US Anti-Police Protests and Riots Thread III

[Albrenia]

I'd suggest soccer or dance. NSG is a surefire way to find boredom.

I have done both of those things. I like it here much more.

You should combine all three.

[Korouse]

The President, the current government and their supporters are immediate threats to my future and my democratic rights. No need to explain the concept of retribution to me. I stand by what I said - you people hold extremely naive and silly opinions.

This thread runs rampant with those lacking the intellectual capacity to converse with an individual as enlightened as yourself. It is with great displeasure that I must inform you these plebeians most likely do not have the mental capacity to comprehend Rick and Morty, and as such they are not worth your time.

Don't look at it as necessarily a mental capacity thing. This forum is too used to low-tier posts from people who think they're way too smart and way too funny, so you get things like Rick and Morty jokes without a punchline (it's a feat to make fun of a show that relies on epic bacon humor but end out coming below even that). Keep up the 20 posts a day and maybe you'll post something people wanna read.

[Gravlen]

The Portland Protest Shooter's Death Looks More and More Like Excessive Force—but Trump Keeps Bragging About It

Investigators said this week that Reinoehl—pursued for fatally shooting Aaron "Jay" Danielson during a confrontation at an August 29 protest in Portland—had a loaded handgun when local law enforcement serving on the U.S. Marshals Pacific Northwest Violent Offender Task Force killed him on September 3. But the gun was still in Reinoehl's front pants pocket as police fired more than 30 bullets at him.

"The new information follows initial reports from investigators [that] the federal fugitive task force involved in shooting Reinoehl gave conflicting statements," reports ABC News.

One member of the task force claimed that Reinoehl pointed a gun at them. Another said that didn't happen, but Reinoehl was reaching for a gun when they shot him. A U.S. Marshal's Office press release claimed Reinoehl "produced a firearm, threatening the lives of law enforcement officers."

This week, Thurston County Sheriff's Lt. Ray Brady said that Reinoehl's hand may have been on a gun or may have been merely "near" the gun.

At a Tuesday press conference, investigators said they still do not know if the gun in Reinoehl's pocket on the night of his death was the same gun used to kill Danielson a few nights prior.

Almost two dozen witnesses to Reinoehl's subsequent death say task force members never identified themselves or warned Reinoehl before opening fire on him, though Sheriff Brady disputed this on Tuesday.

Nathaniel Dingess, who lived nearby, told The Oregonian in September that he "saw Reinoehl walk toward his car holding a cellphone in his hand when two unmarked law enforcement vehicles converged outside the complex [and] began firing at Reinoehl." After initially shooting, they told Reinoehl to halt and then resumed shooting, Dingess said, adding that he never saw Reinoehl reach for a gun.

The New York Times talked with 22 people who had been nearby when Reinoehl was killed, and only one recalled the task force members saying anything before they starting shooting:

Mr. Louis…some 140 feet from Mr. Reinoehl, also said the police opened fire immediately, without giving any warnings—as did Mr. Smith and Mr. Cutler.

"There was no, 'Get out of the car!' There was no, 'Stop!' There was no nothing. They just got out of the car and started shooting," Mr. Louis said.

Mr. Smith described it similarly: "There was no yelling. There was no screaming. There was no altercation. It was just straight to gunshots."

Of the five eyewitnesses, none saw Reinoehl holding or reaching for a gun.

Despite the questions surrounding the officers conduct, Trump has repeatedly bragged about this operation—and even described it as "retribution."

Many unanswered questions linger after that killing.

[Gravlen]

Police Are Cutting Ties With Domestic Violence Programs That Support Black Lives Matter

So if you just mention that police violence is a thing, your funding will be cut and the sensitive police departments will retaliate against victims of violence by refusing to assist them in finding domestic violence programs and shelters.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

"Disproportionate" would be anything more than necessary to defend oneself from imminent harm.

If someone punched you, for instance, but you didn't think to draw your gun until they were walking away, you've missed your chance to shoot them in "self-defense" since walking away, they pose no more risk to you than a completely innocent person does.

"But they did it once, that means they might do it again if I don't neutralize the threat" ... uh-uh. Tomorrow is not "imminent".

The President, the current government and their supporters are immediate threats to my future and my democratic rights. No need to explain the concept of retribution to me. I stand by what I said - you people hold extremely naive and silly opinions.

You stand by ... my description of shooting someone for spraying mace as "disproportionate" ... as being a "silly opinion".

Well that's terribly bold of you.

If you said what you really mean, it would be something like "if a Trump supporter sprays me I will kill him" and then you and I could discuss whether that is ethical or legal.

[Chan Island]

Police Are Cutting Ties With Domestic Violence Programs That Support Black Lives Matter

So if you just mention that police violence is a thing, your funding will be cut and the sensitive police departments will retaliate against victims of violence by refusing to assist them in finding domestic violence programs and shelters.

