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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:39 pm

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Zapato wrote:Meanwhile, in real life, about a dozen states with right-wing legislatures are currently trying to censor critical statements such as "there were bad sides to slavery".

And yet you can't get fired from your job for saying something like that.

But opposing education on "whiteness" or opposing BLM could get you labelled a security threat and fired.


Considering that they're banning CRT from classrooms by law in Florida, you can be fired for it.

Also most anti BDS states are conservative and you CAN get in legal trouble there for violating anti BDS laws.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:40 pm

Ayytaly wrote:I think capping the number of white people in law enforcement of the most cosmopolitan regions in North America would reduce brutality. Racism and authoritarianism tend to go hand in hand.


It's a nice sentiment but more black and brown cops won't really help. The rot cuts across racial lines.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:44 pm

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Zapato wrote:Meanwhile, in real life, about a dozen states with right-wing legislatures are currently trying to censor critical statements such as "there were bad sides to slavery".

And yet you can't get fired from your job for saying something like that.

But opposing education on "whiteness" or opposing BLM could get you labelled a security threat and fired.


And I'm sure you have actual examples of this that you can show the class. We're not big on DUDE TRUST ME arguments here.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:25 pm


Seems like a crime? Some kind of illegal?
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:26 pm

Ifreann wrote:

Seems like a crime? Some kind of illegal?


You'd think.
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What in the fuck? Did I hear the cop correctly, the door was open so he can just come right on in? Eh, NO. Then arrests the guy for nothing?

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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:09 pm

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What in the fuck? Did I hear the cop correctly, the door was open so he can just come right on in? Eh, NO. Then arrests the guy for nothing?


No, not for nothing.

He had the gall to ask if he had a warrant.
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Postby Senkaku » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:38 am

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What in the fuck? Did I hear the cop correctly, the door was open so he can just come right on in? Eh, NO. Then arrests the guy for nothing?

Iirc the victim later posted a video showing the cop had to go through two doors, up a flight of stairs, and then through another door lol
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Car ploughs into demonstrators in Minnesota, killing 1

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A woman was killed and another person was injured after being struck by a car during a protest in Minneapolis’ Uptown neighborhood where a Black man was fatally shot earlier this month during an arrest attempt, police said Monday.

The suspect was pulled from his car by protesters after the 11:39 p.m. Sunday crash and is now in custody and being treated for injuries at a hospital, police said on Twitter. Police did not say how the man was hurt or give the extent of his injuries.

His motive was not immediately known. A statement from police said a preliminary investigation indicated that the use of drugs or alcohol by the driver may be a contributing factor in the crash.

Police earlier said that three protesters had been injured, but later revised that number to two, including the woman who died.

There had been ongoing protests in Uptown since the June 3 shooting of Winston Boogie Smith Jr., a 32-year-old father of three, by members of a federal U.S. Marshals Service task force.

Authorities have said Smith, who was wanted on a weapons violation, fired a gun before deputies fatally shot him in Minneapolis, a city on edge since George Floyd’s death more than a year ago under an officer’s knee and the more recent fatal police shooting of Daunte Wright in a nearby suburb.

Members of the U.S. Marshals Fugitive Task Force were trying to arrest Smith on a warrant for allegedly being a felon in possession of a gun, authorities said. The Marshals Service said in a statement that Smith, who was in a parked vehicle, didn’t comply with law enforcement and “produced a handgun resulting in task force members firing upon the subject.”

Smith died at the scene. State investigators said Smith’s passenger, a 27-year-old woman, was treated for injuries from glass debris. The woman, however, said she never saw a gun on Smith or in the vehicle, her attorneys said last week — contradicting investigators’ claims about Smith’s actions.

There has been tension between police and residents since the deaths of Floyd, a Black man who died last year after he was pinned to the ground by Minneapolis officers, and Wright, a Black motorist who was fatally shot in April by an officer in the nearby suburb of Brooklyn Center.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:39 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:What in the fuck? Did I hear the cop correctly, the door was open so he can just come right on in? Eh, NO. Then arrests the guy for nothing?


No, not for nothing.

He had the gall to ask if he had a warrant.

Sorry, forgot asking a valid question is an arrestable offense.

