US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Ifreann]

His resistance to being killed does not justify restraining him from resisting being killed.

He wasn't resisting being killed, he was resisting being placed into the patrol car.

If he had just gone into the patrol car without flailing around and screaming, they wouldn't have had to restrain him on the ground.

They didn't have to restrain him. They didn't have to arrest him. They could have just made a note about the place that got the fake twenty and done nothing else, just waited to see if more fake money shows up.

[Warriors of Truth]

His resistance to being killed does not justify restraining him from resisting being killed.

He wasn't resisting being killed, he was resisting being placed into the patrol car.

If he had just gone into the patrol car without flailing around and screaming, they wouldn't have had to restrain him on the ground.

YES, ABSOLUTELY THIS

the modern left just wants to burn down the cities that right-wing people built, they need to be stopped

[San Lumen]

His resistance to being killed does not justify restraining him from resisting being killed.

He wasn't resisting being killed, he was resisting being placed into the patrol car.

If he had just gone into the patrol car without flailing around and screaming, they wouldn't have had to restrain him on the ground.

Floyd could have just gotten a ticket for a counterfeit money. There was no reason to arrest or restrain him and there certainly was no justification for his death and that's why Chauvin is going to jail.

You said repeatedly you wanted him acquitted to spite people. What kind of messed up argument is that?

[San Lumen]

He wasn't resisting being killed, he was resisting being placed into the patrol car.

If he had just gone into the patrol car without flailing around and screaming, they wouldn't have had to restrain him on the ground.

YES, ABSOLUTELY THIS

the modern left just wants to burn down the cities that right-wing people built, they need to be stopped

Why was arrest and restraining needed over a counterfeit bill?

Utter rubbish.A minority looting and burned business. How do you know cities were built by right wing people?

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

It's not clear to me how someone supposedly minutes from death because of a fentanyl overdose simultaneously needs restraining beyond a pair of handcuffs? In opiate overdoses people just nod out.

[Austreylia]

A minority looting and burned business.

Yeah, a minority of people caused billions of dollars worth of damage and dozens of deaths.

[Vassenor]

He wasn't resisting being killed, he was resisting being placed into the patrol car.

If he had just gone into the patrol car without flailing around and screaming, they wouldn't have had to restrain him on the ground.

YES, ABSOLUTELY THIS

the modern left just wants to burn down the cities that right-wing people built, they need to be stopped

[citation needed]

[Aspistan]

A minority looting and burned business.

Yeah, a minority of people caused billions of dollars worth of damage and dozens of deaths.

And yet none of that adds up to the life of George Floyd

[Vassenor]

It's not clear to me how someone supposedly minutes from death because of a fentanyl overdose simultaneously needs restraining beyond a pair of handcuffs? In opiate overdoses people just nod out.

You're not supposed to question why someone overdosing on a tranquiliser was so agitated.

[Christian Confederation]

He was high on a variety of Drugs, had severe health Problems, and was resisting Arrest. Was his death justified? No and the Officers involved deserve to be punished for there incompetence. But this was mo murder because murder requires intent to kill. He never intended to kill George Floyd. The Coroner said if George Floyd was found dead at home it would've been marked Overdose or heart disease. The Jury convicted guilty on all charges in fear there homes and city would be burned down if they convicted on manslaughter or murder 3.

[Gravlen]

His resistance to being killed does not justify restraining him from resisting being killed.

He wasn't resisting being killed, he was resisting being placed into the patrol car.

If he had just gone into the patrol car without flailing around and screaming, they wouldn't have had to restrain him on the ground.

If only Chauvin had respected the law and not violated police procedures, he wouldn't be a convicted murderer today.

[Austreylia]

And yet none of that adds up to the life of George Floyd

George Floyds life was worth billions of dollars and 20+ people being killed? What...?

[Galloism]

Caution: the following is graphic real footage

https://news.yahoo.com/columbus-police- ... 19381.html

Here is the body cam footage of the Bryant shooting.

It's really hard to tell what happened right up front. As the video starts, there is a girl in pink holding a dog and not seemingly doing much of anything. We can see Ma'Khia pushes/shoves one person to the ground and makes them roll, but it's impossible to see what precipitated that. A man in the frame kicks this person while they are on the ground, while Ma'Khia stands up, turns towards the girl in pink, and appears to try and stab her. At this point, the police officer shot her.

The officer barely got there before shit went down - from the time the officer closed the door til the first person got pushed to the ground and kicked was less than 10 seconds. Less than 5 seconds later, Ma'Khia tried to stab the girl in pink, and the police officer shot her.

