US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[The Republic of Fore]

Rioting is a crime, the first amendment doesn't protect it.

Murder is a crime, and not a part of law enforcement tactics.

A federal judge on Friday ordered police in Columbus, Ohio, to stop using force against nonviolent protesters in the city as part of a preliminary injunction that denounced tactics of officers who the judge said ran “amok” against demonstrators following George Floyd’s death last summer in Minneapolis.

In an 88-page opinion, Judge Algenon L. Marbley of the Southern District of Ohio described the physical violence, tear gas and pepper spray used by Columbus police as “the sad tale of officers, clothed with the awesome power of the state, run amok.”

Marbley said that authorities often used force “random and indiscriminately” against peaceful protesters in Columbus without provocation.

Marbley’s ruling favored 26 plaintiffs who sued the city after taking part in the demonstrations last summer, alleging that officers responded to protesters who posed no threat of violence with excessive use of force. The lawsuit, which was filed last July, alleged that officers used pepper spray and tear gas and assaulted protesters with a sound cannon, batons, and rubber and wooden bullets.

Columbus isn’t the only city to come under fire for how its police handled racial justice protests. The Los Angeles Police Department was also recently found to have mishandled protests last summer in the wake of Floyd’s death. An independent report found that officers illegally detained protesters and struck people who had committed no crimes with rubber bullets and batons.

Columbus police may not use tear gas, rubber bullets on peaceful protesters after running ‘amok’, judge rules

Considering that law enforcement have used tear gas on peaceful protests - notably not riots - I would say it's a bad idea to switch tear gas for bullets.

Your failure to understand that protests aren't riots, and that protests are protected by the second amendment, is concerning.

Here's more examples of hos state agents also failed to respect the constitutionally guaranteed rights of US citizens:
Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op

The protest was peaceful — then the cops arrived. (Then the police shot tear gas.)

Ferguson unrest: Police 'used tear gas on peaceful protesters'

Heavily armed riot police break up peaceful violin vigil for young black man killed by fellow officers

Rare exceptions aren't worth worrying about. They chose to go to protests. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[The Republic of Fore]

They're free to do whatever they want. I'm just not going to shed a tear when it lands them a nice prison cell.

So you agree they have no other choice.
Pity. I was hoping for people to have an idea between "they should just lie back and take it until the white man says it stops" and "RIOT".

I don't agree to that at all. They have a choice to not riot or protest. It won't achieve anything anyway. OH "police reform" bills are getting passed. And people are still getting killed by cops.

[The Rich Port]

Murder is a crime, and not a part of law enforcement tactics.

A federal judge on Friday ordered police in Columbus, Ohio, to stop using force against nonviolent protesters in the city as part of a preliminary injunction that denounced tactics of officers who the judge said ran “amok” against demonstrators following George Floyd’s death last summer in Minneapolis.

In an 88-page opinion, Judge Algenon L. Marbley of the Southern District of Ohio described the physical violence, tear gas and pepper spray used by Columbus police as “the sad tale of officers, clothed with the awesome power of the state, run amok.”

Marbley said that authorities often used force “random and indiscriminately” against peaceful protesters in Columbus without provocation.

Marbley’s ruling favored 26 plaintiffs who sued the city after taking part in the demonstrations last summer, alleging that officers responded to protesters who posed no threat of violence with excessive use of force. The lawsuit, which was filed last July, alleged that officers used pepper spray and tear gas and assaulted protesters with a sound cannon, batons, and rubber and wooden bullets.

Columbus isn’t the only city to come under fire for how its police handled racial justice protests. The Los Angeles Police Department was also recently found to have mishandled protests last summer in the wake of Floyd’s death. An independent report found that officers illegally detained protesters and struck people who had committed no crimes with rubber bullets and batons.

Columbus police may not use tear gas, rubber bullets on peaceful protesters after running ‘amok’, judge rules

Considering that law enforcement have used tear gas on peaceful protests - notably not riots - I would say it's a bad idea to switch tear gas for bullets.

Your failure to understand that protests aren't riots, and that protests are protected by the second amendment, is concerning.