Senkaku wrote:Iirc the victim later posted a video showing the cop had to go through two doors, up a flight of stairs, and then through another door lol

Yeah I seen that at the end
So is this gestapo shitbrick just running around neighborhoods trying door handles and if it isn't locked just goes right on in? Christ, the gall of some cops.

If anyone that needs to be arrested its the cop for trespass, illegally entering an occupied dwelling, 4th Amendment infringements.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:56 am

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It's a nice sentiment but more black and brown cops won't really help. The rot cuts across racial lines.


I'm guessing it goes both ways with individual cops but cancels out even at the precinct level. Two minority cops together probably favor people who look like them, but insert a white cop into that team and the 'cops of color' will actually be harsher on their own. Precisely to demonstrate that they're NOT racist.

Maybe there is less 'positive' racism with mixed teams, and that would be a benefit because white citizens would get a taste of what it's like to be treated with Zero Tolerance.


Racism isn't the only motivator though of police brutality. Personally when I've dealt with shitty cops, I felt like their behavior wasn't driven by them personally hating my race but instead was driven by them being psychotic and narcissistic power trippers who enjoyed inflicting harm on people who didn't have the resources to fight them. The reason having more black or brown cops won't necessarily help is because it isnt like you're either racist and brutal or otherwise alright. Detroit stands as proof of that. Back in the 90s you had cops burglarizing peoples homes and beating people down left and right. It wasn't cause they hated black people (considering many of them were black themselves) but just because they could. The main thing that unifies all police brutality, regardless of motive, is the police know they can get away with it.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:57 am

Vassenor wrote:Car ploughs into demonstrators in Minnesota, killing 1

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A woman was killed and another person was injured after being struck by a car during a protest in Minneapolis’ Uptown neighborhood where a Black man was fatally shot earlier this month during an arrest attempt, police said Monday.

The suspect was pulled from his car by protesters after the 11:39 p.m. Sunday crash and is now in custody and being treated for injuries at a hospital, police said on Twitter. Police did not say how the man was hurt or give the extent of his injuries.

His motive was not immediately known. A statement from police said a preliminary investigation indicated that the use of drugs or alcohol by the driver may be a contributing factor in the crash.

Police earlier said that three protesters had been injured, but later revised that number to two, including the woman who died.

There had been ongoing protests in Uptown since the June 3 shooting of Winston Boogie Smith Jr., a 32-year-old father of three, by members of a federal U.S. Marshals Service task force.

Authorities have said Smith, who was wanted on a weapons violation, fired a gun before deputies fatally shot him in Minneapolis, a city on edge since George Floyd’s death more than a year ago under an officer’s knee and the more recent fatal police shooting of Daunte Wright in a nearby suburb.

Members of the U.S. Marshals Fugitive Task Force were trying to arrest Smith on a warrant for allegedly being a felon in possession of a gun, authorities said. The Marshals Service said in a statement that Smith, who was in a parked vehicle, didn’t comply with law enforcement and “produced a handgun resulting in task force members firing upon the subject.”

Smith died at the scene. State investigators said Smith’s passenger, a 27-year-old woman, was treated for injuries from glass debris. The woman, however, said she never saw a gun on Smith or in the vehicle, her attorneys said last week — contradicting investigators’ claims about Smith’s actions.

There has been tension between police and residents since the deaths of Floyd, a Black man who died last year after he was pinned to the ground by Minneapolis officers, and Wright, a Black motorist who was fatally shot in April by an officer in the nearby suburb of Brooklyn Center.


I'm sure the right wing media will seek to find a way to blame the protesters for this.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:01 am

Anyone see that scene in this DBZ anime where Pikkon beats Frieza and King Cold in Hell with one punch?

People should perhaps recognize that for better or worse, this is more or less a policeman's job figuratively speaking.

Some villain or antagonist causes trouble or a scene, they get the call, and when they arrive its up to the cops there to use whatever force is needed to bring the problem to heel if it should be necessary. It is just that sometimes the force is lethal while at other times its not. It depends on what happens.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:03 am


Sounds like pro-cop terrorism.
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Postby Austreylia » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:13 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I'm sure the right wing media will seek to find a way to blame the protesters for this.

The right wing media...? That just consists of Fox News, so I wouldn't worry.

