistakes" and "it was a stressful situation" and "she was acting on instinct" are the same people who say "if he had followed instructions he wouldn't be dead" about a man who ends up shot 60 times because he instinctively pulled up his pants and couldn't realize in the state of terror of having guns aimed at him that the cops might use that as an excuse to kill him.

Where's the sympathy for the people who have to contend with complying with "put your hands on the dash and get out of the car" with a gun to their heads?

Yeah, I have no sympathy for her.

Taser and gun are carried on opposite sides of the body for a reason, and you should be training to draw both in different scenario based training.

[Dogmeat]

The most infuriating thing about the Kim Potter case is all her defenders crying "everyone makes mistakes" and "it was a stressful situation" and "she was acting on instinct" are the same people who say "if he had followed instructions he wouldn't be dead" about a man who ends up shot 60 times because he instinctively pulled up his pants and couldn't realize in the state of terror of having guns aimed at him that the cops might use that as an excuse to kill him.

Where's the sympathy for the people who have to contend with complying with "put your hands on the dash and get out of the car" with a gun to their heads?

Yeah, I have no sympathy for her.

Taser and gun are carried on opposite sides of the body for a reason, and you should be training to draw both in different scenario based training.

I sort of wonder if training is actually the problem.

I know that sounds dumb, but hear me out: If I were to pull a Glock from my belt, expecting a Taser, I would be dumbfounded. "this doesn't feel right. Where's the safety? why isn't it yellow?" It would take me a second to figure out what was going on.

My only explanation for how that doesn't happen, is if you've got drawing and firing down to such a degree that it's purely muscle memory, and requires no conscious thought at all. Just mindless repetition of something you've done a million times. And you can do it without even looking.

I don't know what to do with that thought. I'm not sure it would be productive to tell police officers to practice less.

[Senkaku]

I sort of wonder if training is actually the problem.

I know that sounds dumb, but hear me out:

I heard you out, it sounds even dumber when you explain the whole thought process

[Dogmeat]

I sort of wonder if training is actually the problem.

I know that sounds dumb, but hear me out:

I heard you out, it sounds even dumber when you explain the whole thought process

Somebody piss in your cornflakes this morning?

[Sovijet Socialist Republics]

I don't know whether a custodial sentence is appropriate. There was no intent to murder, she evidently didn't realize that she was doing something dangerous, and she feels remorse.

Some form of punishment is definitely required.

[Senkaku]

I don't know whether a custodial sentence is appropriate. There was no intent to murder, she evidently didn't realize that she was doing something dangerous, and she feels remorse.

Some form of punishment is definitely required.

I heard you out, it sounds even dumber when you explain the whole thought process

Somebody piss in your cornflakes this morning?

The simplest explanation is not that she accidentally reached to the wrong side of her body and picked up a heavier, different-colored weapon, or that she went into some sort of flow state trance from her years of intensive training and acted on instinct before her conscious mind could override her with her actual desire to use a taser. It’s that she wanted to see if she could get away with shooting a guy and then offering some lame excuse afterwards, and had maybe come to feel remorseful about it.

[Dogmeat]

I don't know whether a custodial sentence is appropriate. There was no intent to murder, she evidently didn't realize that she was doing something dangerous, and she feels remorse.

Some form of punishment is definitely required.

That's pretty much the definition of manslaughter.

Under similar circumstances officer Noor was sentenced to 9.5 years. That got reduced some, but it would be a travesty the Black cop who accidentally shoots a White woman gets a decade, and the White cop who accidentally shoots a Black man gets nothing.

[Sovijet Socialist Republics]

I don't know whether a custodial sentence is appropriate. There was no intent to murder, she evidently didn't realize that she was doing something dangerous, and she feels remorse.

Some form of punishment is definitely required.

Somebody piss in your cornflakes this morning?

The simplest explanation is not that she accidentally reached to the wrong side of her body and picked up a heavier, different-colored weapon, or that she went into some sort of flow state trance from her years of intensive training and acted on instinct before her conscious mind could override her with her actual desire to use a taser. It’s that she wanted to see if she could get away with shooting a guy and then offering some lame excuse afterwards, and had maybe come to feel remorseful about it.

Do people really believe that she had concocted some master plan to just murder someone?

I don't know whether a custodial sentence is appropriate. There was no intent to murder, she evidently didn't realize that she was doing something dangerous, and she feels remorse.

Some form of punishment is definitely required.

That's pretty much the definition of manslaughter.

Under similar circumstances officer Noor was sentenced to 9.5 years. That got reduced some, but it would be a travesty the Black cop who accidentally shoots a White woman gets a decade, and the White cop who accidentally shoots a Black man gets nothing.

But that cop intended to use his gun, and opened fire on a lady who was unarmed, in her bedwear and trying to summon help. It's a little different of a situation.

[Ifreann]

I don't know whether a custodial sentence is appropriate. There was no intent to murder, she evidently didn't realize that she was doing something dangerous, and she feels remorse.

Some form of punishment is definitely required.

I don't think it's credible that there was no intent to murder.

[Senkaku]

The simplest explanation is not that she accidentally reached to the wrong side of her body and picked up a heavier, different-colored weapon, or that she went into some sort of flow state trance from her years of intensive training and acted on instinct before her conscious mind could override her with her actual desire to use a taser. It’s that she wanted to see if she could get away with shooting a guy and then offering some lame excuse afterwards, and had maybe come to feel remorseful about it.

Do people really believe that she had concocted some master plan to just murder someone?

Not at all; clearly it wasn’t much of a “master plan,” given how lame her excuse was. People kill on the spur of the moment literally all the time, it’s very common.

[Sovijet Socialist Republics]

I don't know whether a custodial sentence is appropriate. There was no intent to murder, she evidently didn't realize that she was doing something dangerous, and she feels remorse.

Some form of punishment is definitely required.

I don't think it's credible that there was no intent to murder.

Based on what?

She sat around consumed with sadness afterwards.

[Senkaku]

I don't think it's credible that there was no intent to murder.

Based on what?

She sat around consumed with sadness afterwards.

Do you think murderers never appear genuinely sad after murdering…?

[Ifreann]

I don't think it's credible that there was no intent to murder.

Based on what?

She sat around consumed with sadness afterwards.

Based on the fact that a handgun and a taser carried on opposite sides of the body are not things easily mixed up.

[Necroghastia]

Based on what?

She sat around consumed with sadness afterwards.

Do you think murderers never appear genuinely sad after murdering…?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Michael_Stephani