Here's more examples of hos state agents also failed to respect the constitutionally guaranteed rights of US citizens:
Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op

The protest was peaceful — then the cops arrived. (Then the police shot tear gas.)

Ferguson unrest: Police 'used tear gas on peaceful protesters'

Heavily armed riot police break up peaceful violin vigil for young black man killed by fellow officers

Rare exceptions aren't worth worrying about. They chose to go to protests. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Oh man that contradictory fascist rhetoric.

I can already feel myself goose-stepping. My legs are kicking up in my bed and not in the good way.

Also, "rare exceptions" when police brutality is on TV now 24/7 because the media isn't running out of stories any time soon.

[The Republic of Fore]

Rare exceptions aren't worth worrying about. They chose to go to protests. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

Oh man that contradictory fascist rhetoric.

I can already feel myself goose-stepping. My legs are kicking up in my bed and not in the good way.

Also, "rare exceptions" when police brutality is on TV now 24/7 because the media isn't running out of stories any time soon.

It's on 24/7 because the media likes lying and exaggerating to generate hate clicks. Ask the kids from Covington catholic highschool.

[Gravlen]

Murder is a crime, and not a part of law enforcement tactics.

A federal judge on Friday ordered police in Columbus, Ohio, to stop using force against nonviolent protesters in the city as part of a preliminary injunction that denounced tactics of officers who the judge said ran “amok” against demonstrators following George Floyd’s death last summer in Minneapolis.

In an 88-page opinion, Judge Algenon L. Marbley of the Southern District of Ohio described the physical violence, tear gas and pepper spray used by Columbus police as “the sad tale of officers, clothed with the awesome power of the state, run amok.”

Marbley said that authorities often used force “random and indiscriminately” against peaceful protesters in Columbus without provocation.

Marbley’s ruling favored 26 plaintiffs who sued the city after taking part in the demonstrations last summer, alleging that officers responded to protesters who posed no threat of violence with excessive use of force. The lawsuit, which was filed last July, alleged that officers used pepper spray and tear gas and assaulted protesters with a sound cannon, batons, and rubber and wooden bullets.

Columbus isn’t the only city to come under fire for how its police handled racial justice protests. The Los Angeles Police Department was also recently found to have mishandled protests last summer in the wake of Floyd’s death. An independent report found that officers illegally detained protesters and struck people who had committed no crimes with rubber bullets and batons.

Columbus police may not use tear gas, rubber bullets on peaceful protesters after running ‘amok’, judge rules

Considering that law enforcement have used tear gas on peaceful protests - notably not riots - I would say it's a bad idea to switch tear gas for bullets.

Your failure to understand that protests aren't riots, and that protests are protected by the second amendment, is concerning.

Here's more examples of hos state agents also failed to respect the constitutionally guaranteed rights of US citizens:
Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op

The protest was peaceful — then the cops arrived. (Then the police shot tear gas.)

Ferguson unrest: Police 'used tear gas on peaceful protesters'

Heavily armed riot police break up peaceful violin vigil for young black man killed by fellow officers

Rare exceptions aren't worth worrying about. They chose to go to protests. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

"They chose to use their constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech. Play stupid games win stupid prizes."

I see you have no respect for fundamental rights, and that you're in active opposition to free speech.

[The Rich Port]

"They chose to use their constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech. Play stupid games win stupid prizes."

I see you have no respect for fundamental rights, and that you're in active opposition to free speech.

And for someone who cares so much about the mischaracterization of the racist kids from Covington, it's apparently selective what kind of mischaracterization they care about.

Which yeah, the Covington kids didn't instigate the situation... But they're still racist.

Which yeah, not happy about Trump having something semi-legitimate to fucking gripe about until the end of fucking time.

And the Sandmann kid got hired by Mitch McConnell... I'm sure he's lovely.

[Phenix Springs]

"They chose to use their constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech. Play stupid games win stupid prizes."

I see you have no respect for fundamental rights, and that you're in active opposition to free speech.

