US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Kowani]

…Yeah, ‘cause there was a whole extra month called June in between.

Forgot about June. Woops!

Now including June, everything went up between May and June, June and July, and July and August. Nothing changed.

Wonder if that could be because of reduced compliance with lockdown orders during that time.
Oh, wait.

[Fahran]

Mother and Baby left homeless after cops destroy their home in raid for man who was already in jail.

Just why?

I hope someone can provide them with temporary shelter and that a good lawyer is willing to take their case pro bono. They can probably expect several hundred thousand dollars in settlement, which should hopefully replace the house. I can only imagine how traumatic that was.

[Kowani]

Mother and Baby left homeless after cops destroy their home in raid for man who was already in jail.

Just why?

Normally, I would do a long post here about miscommunication within the police departments and a willingness to use excessive force as a consequence of the Punisher mindset.
But sometimes, I think they just don’t care. The law must be maintained, ends justify the means, civilian casualties be damned.

I hope someone can provide them with temporary shelter and that a good lawyer is willing to take their case pro bono. They can probably expect several hundred thousand dollars in settlement, which should hopefully replace the house. I can only imagine how traumatic that was.

My hopes are significantly less high. The lack of media attention makes the prospect of a good lawyer noticing this to be minimal.

[The of Japan]

Just why?

Normally, I would do a long post here about miscommunication within the police departments and a willingness to use excessive force as a consequence of the Punisher mindset.
But sometimes, I think they just don’t care. The law must be maintained, ends justify the means, civilian casualties be damned.

I hope someone can provide them with temporary shelter and that a good lawyer is willing to take their case pro bono. They can probably expect several hundred thousand dollars in settlement, which should hopefully replace the house. I can only imagine how traumatic that was.

My hopes are significantly less high. The lack of media attention makes the prospect of a good lawyer noticing this to be minimal.

Lets also remember that the courts have ruled against the reimbursement of people who had their homes destroyed in police raids in the past, such as this one family in Denver, Colorado.
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/30/77478861 ... court-says

[Fartsniffage]

Mother and Baby left homeless after cops destroy their home in raid for man who was already in jail.

Just why?

I hope someone can provide them with temporary shelter and that a good lawyer is willing to take their case pro bono. They can probably expect several hundred thousand dollars in settlement, which should hopefully replace the house. I can only imagine how traumatic that was.

It happened because the US police have had power and immunity for far too long. BLM.

[The Rich Port]

Mother and Baby left homeless after cops destroy their home in raid for man who was already in jail.

Just why?

I hope someone can provide them with temporary shelter and that a good lawyer is willing to take their case pro bono. They can probably expect several hundred thousand dollars in settlement, which should hopefully replace the house. I can only imagine how traumatic that was.

They probably won't and the sad part is the police don't have to help them out... Because the police have too much protection.

Yeah, they have a settlement coming... IF the judge decides they're entitled to it.

[Liriena]

Who are you talking about?

It's just standard fantasizing about mowing down liberals and other political ne'er-do-wells, the usual.

American conservatives: "stop calling us fascists you dumb libs! that's crazy talk!"

also American conservatives: "I can't wait to get the chance to massacre a bunch of leftists lol"

[The Rich Port]

It's just standard fantasizing about mowing down liberals and other political ne'er-do-wells, the usual.

American conservatives: "stop calling us fascists you dumb libs! that's crazy talk!"

also American conservatives: "I can't wait to get the chance to massacre a bunch of leftists lol"

Reactionaries: "Everyone who is not a white American doesn't deserve to live or have rights"

Also Reactionaries: "Why does everyone hate us so much and wanna take away our power?"

[Fahran]

American conservatives: "stop calling us fascists you dumb libs! that's crazy talk!"

also American conservatives: "I can't wait to get the chance to massacre a bunch of leftists lol"

1. Let's not generalize people. Most people, regardless of ideology or partisan affiliation, don't want to massacre people.

