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Postby His Excellence » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:34 pm

Senkaku wrote:This is the US, we're not going to let the proles loot anything too nice. If they're quick enough they can enjoy the crumbs.

Yeah, because at no point in any of these protests were people looting flat screen TVs, Apple stores, designer label clothing and shoe stores, etc.

Are you even trying to make any actual point, or are you just amusing yourself?

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:34 pm

His Excellence wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Nah you don't deny white supremacy exists. You just draw a false equivalency between white supremacists (who make up 71% of violence extremism in America and seek to genocide minorities) and left wing demonstrators who don't kill nearly as many people and who have legitimate grievances with an evil and destructive system.

Both sides amiright?

You got any source for that 71% stat? Because that sure sounds rife for picking and choosing what crimes to include.


It's funny because even the far left whackos that Wikipedia cites for domestic terrorism only say 59%
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:44 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Postauthoritarian America wrote:State troopers, National Guard present at Brooklyn Center PD

God Bless the Minnesota National Guard.


There's a cold drizzle falling and a coating of snow expected tomorrow morning so it may be the weather as much if not more than the Guard or the troopers. In any case news feeds showing a much reduced and dispersed crowd, cars driving away from the scene, etc.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:46 pm

If only they the troops out like this in Washington. Anyway. How does one mix up the weapon and taser? Aren’t they on different sides of the belt?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:55 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Postauthoritarian America wrote:State troopers, National Guard present at Brooklyn Center PD

God Bless the Minnesota National Guard.


I saw them shoot people on their porch with paintballs last summer. Fuck the MNG.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:58 pm

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Postauthoritarian America wrote:MSNBC reporting looting at Dollar Tree store near Brooklyn Center PD HQ


Looting at Dollar Tree. Am I hearing that right?


Well, hopefully the worst of the damage and violence can be prevented.

I'd really hate to have another controversial situation involving people with guns being somewhere they shouldn't be.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:58 pm

His Excellence wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Nah you don't deny white supremacy exists. You just draw a false equivalency between white supremacists (who make up 71% of violence extremism in America and seek to genocide minorities) and left wing demonstrators who don't kill nearly as many people and who have legitimate grievances with an evil and destructive system.

Both sides amiright?

You got any source for that 71% stat? Because that sure sounds rife for picking and choosing what crimes to include.


According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, right-wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 25 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right-wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 119, respectively). However, 41 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism ... ted_States

If you have stats that say otherwise for the same time period, feel free to share. But it's just the truth that right wing terrorism is the majority of lethal terror incidents in America.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:15 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
His Excellence wrote:You got any source for that 71% stat? Because that sure sounds rife for picking and choosing what crimes to include.


According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, "of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, right-wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 25 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right-wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 119, respectively). However, 41 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism ... ted_States

If you have stats that say otherwise for the same time period, feel free to share. But it's just the truth that right wing terrorism is the majority of lethal terror incidents in America.

Hell, the ADL backs this up, with right-wing extremists contributing 76% of all extremism-related murders over the past decade
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and 60% of all extremist-related killings were by white supremacists
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:30 pm


25 years of experience and the talking point is that she can't tell a gun apart from a taser?

Postauthoritarian America wrote:State troopers, National Guard present at Brooklyn Center PD

Here we go again.

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Senkaku wrote:I think NWR is just here to say the most incendiary thing possible (send in Guardies to crush peaceful demonstrators, arrest everyone violating a curfew, execute everyone who was at the Capitol) and see what people will take seriously if he tries to couch it with "but BLM tho" at the end of every other post.


Well, I don’t think so because I strongly believe that Black Lives Matter. I do believe that Black people and other POCs are not treated equally when it comes to law enforcement. I’ve stated that I believe that while supremacist have infiltrated law enforcement and we need to root them out. However, what I don’t believe in is looting and rioting. The curfew is in place because of the violence and unrest in the city that I happen to live in. The curfew wasn’t announced by our progressive Governor just to be mean. It was to preserve safety and law and order.

White supremacists infiltrate the police the same way sewage infiltrates sewers. They were designed that way on purpose.

for the record i'm not saying that all sewer water will get you sick, or conversely that [all x are y].

The Black Forrest wrote:If only they the troops out like this in Washington. Anyway. How does one mix up the weapon and taser? Aren’t they on different sides of the belt?

Claiming incompetence is a step up from saying they "had a bad day", but police spokespeople are doing a horrible job with their talking points.
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Postby CoraSpia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:43 pm

Wtf is this?
I've never been a fan of the police but firing someone for calling for due process seems like an unhelpful kneejerk reaction.
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Postby CoraSpia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:45 pm

Kowani wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism ... ted_States

If you have stats that say otherwise for the same time period, feel free to share. But it's just the truth that right wing terrorism is the majority of lethal terror incidents in America.

