US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Bear Stearns]

Minneapolis City Council VP Andrea Jenkins Says Activists Held Her Captive

Gotta love those “peaceful anarchists” that hold a black trans women hostage.

lol fuck both of these people

[Omniabstracta]

If you're making the argument that having less police is causing the homicide rate to increase you need to prove that. That's how case studies work.

Minneapolis on pace for near-record homicide number, as city sees violent crime spike

Twin Cities rocked by uptick in serious crimes

And surely, the end of lockdowns, the reopening of the economy, the increase in arms sales during the pandemic, and the changes in material conditions for many people brought on by the pandemic had zero effect on this phenomenon. That’s how research works, folks.

[Uiiop]

it's always copaganda o'clock, isn't it

I know, it’s a choice between having no police, or having police that kill BIPOIC without consequence. There is no situation where we can have good policing that serves and protects everyone.

Kowani wasn't saying anything of the sort.
The current police establishment excesses have nothing to do with addressing crime surges and it seems faulty to implicitly frame it being punished as the reason for an surge of things they are mostly crap at solving.

[North Washington Republic]

Minneapolis on pace for near-record homicide number, as city sees violent crime spike

Twin Cities rocked by uptick in serious crimes

And surely, the end of lockdowns, the reopening of the economy, the increase in arms sales during the pandemic, and the changes in material conditions for many people brought on by the pandemic had zero effect on this phenomenon. That’s how research works, folks.

Sure, the pandemic and the ending of lockdowns does play a role the crime spike. But crime was also rising in 202O also.

[Uiiop]

And surely, the end of lockdowns, the reopening of the economy, the increase in arms sales during the pandemic, and the changes in material conditions for many people brought on by the pandemic had zero effect on this phenomenon. That’s how research works, folks.

Sure, the pandemic and the ending of lockdowns does play a role the crime spike. But crime was also rising in 202O also.

That sounds like the pandemic. Even more so since whatever reforms had less time to impact things.

Correlation doesn't mean causation even if an pro-status quo makes it seem intuitive.

[North Washington Republic]

I know, it’s a choice between having no police, or having police that kill BIPOIC without consequence. There is no situation where we can have good policing that serves and protects everyone.

Kowani wasn't saying anything of the sort.
The current police establishment excesses have nothing to do with addressing crime surges and it seems faulty to implicitly frame it being punished as the reason for an surge of things they are mostly crap at solving.

The reason why it’s “crap” is because Minneapolis doesn’t have enough police to meet the demand. The demoralizing of police has also made less people want to become cops. This includes good people that would have been wonderful police offices. Because you know, “AlL cOpS aRe BaStArDs”

[Uiiop]

Kowani wasn't saying anything of the sort.
The current police establishment excesses have nothing to do with addressing crime surges and it seems faulty to implicitly frame it being punished as the reason for an surge of things they are mostly crap at solving.

The reason why it’s “crap” is because Minneapolis doesn’t have enough police to meet the demand. The demoralizing of police has also made less people want to become cops. This includes good people that would have been wonderful police offices. Because you know, “AlL cOpS aRe BaStArDs”

That sounds more like a "Fix policing" than "Stop not liking police" problem regardless of the causation.

As i've said police in general don't usually meet the demands any ways.

[Greater Cesnica]

Minneapolis City Council VP Andrea Jenkins Says Activists Held Her Captive

Gotta love those “peaceful anarchists” that hold a black trans women hostage.

why should i care

[Uiiop]

that hold a black trans women hostage.

why should i care

It would help if it ain't just link to the new post yes.

[North Washington Republic]

The reason why it’s “crap” is because Minneapolis doesn’t have enough police to meet the demand. The demoralizing of police has also made less people want to become cops. This includes good people that would have been wonderful police offices. Because you know, “AlL cOpS aRe BaStArDs”

That sounds more like a "Fix policing" than "Stop not liking police" problem regardless of the causation.

As i've said police in general don't usually meet the demands any ways.

Oh, but we can fix the problems within policing, defunding is not helpful and only benefits violent criminals.

[North Washington Republic]

Minneapolis City Council VP Andrea Jenkins Says Activists Held Her Captive

Gotta love those “peaceful anarchists” that hold a black trans women hostage.

why should i care

Well, you cared enough to respond to my post.
Nobody is asking you to care.

[Uiiop]

That sounds more like a "Fix policing" than "Stop not liking police" problem regardless of the causation.

As i've said police in general don't usually meet the demands any ways.

Oh, but we can fix the problems within policing, defunding is not helpful and only benefits violent criminals.

Just because ideally something should be well-funded doesn't mean the actual org is using that funding well.
I agree these are half measures at best and neo-liberalism at worse but you are ignoring just where the money's going and not questioning just how good these people are at these jobs anyways. There are more ways to fight crime with less shitty industries.

[Greater Cesnica]

why should i care

Well, you cared enough to respond to my post.
Nobody is asking you to care.

Well, you made the initial post telling us about this literal who named Andrea Jenkins. Why should we care about her being accosted by activists?