And for someone who cares so much about the mischaracterization of the racist kids from Covington, it's apparently selective what kind of mischaracterization they care about.

Which yeah, the Covington kids didn't instigate the situation... But they're still racist.

In what way were they racist?

[Grinning Dragon]

And for someone who cares so much about the mischaracterization of the racist kids from Covington, it's apparently selective what kind of mischaracterization they care about.

Which yeah, the Covington kids didn't instigate the situation... But they're still racist.

In what way were they racist?

As far as I know, the only racist group there that day were those black israelite cunts.

[Phenix Springs]

In what way were they racist?

As far as I know, the only racist group there that day were those black Israelites.

I may or may not agree with you, but you should perhaps tone down the language.

[Palcania]

Segregated?

Good thing I live in Italy, its not as retarded as the USA.

Don't you guys literally not like your own countrymen from the south? Italy has plenty of racism of its own against black folks, Syrian refugees, Albanians, Sicilians and gypsies.

I've never seen it.

Sicilians are Italians, Syrians were all over europe, so its not just Italy, racism to blacks, I've never seen it, and Albanians? Maybe, But I haven't seen that.

Gypsies? You mean Roma?

Usually, and I mean sadly. They have been segregated.

Theres differences from North and South Italy btw.

North Italy has always been richer and more industrial.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Which has been tried. And while some progress has certainly been made, it took many decades.

For some reason people seem to be unwilling to accept more decades of being discriminated against up to the level of being friviously killed by the state.

So.. what is your FASTER solution ?

Government is slow, but the most moral and correct way to achieve change is though peaceful means. As an Asian American, my family members were interned during the war, but though peacefully protesting, working with representatives, and petitioning the government as well as though court cases, they all lived to see reparations and a formal apology.

It may not be the fastest solution, but violence against one's own government or people is wrong, especially when the government seeks to promote change and equality.

There are some misconceptions about injustices nowadays and people rush to violence before they know the facts.

The government doesn't seek to promote change though. Not this one anyways.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Murder is a crime, and not a part of law enforcement tactics.

A federal judge on Friday ordered police in Columbus, Ohio, to stop using force against nonviolent protesters in the city as part of a preliminary injunction that denounced tactics of officers who the judge said ran “amok” against demonstrators following George Floyd’s death last summer in Minneapolis.

In an 88-page opinion, Judge Algenon L. Marbley of the Southern District of Ohio described the physical violence, tear gas and pepper spray used by Columbus police as “the sad tale of officers, clothed with the awesome power of the state, run amok.”

Marbley said that authorities often used force “random and indiscriminately” against peaceful protesters in Columbus without provocation.

Marbley’s ruling favored 26 plaintiffs who sued the city after taking part in the demonstrations last summer, alleging that officers responded to protesters who posed no threat of violence with excessive use of force. The lawsuit, which was filed last July, alleged that officers used pepper spray and tear gas and assaulted protesters with a sound cannon, batons, and rubber and wooden bullets.

Columbus isn’t the only city to come under fire for how its police handled racial justice protests. The Los Angeles Police Department was also recently found to have mishandled protests last summer in the wake of Floyd’s death. An independent report found that officers illegally detained protesters and struck people who had committed no crimes with rubber bullets and batons.

Columbus police may not use tear gas, rubber bullets on peaceful protesters after running ‘amok’, judge rules

Considering that law enforcement have used tear gas on peaceful protests - notably not riots - I would say it's a bad idea to switch tear gas for bullets.

Your failure to understand that protests aren't riots, and that protests are protected by the second amendment, is concerning.

Here's more examples of hos state agents also failed to respect the constitutionally guaranteed rights of US citizens:
Peaceful Protesters Tear-Gassed To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op

The protest was peaceful — then the cops arrived. (Then the police shot tear gas.)

Ferguson unrest: Police 'used tear gas on peaceful protesters'

Heavily armed riot police break up peaceful violin vigil for young black man killed by fellow officers

Rare exceptions aren't worth worrying about. They chose to go to protests. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

It isnt rare and we have a thing called the first amendment. The police ought to fucking learn what that is so they can do their job right for like the first time ever.

