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Cynetia wrote:Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

Cynetia wrote:Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

Cynetia wrote:Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

Fahran wrote:

Vassenor wrote:Who is born a cop? That's kind of a requirement for a "blue life" to be a thing.

I don't think #BlackLivesMatter and #BlueLivesMatter have to be contradictory. Folks dying due to preventable and often, if we're being frank, stupid violence is never a good thing. I'm mostly salty that people keep bringing up #BlueLives when the conversation is about #BlackLives because that's a red herring that solely distracts from the conversation at hand unless someone's actually going to make a point about cops being endangered by proposed policy changes or rhetoric.

Cynetia wrote:Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

Cynetia wrote:Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

Senkaku wrote:

Cynetia wrote:Honestly, I have no idea why tf riots have been acceptable in the first place. What good message are you sending by ruining the fucking town and destroying everything?

That if the state doesn't change its ways, you'll threaten its legitimacy and monopoly on violence?

Kowani wrote:Tennesee bill would make it a felony to obstruct sidewalks or hallways, give complete immunity from prosecution to any driver who “unintentionally causes injury or death to another person” blocking a pathway.

It also upgrades the act of blocking a “highway, street, sidewalk, railway, waterway, elevator, aisle or hallway” from a misdemeanor to a felony. Felons cannot vote in Tennessee without going through a process to regain their voting rights.

hm
wonder what this is aimed at
it's a mystery

Galloism wrote:

Gravlen wrote:I feel like the attention given to Rittenhouse has been disproportionate, but since there's various reasons for that, I'm feeding the beast with this video:

Kyle Rittenhouse Shooting: He's Not the Problem. A Legal Analysis.

It's an interesting perspective, looking a bit wider than just the specific case, and explaining a bit more about the place this case holds in the criminal justice system. That's a perspective which is more interesting to me. Here's her first video, which she references. The older video goes more directly into the case, but I didn't like as much because I felt it was too superficial.

Sorry I had to wait to get home to watch your link. I have now done so.

This video was much better than the first one (I had seen it already). I also like what she said about the grand jury and how the fact many states allow the prosecutor to skip it is a travesty (including Wisconsin).

I also liked her pointing out that most of the people mad at Kyle aren’t mad at Kyle, but at the unjust system. They want the system to punish Kyle not because he’s some monster, she pointed out how that’s not true, but he’s become a symbol of the injustice of the system. Essentially, they are being placated by the system by the system publicly being as unjust towards him as it has been against many young black teens throughout the years.

It’s a deflection strategy. If they crucify Rittenhouse to placate the crowd, they don’t have to actually do anything about what the crowd is angry about.

I thought that was very insightful.

Kowani wrote:Tennesee bill would make it a felony to obstruct sidewalks or hallways, give complete immunity from prosecution to any driver who “unintentionally causes injury or death to another person” blocking a pathway.

It also upgrades the act of blocking a “highway, street, sidewalk, railway, waterway, elevator, aisle or hallway” from a misdemeanor to a felony. Felons cannot vote in Tennessee without going through a process to regain their voting rights.

hm
wonder what this is aimed at
it's a mystery

Ifreann wrote:

Kowani wrote:Tennesee bill would make it a felony to obstruct sidewalks or hallways, give complete immunity from prosecution to any driver who “unintentionally causes injury or death to another person” blocking a pathway.

It also upgrades the act of blocking a “highway, street, sidewalk, railway, waterway, elevator, aisle or hallway” from a misdemeanor to a felony. Felons cannot vote in Tennessee without going through a process to regain their voting rights.

hm
wonder what this is aimed at
it's a mystery

Pretty concerning how badly these Republicans seem to want to kill protesters.

Ifreann wrote:

Kowani wrote:Tennesee bill would make it a felony to obstruct sidewalks or hallways, give complete immunity from prosecution to any driver who “unintentionally causes injury or death to another person” blocking a pathway.

It also upgrades the act of blocking a “highway, street, sidewalk, railway, waterway, elevator, aisle or hallway” from a misdemeanor to a felony. Felons cannot vote in Tennessee without going through a process to regain their voting rights.

hm
wonder what this is aimed at
it's a mystery

Pretty concerning how badly these Republicans seem to want to kill protesters.

In that footage, an officer can be seen driving up to a woman who is walking along the side of the road carrying a young child in her arms.

The officer stops next to her, gets out of the car and says “Did you steal from that store? Oh come on they said you stole what’d you take? Tell me the truth!” She says she didn’t steal anything and the officer says, “I don’t have time for BS so you better be quick with me.”

She puts the child down and shows the officer everything in her purse.