[North Washington Republic]

Well, you cared enough to respond to my post.
Nobody is asking you to care.

Well, you made the initial post telling us about this literal who named Andrea Jenkins. Why should we care about her being accosted by activists?

She was literally held hostage until she singed a list of demands that these “activists” wanted.

Are you okay with holding elected politicians hostage? That is form is terrorism.

[Uiiop]

Well, you cared enough to respond to my post.
Nobody is asking you to care.

Well, you made the initial post telling us about this literal who named Andrea Jenkins. Why should we care about her being accosted by activists?

*Looks the news article up*

I'm not a fan but having the people you rep ask you shit and making her wait in her car seems like the cost of doing business. NWA agrees they are not doing enough so why should he care?

It's not like we can just tone police people screwed over by cops.

[Bear Stearns]

Well, you made the initial post telling us about this literal who named Andrea Jenkins. Why should we care about her being accosted by activists?

She was literally held hostage until she singed a list of demands that these “activists” wanted.

Are you okay with holding elected politicians hostage? That is form is terrorism.

This is the logical conclusion of everything this woman has previously advocated for. She deserves it.

[North Washington Republic]

Well, you made the initial post telling us about this literal who named Andrea Jenkins. Why should we care about her being accosted by activists?

*Looks the news article up*

I'm not a fan but having the people you rep ask you shit and making her wait in her car seems like the cost of doing business. NWA agrees they are not doing enough so why should he care?

It's not like we can just tone police people screwed over by cops.

Um no. Nobody should be held hostage and agree to terms under duress. That is terrorism at worst and thuggery at best. This includes when it happens to elected politicians.

[Uiiop]

Well, you made the initial post telling us about this literal who named Andrea Jenkins. Why should we care about her being accosted by activists?

She was literally held hostage until she singed a list of demands that these “activists” wanted.

Are you okay with holding elected politicians hostage? That is form is terrorism.

It's at worst a citizen's filibuster. If other politicians can try to disrupt shit until they get what they want then why not the people?

[North Washington Republic]

She was literally held hostage until she singed a list of demands that these “activists” wanted.

Are you okay with holding elected politicians hostage? That is form is terrorism.

It's at worst a citizen's filibuster. If other politicians can try to disrupt shit until they get what they want then why not the people?

Because holding people hostage is a crime and an act of violence. That’s why.

[Bear Stearns]

It's at worst a citizen's filibuster. If other politicians can try to disrupt shit until they get what they want then why not the people?

Because holding people hostage is a crime and an act of violence. That’s why.

Yawn.

[Uiiop]

It's at worst a citizen's filibuster. If other politicians can try to disrupt shit until they get what they want then why not the people?

Because holding people hostage is a crime and an act of violence. That’s why.

Protests were won even in the CRA by people holding hostages. That's was practically mr.Moderate-CRA Singer LBJ'd whole role in the CRM. Bullying everyone no matter whose side they were on.

You don't have to like it. I sure don't but that doesn't mean I care past the big picture.

[North Washington Republic]

Because holding people hostage is a crime and an act of violence. That’s why.

Protests were won even in the CRA by people holding hostages. That's was practically mr.Moderate-CRA Singer LBJ'd whole role in the CRM. Bullying everyone no matter whose side they were on.

You don't have to like it. I sure don't but that doesn't mean I care past the big picture.

Shit like holding a black trans women hostage isn’t going to lead the reforms that these “activist” were screeching about.

[Uiiop]

Protests were won even in the CRA by people holding hostages. That's was practically mr.Moderate-CRA Singer LBJ'd whole role in the CRM. Bullying everyone no matter whose side they were on.

You don't have to like it. I sure don't but that doesn't mean I care past the big picture.

Shit like holding a black trans women hostage isn’t going to lead the reforms that these “activist” were screeching about.

Sit-ins under your definition are all about terrorizing business owners who were probably not all white people. They were a key part of the CRM and as such your Generalizations are faulty even if the specific incident sucked(Though TBQH i don't think it necessarily matters either way anymore than the riots back in the CRM).

And again with source: LBJ the closest thing to centrist role-model on these issues was also an terrorist.

[North Washington Republic]

Shit like holding a black trans women hostage isn’t going to lead the reforms that these “activist” were screeching about.

Sit-ins under your definition are all about terrorizing business owners who were probably not all white people. They were a key part of the CRM and as such your Generalizations are faulty even if the specific incident sucked(Though TBQH i don't think it necessarily matters either way anymore than the riots back in the CRM).

Comparing sit-ins to holding someone hostage is just ridiculous and nonsensical. The sitins were not preventing anyone leaving or moving. Standing in front of someone’s car, preventing them to move, screaming at them, asking them to sign something under duress is nothing like the sit-ins.

Also, having aggressive body language isn’t the same thing as holding someone hostage.

[Greater Cesnica]

It's at worst a citizen's filibuster. If other politicians can try to disrupt shit until they get what they want then why not the people?

Because holding people hostage is a crime and an act of violence. That’s why.

How tragic.