From the time the officer closed the door until he fired was about 13 seconds.

This one is a lot more murky than a lot of the videos we've seen recently (Floyd, Rittenhouse, Toledo). Perhaps a taser would have been sufficient, but the officer chose his gun instead. Perhaps it wouldn't. Hard to say.

[Austreylia]

https://news.yahoo.com/columbus-police-release-graphic-bodycam-064419381.html

Here is the body cam footage of the Bryant shooting.

It's very clear cut.

She was holding a knife. He told her three times to drop it. She tried to stab another girl. Officer opens fire.

Open and shut.

[Aspistan]

And yet none of that adds up to the life of George Floyd

George Floyds life was worth billions of dollars and 20+ people being killed? What...?

Tell me then, how much money is a black man's life worth?

[The Alma Mater]

Utter rubbish.A minority looting and burned business. How do you know cities were built by right wing people?

I am actually genuinely interested in this. Almost everywhere "labour" is a left wing party. Left wing ideologies are aimed at giving workers more power - up to them owning the means of production.

Why would the USA be so fundamentally different that "the right" are the builders ?

[Vassenor]

He was high on a variety of Drugs, had severe health Problems, and was resisting Arrest. Was his death justified? No and the Officers involved deserve to be punished for there incompetence. But this was mo murder because murder requires intent to kill. He never intended to kill George Floyd. The Coroner said if George Floyd was found dead at home it would've been marked Overdose or heart disease. The Jury convicted guilty on all charges in fear there homes and city would be burned down if they convicted on manslaughter or murder 3.

Meanwhile, in reality...

[Galloism]

https://news.yahoo.com/columbus-police-release-graphic-bodycam-064419381.html

Here is the body cam footage of the Bryant shooting.

It's very clear cut.

She was holding a knife. He told her three times to drop it. She tried to stab another girl. Officer opens fire.

Open and shut.

Sorry, but given your opinion on Floyd, your opinion is garbage, biased, and means nothing.

[Austreylia]

Sorry, but given your opinion on Floyd, your opinion is garbage, biased, and means nothing.

That's all well and good, but you can't argue with it when its proven by the video you linked.

[The Alma Mater]

George Floyds life was worth billions of dollars and 20+ people being killed? What...?

Tell me then, how much money is a black man's life worth?

And more importantly - is that three/fifths of his own value ?

[Galloism]

Sorry, but given your opinion on Floyd, your opinion is garbage, biased, and means nothing.

That's all well and good, but you can't argue with it when its proven by the video you linked.

The question is would lesser force have been sufficient. I don't think there's any way you can avoid the conclusion that force was necessary, the question is was this level of force necessary.

[San Lumen]

He was high on a variety of Drugs, had severe health Problems, and was resisting Arrest. Was his death justified? No and the Officers involved deserve to be punished for there incompetence. But this was mo murder because murder requires intent to kill. He never intended to kill George Floyd. The Coroner said if George Floyd was found dead at home it would've been marked Overdose or heart disease. The Jury convicted guilty on all charges in fear there homes and city would be burned down if they convicted on manslaughter or murder 3.

Prove it.

[Austreylia]

The question is would lesser force have been sufficient. I don't think there's any way you can avoid the conclusion that force was necessary, the question is was this level of force necessary.

I certainly think so. She was just milliseconds away from plunging a knife into somebody, and oftentimes, people just tank shots from a tazer.

[Ifreann]

A minority looting and burned business.

Yeah, a minority of people caused billions of dollars worth of damage and dozens of deaths.

You say this as if you think it sounds impossible.

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He was high on a variety of Drugs, had severe health Problems, and was resisting Arrest. Was his death justified? No and the Officers involved deserve to be punished for there incompetence. But this was mo murder because murder requires intent to kill. He never intended to kill George Floyd.

Personally I don't think it's remotely credible that Chauvin could have kneeled on Floyd's neck for so long without intending to kill him.

The Coroner said if George Floyd was found dead at home it would've been marked Overdose or heart disease.

If he'd been allowed to go home then he probably wouldn't have died.

The Jury convicted guilty on all charges in fear there homes and city would be burned down if they convicted on manslaughter or murder 3.

They did convict him of manslaughter and murder 3.

[San Lumen]

The question is would lesser force have been sufficient. I don't think there's any way you can avoid the conclusion that force was necessary, the question is was this level of force necessary.

I certainly think so. She was just milliseconds away from plunging a knife into somebody, and oftentimes, people just tank shots from a tazer.

and you know this how? Where you there?