2. Fascists do not necessarily dream about massacres of their political opponents despite us associating fascism with the horrors of the Nazi regime and the worst excesses of similar regimes. Liberals, socialists, monarchists, etc. are all at least somewhat capable of rejoicing in the deaths of their political enemies because it's not something that's necessarily rooted intrinsically into a particular ideology, though I would assert some ideologies are more predisposed to it based on their frameworks and paradigms. Really, it's a symptom of self-righteous wrath - which is a human rather than ideological issue.

[Cannot think of a name]

Mother and Baby left homeless after cops destroy their home in raid for man who was already in jail.

How do you, in the wake of Brianna Taylor, not double check the fucking addresses and have any warrant teams on speed dial in case they get who they're looking for first? Like, if this kind of shit happens while we're freaking out about the last time it happened, that's a systemic problem.

Ooo, it was to get a protester. Nice level of what the fuckery. Here's a local source.

Pruiett was not hurt or arrested but says the incident was traumatizing. Several windows were blown out, glass covered the floor, the front door knocked in, and she says the house was ransacked.

Pruiett says the incident was unsettling because the roommate officers were looking for had been arrested earlier that morning at his place of work.

Colorado Springs Police charged Lloyd Porche for menacing and engaging in a riot at a Black Lives Matter protest on August 3.

They told our partners at the Denver Post they seized an “AR-15 style rifle” from the home but could not confirm if the gun was owned legally. Pruiett says the gun was owned legally.

“There’s a lot of ways they could have went about it that could never have endangered my child,“ she said. “My roommate Lloyd, I know he has been to protests, but I didn’t think that was illegal.”

The incident has uprooted her family. They have been given notice to vacate or face eviction. Pruiett believes it’s because of the damage done to the property by officers.

A friend has set up a GoFundMe to help her relocate.

Pruiett is considering filing legal action.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

The incident has uprooted her family. They have been given notice to vacate or face eviction. Pruiett believes it’s because of the damage done to the property by officers.

Private enterprise to the rescue.

[Mirjt]

American conservatives: "stop calling us fascists you dumb libs! that's crazy talk!"

also American conservatives: "I can't wait to get the chance to massacre a bunch of leftists lol"

1. Let's not generalize people. Most people, regardless of ideology or partisan affiliation, don't want to massacre people.

2. Fascists do not necessarily dream about massacres of their political opponents despite us associating fascism with the horrors of the Nazi regime and the worst excesses of similar regimes. Liberals, socialists, monarchists, etc. are all at least somewhat capable of rejoicing in the deaths of their political enemies because it's not something that's necessarily rooted intrinsically into a particular ideology, though I would assert some ideologies are more predisposed to it based on their frameworks and paradigms. Really, it's a symptom of self-righteous wrath - which is a human rather than ideological issue.

However, political psychologists have identified that the same mindset that fosters conservatism also fosters fascism, they have also pretty clearly shown how fascism naturally evolves out of nationalism and how nationalism naturally evolves out of over-enthusiastic patriotism.

[The Archregimancy]

It's just standard fantasizing about mowing down liberals and other political ne'er-do-wells, the usual.

American conservatives: "stop calling us fascists you dumb libs! that's crazy talk!"

also American conservatives: "I can't wait to get the chance to massacre a bunch of leftists lol"

*** Warned for trolling for the underlined ***; regardless of the intent, this wildly misrepresents the views of the majority of American conservatives in trolling manner.

You're escaping a ban because you might have intended this as relatively innocent humour; but someone with your warning record should know better.

[Ifreann]

Mother and Baby left homeless after cops destroy their home in raid for man who was already in jail.

After the raid was over, no arrests were made because the man police were looking for was already in custody — for allegedly participating in a protest that devolved into a riot. Colorado Springs Police had already arrested Lloyd Porche at his place of work on charges of menacing and engaging in a riot at a Black Lives Matter protest on August 3.

“There’s a lot of ways they could have went about it that could never have endangered my child,“ she said. “My roommate Lloyd, I know he has been to protests, but I didn’t think that was illegal.”

Of course it's the cops trying to arrest a protester. Gotta swoop in like they're arresting El Chapo if they're going to intimidate other protesters into staying home.