Holding the contents of her purse in front of him, she says, “Nothing, right?”

The officer says, “Well we’ve got to talk with them and see, so I need you to hop in the back of my car with your kid really quick and we’re going to go check.”

“No, see—sir, sir—” the woman says.

“If you didn’t steal you’re out of here, but you have to stay with me,” the officer says.

“What?” the woman says as a second police car pulls up. She runs to a nearby store and tries to enter, saying she didn’t do anything.

The officer then grabs the woman from behind, takes the child from her arms and puts the child on the ground.

The camera is shaking and out of focus and it is difficult to see what happens next, but the officer appears to force her onto the ground with her arms behind her back. He yells “Relax! Turn around so I can cuff you! … I have to cuff you!” The woman continues to yell “I did not do anything!”

“It should have stopped” when the woman showed the police she did not have anything in her purse, Board Member Arlene Brown said. “It was the officers’ actions from then on that escalated the situation, clearly putting the mother and child in stress.”

Board Member Conor Reynolds said security camera footage from the store appears to show the woman holding the child by the hand when she was pepper-sprayed.

The woman, who has not been named, was “charged with trespassing and issued an appearance ticket as the store confirmed she knocked a number of items off the shelf and refused repeated requests to leave,” Reynolds said, quoting a statement from Rochester’s chief of police.

Kowani wrote:Rochester police pepper spray, tackle woman with 3 year-old child

In that footage, an officer can be seen driving up to a woman who is walking along the side of the road carrying a young child in her arms.

The officer stops next to her, gets out of the car and says “Did you steal from that store? Oh come on they said you stole what’d you take? Tell me the truth!” She says she didn’t steal anything and the officer says, “I don’t have time for BS so you better be quick with me.”

She puts the child down and shows the officer everything in her purse.

Holding the contents of her purse in front of him, she says, “Nothing, right?”

The officer says, “Well we’ve got to talk with them and see, so I need you to hop in the back of my car with your kid really quick and we’re going to go check.”

“No, see—sir, sir—” the woman says.

“If you didn’t steal you’re out of here, but you have to stay with me,” the officer says.

“What?” the woman says as a second police car pulls up. She runs to a nearby store and tries to enter, saying she didn’t do anything.

The officer then grabs the woman from behind, takes the child from her arms and puts the child on the ground.

The camera is shaking and out of focus and it is difficult to see what happens next, but the officer appears to force her onto the ground with her arms behind her back. He yells “Relax! Turn around so I can cuff you! … I have to cuff you!” The woman continues to yell “I did not do anything!”

“It should have stopped” when the woman showed the police she did not have anything in her purse, Board Member Arlene Brown said. “It was the officers’ actions from then on that escalated the situation, clearly putting the mother and child in stress.”

Board Member Conor Reynolds said security camera footage from the store appears to show the woman holding the child by the hand when she was pepper-sprayed.

The woman, who has not been named, was “charged with trespassing and issued an appearance ticket as the store confirmed she knocked a number of items off the shelf and refused repeated requests to leave,” Reynolds said, quoting a statement from Rochester’s chief of police.

Relevant footage

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:

Kowani wrote:Rochester police pepper spray, tackle woman with 3 year-old child

In that footage, an officer can be seen driving up to a woman who is walking along the side of the road carrying a young child in her arms.

The officer stops next to her, gets out of the car and says “Did you steal from that store? Oh come on they said you stole what’d you take? Tell me the truth!” She says she didn’t steal anything and the officer says, “I don’t have time for BS so you better be quick with me.”

She puts the child down and shows the officer everything in her purse.

Holding the contents of her purse in front of him, she says, “Nothing, right?”

The officer says, “Well we’ve got to talk with them and see, so I need you to hop in the back of my car with your kid really quick and we’re going to go check.”

“No, see—sir, sir—” the woman says.

“If you didn’t steal you’re out of here, but you have to stay with me,” the officer says.

“What?” the woman says as a second police car pulls up. She runs to a nearby store and tries to enter, saying she didn’t do anything.

The officer then grabs the woman from behind, takes the child from her arms and puts the child on the ground.

The camera is shaking and out of focus and it is difficult to see what happens next, but the officer appears to force her onto the ground with her arms behind her back. He yells “Relax! Turn around so I can cuff you! … I have to cuff you!” The woman continues to yell “I did not do anything!”

“It should have stopped” when the woman showed the police she did not have anything in her purse, Board Member Arlene Brown said. “It was the officers’ actions from then on that escalated the situation, clearly putting the mother and child in stress.”

Board Member Conor Reynolds said security camera footage from the store appears to show the woman holding the child by the hand when she was pepper-sprayed.