Every single other media outlet will repeat stuff that you'll feel comfortable parroting.
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Postby Dogmeat » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:15 am

Saiwania wrote:Anyone see that scene in this DBZ anime where Pikkon beats Frieza and King Cold in Hell with one punch?

People should perhaps recognize that for better or worse, this is more or less a policeman's job figuratively speaking.

Some villain or antagonist causes trouble or a scene, they get the call, and when they arrive its up to the cops there to use whatever force is needed to bring the problem to heel if it should be necessary. It is just that sometimes the force is lethal while at other times its not. It depends on what happens.

Well that's certainly the dumbest take I've heard on police work in a while.
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Postby Austreylia » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:17 am

Dogmeat wrote:Well that's certainly the dumbest take I've heard on police work in a while.

You clearly haven't paid attention to some other posters here.

I saw one prominent anti-cop poster say that cops should try to use non-lethal force on a man who was ramming them with a car whilst firing a machine-pistol at them.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:19 am

Austreylia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I'm sure the right wing media will seek to find a way to blame the protesters for this.

The right wing media...? That just consists of Fox News, so I wouldn't worry.

Every single other media outlet will repeat stuff that you'll feel comfortable parroting.

There is more right wing media that just Fox News. Do you think that Ben Shapiro is a communist? Or that his show doesn't count as "media"?
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Ifreann wrote:There is more right wing media that just Fox News. Do you think that Ben Shapiro is a communist? Or that his show doesn't count as "media"?

I wouldn't say that Ben Shapiro counts as an outlet of the mass media.

Fox News is the only prominent right-wing media outlet.

And then the left has pretty much every other news outlet, facebook, twitter, reddit, snapchat and so on.
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Ifreann wrote:There is more right wing media that just Fox News. Do you think that Ben Shapiro is a communist? Or that his show doesn't count as "media"?

I wouldn't say that Ben Shapiro counts as an outlet of the mass media.

Fox News is the only prominent right-wing media outlet.

And then the left has pretty much every other news outlet, facebook, twitter, reddit, snapchat and so on.

Ben Shapiro is consistently the most shared media person on facebook.
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Austreylia wrote:And then the left has pretty much every other news outlet,

Bro did you see Newsmax, OANN, Breitbart, and stuff?

facebook,

Lel right-wingers (especially Trump supporters) are in, like, every popular left-wing news posts' comment section. Before his ban, Trump was also quite prolific in spreading election falsehoods through Facebook, further amplified by his supporters.

twitter,

Joe Biden's tweets are riddled with "WiN a ReAl ElEcTiOn" and "sLeEpY jOe" replies it's almost comical if it isn't very sad. Conservative pundits and politicians also still exist and maintain quite a large presence.

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Bro have you heard of r/The_Donald (banned but nonetheless they once existed and was very active), r/Conservative, r/Libertarian and so on?
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:39 am

Remember that Twitter flat out refused to ban far-right commentators and agitators from its platform. But is still controlled by the left somehow.
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Postby Austreylia » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:39 am

Picairn wrote:Bro did you see Newsmax, OANN, Breitbart, and stuff?

I don't deem any of those "mass media".

Lel right-wingers (especially Trump supporters) are in, like, every popular left-wing news posts' comment section. Before his ban, Trump was also quite prolific in spreading election falsehoods through Facebook, further amplified by his supporters.

So...? The same thing occurs with leftists commenting on right-wingers posts. The only difference is that facebook promotes the leftist figureheads and talking points.

Joe Biden's tweets are riddled with "WiN a ReAl ElEcTiOn" and "sLeEpY jOe" replies it's almost comical if it isn't very sad. Conservative pundits and politicians also still exist and maintain quite a large presence.

Again; so...? Leftists do the same under the posts of right-wingers. Not to mention twitters trend of using spoilers to signal things that they deem misinformation, which doesn't ever happen to leftists, no matter how transcendent of reality their claims or talking points are.

Bro have you heard of r/The_Donald (banned but nonetheless they once existed and was very active), r/Conservative, r/Libertarian and so on?

Bro, have you heard of r/publicfreakouts, r/murderedbywords, r/makesmesmile, r/pics, r/news and r/politics?

All of which are usually in pole position in the popular section.
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