Hell, the ADL backs this up, with right-wing extremists contributing 76% of all extremism-related murders over the past decade
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and 60% of all extremist-related killings were by white supremacists

Take anything the ADL says with a whole bag of salt though, they love to call people extremists when they simply disagree with them ideologically.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:54 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:If only they the troops out like this in Washington. Anyway. How does one mix up the weapon and taser? Aren’t they on different sides of the belt?


Yes, it'd be hilarious if someone wasn't shot because of it.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:57 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:If only they the troops out like this in Washington. Anyway. How does one mix up the weapon and taser? Aren’t they on different sides of the belt?


Yes, it'd be hilarious if someone wasn't shot because of it.


How does one not realize they are holding a gun instead of a taser?

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Postby Ayytaly » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yes, it'd be hilarious if someone wasn't shot because of it.


How does one not realize they are holding a gun instead of a taser?

I doubt they didn't notice.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Yes, it'd be hilarious if someone wasn't shot because of it.


How does one not realize they are holding a gun instead of a taser?

a tazer's like 4 times lighter than a glock, and you have to draw it with your weaker hand
i don't get how on earth this worked
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:03 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:If only they the troops out like this in Washington. Anyway. How does one mix up the weapon and taser? Aren’t they on different sides of the belt?


The sheer weight disparity between the two is what astounds me. Anybody who has held both a handgun and a taser in their life at least once or twice probably can differentiate between the two on touch/grip alone.

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
How does one not realize they are holding a gun instead of a taser?

a tazer's like 4 times lighter than a glock, and you have to draw it with your weaker hand
i don't get how on earth this worked


Great minds think alike, I see.
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Postby Islamic Holy Sites » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Yes, it'd be hilarious if someone wasn't shot because of it.


How does one not realize they are holding a gun instead of a taser?

Let's assume he took out the taser and tasered that person, would it still be acceptable? What was his crime?
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:04 pm

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
How does one not realize they are holding a gun instead of a taser?

a tazer's like 4 times lighter than a glock, and you have to draw it with your weaker hand
i don't get how on earth this worked


Nor do I. Plus they look totally different. Either the officer is a complete idiot or something else was at work here.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:04 pm

Esalia wrote:
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I know, damn me for wanting laws enforced. :roll:


When you want to arrest literally everyone who violated curfew, which would be a massive waste of resources and police time, for the sake of "enforcing laws", yes, it does come off as dictatorial.


To be fair, I want people who break covid-curfews without a damn good reason to be executed as well. Trying to spread disease "for fun" is rather revolting.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:04 pm

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
How does one not realize they are holding a gun instead of a taser?

Let's assume he took out the taser and tasered that person, would it still be acceptable? What was his crime?


Evading arrest I would think. They learned he had a warrant and he tried to get back in the car, zapping him in that situation is pretty normal. But to just shoot the shit out of him? Na. That chick needs to be hit with some murder charges.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:05 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Esalia wrote:
When you want to arrest literally everyone who violated curfew, which would be a massive waste of resources and police time, for the sake of "enforcing laws", yes, it does come off as dictatorial.


To be fair, I want people who break covid-curfews without a damn good reason to be executed as well. Trying to spread disease "for fun" is rather revolting.

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Postby CoraSpia » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:a tazer's like 4 times lighter than a glock, and you have to draw it with your weaker hand
i don't get how on earth this worked


Nor do I. Plus they look totally different. Either the officer is a complete idiot or something else was at work here.

My personal theory is that the officer in question or the police department is talking bullshit.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:06 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Islamic Holy Sites wrote:Let's assume he took out the taser and tasered that person, would it still be acceptable? What was his crime?


Evading arrest I would think. They learned he had a warrant and he tried to get back in the car, zapping him in that situation is pretty normal. But to just shoot the shit out of him? Na. That chick needs to be hit with some murder charges.

Hopefully there is a full investigation and if deemed appropriate is brought up on murder charges.

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:07 pm

Islamic Holy Sites wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
How does one not realize they are holding a gun instead of a taser?

Let's assume he took out the taser and tasered that person, would it still be acceptable? What was his crime?


He was resisting arrest. Granted, not a good look, but I don't subscribe to the mouth-frothing, moronic idea that an officer has the right to mag-dump on somebody evading arrest (not saying you do, just that a lot of folks do). It's the same thing with folks who try to justify the deaths of other unarmed black men, by saying "oh well they were doing criminal acts, so why feel sympathy?"

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Postby Vikanias » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:08 pm

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