It's stuff like this as well as the shootings that make it look more and more like there's an overmighty law enforcement that believes it can get away with anything in dire need of massive reform.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Police Are Cutting Ties With Domestic Violence Programs That Support Black Lives Matter

So if you just mention that police violence is a thing, your funding will be cut and the sensitive police departments will retaliate against victims of violence by refusing to assist them in finding domestic violence programs and shelters.

Horrible. Particularly that the local government took the side of police and also withdrew support for the centers.

$25,000 worth. I wouldn't be surprised if those police somehow take possession of $25,000 of new gear.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Police Are Cutting Ties With Domestic Violence Programs That Support Black Lives Matter

So if you just mention that police violence is a thing, your funding will be cut and the sensitive police departments will retaliate against victims of violence by refusing to assist them in finding domestic violence programs and shelters.

It's stuff like this as well as the shootings that make it look more and more like there's an overmighty law enforcement that believes it can get away with anything in dire need of massive reform.

Or at least, that the bad apples aren't always beat cops. They're station commanders, and enablers in government.

[Gravlen]

Police Are Cutting Ties With Domestic Violence Programs That Support Black Lives Matter

So if you just mention that police violence is a thing, your funding will be cut and the sensitive police departments will retaliate against victims of violence by refusing to assist them in finding domestic violence programs and shelters.

Horrible. Particularly that the local government took the side of police and also withdrew support for the centers.

$25,000 worth. I wouldn't be surprised if those police somehow take possession of $25,000 of new gear.

"Defund the Domestic Violence Programs" is an unexpected policy slogan.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Horrible. Particularly that the local government took the side of police and also withdrew support for the centers.

$25,000 worth. I wouldn't be surprised if those police somehow take possession of $25,000 of new gear.

"Defund the Domestic Violence Programs" is an unexpected policy slogan.

If police-on-duty only had a Duty to Aid they wouldn't be able to do this. They could be prosecuted right away instead of waiting until the situation arises that a person is beaten or threatened in their home, there are no other shelter places available, and police refuse to take them to an Embrace shelter. Then if the person is beaten again or killed, THEN there's a case against police. And not even an easy one.

This might sound silly in context, but I really question the wisdom of Black Lives Matter making heavy use of the color black! It frightens people, and that doesn't make them racist because it frightened people when it was the color of anarchism and BLM did not yet exist.

[Cordel One]

This thread runs rampant with those lacking the intellectual capacity to converse with an individual as enlightened as yourself. It is with great displeasure that I must inform you these plebeians most likely do not have the mental capacity to comprehend Rick and Morty, and as such they are not worth your time.

Don't look at it as necessarily a mental capacity thing. This forum is too used to low-tier posts from people who think they're way too smart and way too funny, so you get things like Rick and Morty jokes without a punchline (it's a feat to make fun of a show that relies on epic bacon humor but end out coming below even that). Keep up the 20 posts a day and maybe you'll post something people wanna read.

As opposed to such masterfully crafted posts as yours, a rare occurrence that leaves the intellectual mind craving more. If only great philosphers such as Korouse were to grace this browsergame forum with their prescence more often.

[The Lone Alliance]

Police Are Cutting Ties With Domestic Violence Programs That Support Black Lives Matter

So if you just mention that police violence is a thing, your funding will be cut and the sensitive police departments will retaliate against victims of violence by refusing to assist them in finding domestic violence programs and shelters.

Horrible. Particularly that the local government took the side of police and also withdrew support for the centers.

$25,000 worth. I wouldn't be surprised if those police somehow take possession of $25,000 of new gear.

Considering the vast amount of money a lot of BLM groups have gotten a good counter would be to donate the 25,000 themselves, or maybe a donation drive by supporters of BLM, would be a good PR move.

[Telconi]

Police Are Cutting Ties With Domestic Violence Programs That Support Black Lives Matter

So if you just mention that police violence is a thing, your funding will be cut and the sensitive police departments will retaliate against victims of violence by refusing to assist them in finding domestic violence programs and shelters.

Horrible. Particularly that the local government took the side of police and also withdrew support for the centers.

$25,000 worth. I wouldn't be surprised if those police somehow take possession of $25,000 of new gear.

Who did you expect them to take the side of, if not themselves?

[Kowani]

Florida Sheriff fires two officers who forced a mentally ill woman to give birth in her cell on her own.


I have no comments here. There's nothing to say.
Just.
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[Senkaku]

Horrible. Particularly that the local government took the side of police and also withdrew support for the centers.

$25,000 worth. I wouldn't be surprised if those police somehow take possession of $25,000 of new gear.