The woman, who has not been named, was “charged with trespassing and issued an appearance ticket as the store confirmed she knocked a number of items off the shelf and refused repeated requests to leave,” Reynolds said, quoting a statement from Rochester’s chief of police.

Relevant footage

The shootings are the tip of the iceberg. The police abuse their power every day.

Kowani wrote:Rochester police pepper spray, tackle woman with 3 year-old child

In that footage, an officer can be seen driving up to a woman who is walking along the side of the road carrying a young child in her arms.

The officer stops next to her, gets out of the car and says “Did you steal from that store? Oh come on they said you stole what’d you take? Tell me the truth!” She says she didn’t steal anything and the officer says, “I don’t have time for BS so you better be quick with me.”

She puts the child down and shows the officer everything in her purse.

Holding the contents of her purse in front of him, she says, “Nothing, right?”

The officer says, “Well we’ve got to talk with them and see, so I need you to hop in the back of my car with your kid really quick and we’re going to go check.”

“No, see—sir, sir—” the woman says.

“If you didn’t steal you’re out of here, but you have to stay with me,” the officer says.

“What?” the woman says as a second police car pulls up. She runs to a nearby store and tries to enter, saying she didn’t do anything.

The officer then grabs the woman from behind, takes the child from her arms and puts the child on the ground.

The camera is shaking and out of focus and it is difficult to see what happens next, but the officer appears to force her onto the ground with her arms behind her back. He yells “Relax! Turn around so I can cuff you! … I have to cuff you!” The woman continues to yell “I did not do anything!”

“It should have stopped” when the woman showed the police she did not have anything in her purse, Board Member Arlene Brown said. “It was the officers’ actions from then on that escalated the situation, clearly putting the mother and child in stress.”

Board Member Conor Reynolds said security camera footage from the store appears to show the woman holding the child by the hand when she was pepper-sprayed.

The woman, who has not been named, was “charged with trespassing and issued an appearance ticket as the store confirmed she knocked a number of items off the shelf and refused repeated requests to leave,” Reynolds said, quoting a statement from Rochester’s chief of police.

Relevant footage

Ors Might wrote:

Kowani wrote:Rochester police pepper spray, tackle woman with 3 year-old child

In that footage, an officer can be seen driving up to a woman who is walking along the side of the road carrying a young child in her arms.

The officer stops next to her, gets out of the car and says “Did you steal from that store? Oh come on they said you stole what’d you take? Tell me the truth!” She says she didn’t steal anything and the officer says, “I don’t have time for BS so you better be quick with me.”

She puts the child down and shows the officer everything in her purse.

Holding the contents of her purse in front of him, she says, “Nothing, right?”

The officer says, “Well we’ve got to talk with them and see, so I need you to hop in the back of my car with your kid really quick and we’re going to go check.”

“No, see—sir, sir—” the woman says.

“If you didn’t steal you’re out of here, but you have to stay with me,” the officer says.

“What?” the woman says as a second police car pulls up. She runs to a nearby store and tries to enter, saying she didn’t do anything.

The officer then grabs the woman from behind, takes the child from her arms and puts the child on the ground.

The camera is shaking and out of focus and it is difficult to see what happens next, but the officer appears to force her onto the ground with her arms behind her back. He yells “Relax! Turn around so I can cuff you! … I have to cuff you!” The woman continues to yell “I did not do anything!”

“It should have stopped” when the woman showed the police she did not have anything in her purse, Board Member Arlene Brown said. “It was the officers’ actions from then on that escalated the situation, clearly putting the mother and child in stress.”

Board Member Conor Reynolds said security camera footage from the store appears to show the woman holding the child by the hand when she was pepper-sprayed.

The woman, who has not been named, was “charged with trespassing and issued an appearance ticket as the store confirmed she knocked a number of items off the shelf and refused repeated requests to leave,” Reynolds said, quoting a statement from Rochester’s chief of police.

Relevant footage

Absolutely disgusting but I’m distracted by the fact that Youtube is saying that this is a video made for kids..

Kowani wrote:Arizona House of Representatives passes bill requiring a conviction before the police can seize your assets (57-2)

Billtext here


civil forfeiture is bullshit

Kowani wrote:Protests at the George Floyd memorial in Minneapolis ahead of Derek Chauvin’s trial, one person shot dead

Kowani wrote:Protests at the George Floyd memorial in Minneapolis ahead of Derek Chauvin’s trial, one person shot dead

Kowani wrote:Protests at the George Floyd memorial in Minneapolis ahead of Derek Chauvin’s trial, one person shot dead