[Ifreann]

Rioting is a crime, the first amendment doesn't protect it.

So what are the people to do then ? Just wait for society to change sometime in the next few centuries, accepting they will be treated as throwaways in the meantime?

I'd suspect that someone who wants the police to commit mass murder doesn't want society to change at all.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Can we just appreciate how bad of an idea it is to say that American cops should start live firing on protestors lol, like my guy do you how many hundreds of millions of guns are in this country. Even a small upsurge in violence would make The Troubles look like a civil disagreement.

[Fahran]

As W. Kamau Bell has pointed out, after a 19-year-old woman told a California TV station she had had sex with dozens of local police officers, including when she was underage, to avoid arrest, four -- FOUR -- of them were fired and one -- ONE -- was prosecuted. That's not a labor union. That's a criminal gang.

Given the history of organized labor, it's not impossible to be both at the same time. Police departments revealed to have systematic issues likely need to have labor contracts legally suspended and officers forcibly discharged in order to implement reforms and shifts in organizational culture. The same thing should be done whenever a trade union begins to contribute to malfeasance while impeding efforts to address problems.

[Fahran]

So what are the people to do then ? Just wait for society to change sometime in the next few centuries, accepting they will be treated as throwaways in the meantime?

They, of course, may elect to riot. And societal institutions may elect to implement changes while dispersing them when they become a nuissance.

So.. what is your FASTER solution ?

Mandatory desegregation.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Can we just appreciate how bad of an idea it is to say that American cops should start live firing on protestors lol, like my guy do you how many hundreds of millions of guns are in this country. Even a small upsurge in violence would make The Troubles look like a civil disagreement.

If the police began killing protesters left and right, we would have a Dallas sniper attack every week. Like if you care at all about the lives of police officers, you wouldn't be encouraging them to throw it away by opening that can of worms.

[The Republic of Fore]

Rare exceptions aren't worth worrying about. They chose to go to protests. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

It isnt rare and we have a thing called the first amendment. The police ought to fucking learn what that is so they can do their job right for like the first time ever.

People shouldn't protest if they don't want to deal with the consequences.

[The Republic of Fore]

Can we just appreciate how bad of an idea it is to say that American cops should start live firing on protestors lol, like my guy do you how many hundreds of millions of guns are in this country. Even a small upsurge in violence would make The Troubles look like a civil disagreement.

If the police began killing protesters left and right, we would have a Dallas sniper attack every week. Like if you care at all about the lives of police officers, you wouldn't be encouraging them to throw it away by opening that can of worms.

Farmer joe with his hunting rifle isn't squat compared to a PATRIOT missile launcher. People need to stop with that fantasy.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

If the police began killing protesters left and right, we would have a Dallas sniper attack every week. Like if you care at all about the lives of police officers, you wouldn't be encouraging them to throw it away by opening that can of worms.

Farmer joe with his hunting rifle isn't squat compared to a PATRIOT missile launcher. People need to stop with that fantasy.

Which is why we crushed the mujahedeen in a week after we invaded Afghanistan and happily ever after...oh wait.

[Conservative Republic Of Huang]

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[Gravlen]

It isnt rare and we have a thing called the first amendment. The police ought to fucking learn what that is so they can do their job right for like the first time ever.

People shouldn't protest if they don't want to deal with the consequences.

"Don't use your free speech, or government agents might bust your head in" isn't a particularly compelling argument.

[Fahran]

Farmer joe with his hunting rifle isn't squat compared to a PATRIOT missile launcher. People need to stop with that fantasy.

I mean... That's not really true. We still haven't wiped out insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan after twenty years. A sustained insurgency with substantial popular support could destabilize the government fighting it quite easily because you actually need boots on the ground to fight it. That means soldiers, some who might sympathize with the insurgents, getting shot and shooting back, as often as not at women and children.

If you just massacre peaceful protestors repeatedly, that's a lot more likely to happen given our current atmosphere. Not to mention massacring people is a moral evil.