[Fahran]

However, political psychologists have identified that the same mindset that fosters conservatism also fosters fascism, they have also pretty clearly shown how fascism naturally evolves out of nationalism and how nationalism naturally evolves out of over-enthusiastic patriotism.

I'd like to see a source on this if you have one. I don't think fascism is the inexorable logical end-point of nationalism either. We have plenty of de facto left-wing nationalists out in the world - from old Sein Fein to the modern YPG/YPJ and both iterations of the Black Panthers. As a conservative, I tend to characterize the totalitarian aspects of fascism as akin to a usurpation of the responsibilities and functions of social institutions that are better left to their own devices.

[Fahran]

Of course it's the cops trying to arrest a protester. Gotta swoop in like they're arresting El Chapo if they're going to intimidate other protesters into staying home.

A rioter. They're arresting a rioter.

But, yeah, wrecking the entire house was pointless and stupid.

[Ifreann]

Of course it's the cops trying to arrest a protester. Gotta swoop in like they're arresting El Chapo if they're going to intimidate other protesters into staying home.

A rioter. They're arresting a rioter.

They weren't arresting anyone.

But, yeah, wrecking the entire house was pointless and stupid.

No, wrecking the entire house was a deliberate intimidation move.

[Fahran]

They weren't arresting anyone.

You mentioned them trying to arrest a protestor. I don't think someone who literally attempts to provoke violence is being arrested because he's exercising his right to free speech. He's being arrested because he engaged in violence which is illegal and rightly so.

And, yes, as has been established, he'd already been arrested.

No, wrecking the entire house was a deliberate intimidation move.

Potentially, yes, but let's not go straight to conspiracy theories without more ample consideration.

[Salus Maior]

Mother and Baby left homeless after cops destroy their home in raid for man who was already in jail.

Obvious police abuse is obvious, but how does the landlord have a right to evict the woman for the mistakes of the police?

[Salus Maior]

Potentially, yes, but let's not go straight to conspiracy theories without more ample consideration.

I don't know, I'm kind of with Ifreann on this.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

https://www.macombdaily.com/news/local/ ... l#comments

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 842095002/

A march to support a black family who was targeted with racial slurs in nearby Warren turned violent today when a bunch of trumpsters showed up. I was shocked at first and then the other news story I posted made headlines and I remembered that Macomb County is where all the racists hang.

Good luck having a BLM March here. I remember some guy tried to run people over at one a friend of mine organized and another crazy bitch tried to ram some BLM protesters only a few miles from my home. This place is trump country. I'm shocked we don't have a local chapter of the Klan here.

[Kowani]

Mother and Baby left homeless after cops destroy their home in raid for man who was already in jail.

Obvious police abuse is obvious, but how does the landlord have a right to evict the woman for the mistakes of the police?

…I have no clue.
I was not aware that was legal.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Mother and Baby left homeless after cops destroy their home in raid for man who was already in jail.

Obvious police abuse is obvious, but how does the landlord have a right to evict the woman for the mistakes of the police?

Apparently there's a case where a renter was billed for damage done by the police, it went to court and the police didn't have to pay at all. So much for property rights.

So I'm guessing the landlord demanded she pay, she said "I can't" so he ordered her to leave. No doubt keeping any bond she payed.

[Fahran]

Apparently there's a case where a renter was billed for damage done by the police, it went to court and the police didn't have to pay at all. So much for property rights.

So I'm guessing the landlord demanded she pay, she said "I can't" so he ordered her to leave. No doubt keeping any bond she payed.

The government seems to protect itself quite broadly from the damages caused by the negligence and/or abuse of its employees. It's a travesty, really.

[Kowani]

Apparently there's a case where a renter was billed for damage done by the police, it went to court and the police didn't have to pay at all. So much for property rights.

So I'm guessing the landlord demanded she pay, she said "I can't" so he ordered her to leave. No doubt keeping any bond she payed.

The government seems to protect itself quite broadly from the damages caused by the negligence and/or abuse of its employees. It's a travesty, really.

Of course they do. They write the laws on who can be sued.
Why wouldn't they protect themselves?