Who did you expect them to take the side of, if. Ot themselves?

idk why it's crazy that people would be surprised that men and women who profess to be public servants dedicated to protecting their communities would be willing to cut ties with organizations aiding domestic violence victims just because those organizations may have said something critical of their policies or history? like... yeah, in a world where cops were actually interested in protecting the citizenry, I would expect them to say "well, they're free to criticize us, but we still believe in their mission"? wtf Tel lmao

[Telconi]

Who did you expect them to take the side of, if. Ot themselves?

idk why it's crazy that people would be surprised that men and women who profess to be public servants dedicated to protecting their communities would be willing to cut ties with organizations aiding domestic violence victims just because those organizations may have said something critical of their policies or history? like... yeah, in a world where cops were actually interested in protecting the citizenry, I would expect them to say "well, they're free to criticize us, but we still believe in their mission"? wtf Tel lmao

Naivety is always surprising.

[Senkaku]

idk why it's crazy that people would be surprised that men and women who profess to be public servants dedicated to protecting their communities would be willing to cut ties with organizations aiding domestic violence victims just because those organizations may have said something critical of their policies or history? like... yeah, in a world where cops were actually interested in protecting the citizenry, I would expect them to say "well, they're free to criticize us, but we still believe in their mission"? wtf Tel lmao

Naivety is always surprising.

...is it? I feel like it isn't, and you just wanted to make a post sneering at people who were upset that cops did a bad thing, even though it's pretty much not up for debate that they did in fact do a bad thing

[Telconi]

Naivety is always surprising.

...is it? I feel like it isn't, and you just wanted to make a post sneering at people who were upset that cops did a bad thing, even though it's pretty much not up for debate that they did in fact do a bad thing

If you feel things that have no basis in reality, that's on you.

[Vassenor]

Remember, domestic violence is rampant among cops.

[Gravlen]

Horrible. Particularly that the local government took the side of police and also withdrew support for the centers.

$25,000 worth. I wouldn't be surprised if those police somehow take possession of $25,000 of new gear.

Considering the vast amount of money a lot of BLM groups have gotten a good counter would be to donate the 25,000 themselves, or maybe a donation drive by supporters of BLM, would be a good PR move.

The Domestic Violence shelter took your idea and ran with it. A Gofundme has been set up and has reached $60,000 as of now.

[The Lone Alliance]

Considering the vast amount of money a lot of BLM groups have gotten a good counter would be to donate the 25,000 themselves, or maybe a donation drive by supporters of BLM, would be a good PR move.

The Domestic Violence shelter took your idea and ran with it. A Gofundme has been set up and has reached $60,000 as of now.

I love it when a good idea is made use of. Hell they actually made better.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Horrible. Particularly that the local government took the side of police and also withdrew support for the centers.

$25,000 worth. I wouldn't be surprised if those police somehow take possession of $25,000 of new gear.

Who did you expect them to take the side of, if not themselves?

Excuse me? I don't expect local government to take either side. Why should they?

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Considering the vast amount of money a lot of BLM groups have gotten a good counter would be to donate the 25,000 themselves, or maybe a donation drive by supporters of BLM, would be a good PR move.

The Domestic Violence shelter took your idea and ran with it. A Gofundme has been set up and has reached $60,000 as of now.

Excellent. Outspend the Police!

(not really I know, still it's good to hear)

[Gravlen]

Breonna Taylor update: Attorney General D. Cameron admits he never recommended murder or manslaughter charges to the Grand Jury.

Breonna Taylor update:
The grand jury was not presented any charges other than the three Wanton Endangerment charges against Detective Hankison. Questions were asked about additional charges and the grand jury was told there would be none because the prosecutors didn't feel they could make them stick. The grand jury didn’t agree certain actions were justified, nor did it decide the indictment should be the only charges in the Breonna Taylor case. The grand jury was not given the opportunity to deliberate on those charges.

[Gravlen]

George Floyd update:

Judge drops third-degree murder charge against former officer Derek Chauvin in George Floyd's death, but second-degree murder charge remains

Cahill's ruling states the jury should decide if the state of Minnesota has proven the guilt of the former officers, writing in his summary that the state has met the burden of probable cause in the charges against Thao, Lane and Kueng.

The exception was the third-degree murder charge against Chauvin. Cahill wrote the charge can "be sustained only in situations in which the defendant's actions were 'eminently dangerous to other persons' and were not specifically directed at the particular person whose death occurred."
But the evidence presented by the state does not show that Chauvin's actions were "eminently dangerous" to anyone but Floyd, the ruling says.

CNN senior legal analyst Laura Coates explained the third-degree murder charge was "odd" to begin with, saying it "wouldn't have stuck."

"Third-degree in Minnesota is meant to be someone firing a gun into a crowd with no specific target or driving down the wrong side of the road," Coates said. "You mean to harm or know that you could harm someone, but you don't have a particular person in mind or a personal vendetta."